To be livid with work- I’ve been moved dept and given pay cut

[TaylorNift]

With no notice -as of next week they want me gone

no improvement plan or disciplinaries (but new manager)

My family circumstances (4 kids) have been challenging the last year which they’ve been accommodating with - they’ve said a move would be better for them/me as I have have children and the hours their will better support my needs.

I do NOT want to work there. I’m shaking and so angry the way this was done. I was completely side swiped.
can anyone advise?

Hmmmm what have you done to indicate you're not happy with the hours? I mean this respectfully but there's two sides...

I'd also suggest speaking to ACAS which is a free helpline and they can give you some advice.

As you put your distaste for the company in capital letters I also suggest you start looking for a new job asap as resentment towards your employer will be sensed and won't help you.

Very difficult for them to just reduce your pay. Find your contract of employment and look at it. What does it say? Is it specific with role/team on it or is it generic. Is there a clause that says they can ask you to undertake other duties if business need etc
If you've been doing your current role for some period of time then you should be consulted with re the move. Ask for a meeting with HR and say that you want to have a proper consultation in this proposed move

Probably discrimination- talk to ACAS for advice.

Hmmm I don't think they can give you a pay cut, more so if salaried rather than hourly + contracted hours, however look at your contract and ACAS.

It's a bit unclear what has happened. Have they reduced your salary/ hourly rate of pay.

Or just reduced your hours?

How challenging have your childcare circumstances been?

Have there been lots of absences?

Leaving aside the discrimination angle - I don't think it's legal for an employer to unilaterally decide to change your job role and hours, but it will all hinge on what your contract says.

If it says "your role is team admin assistant and you will work 9-5, Monday to Friday" that is a very different scenario to a contract that says "you will work a minimum of 12 hours and maximum of 35 supporting business needs".

But then you get into the whole thing of how long you've been there, and whether it's an unwritten contract based on standard practice.

You need legal advice, ACAS is a good starting point.

I was told there was to be a restructure

I was told given your family circumstances we think a move to this dept would best suit you

by the way there’s a pay cut

same hours

So they recommended you move to another dpt. What did you respond? You don't need to accept it. You can choose to be made redundant if your current position is closing

there will be a great deal more to this

but it will be like drawing blood from a stone trying to get a clear picture from this op i suspect

Right so if it's a restructure then are they saying your role is redundant and you are being offered an alternative ?
As I said speak to HR and ask them to be clear is this a redundancy and redeploy?

Get it in writing to those words and it can certainly be construed as discrimination and illegal re reduction in salary with no consultation period regardless of restructure/redundancies etc. Please watch that they don't also change your contract for the move. I would go straight for an employment lawyer myself as ACAS are good for info but you need to move swiftly. I would also start sorting your CV, Linked in network and maybe touching base with a few headhunters. Also as its so imminent check out the company policies on things and get copies printed or at least saved somewhere that you can access away from work - I wouldn't email to self as that leaves a trail on work email which could be construed as misuse but I would look at maybe saving in a cloud location which whilst still traceable maybe less so especially if you are a bit tech savvy. I know most work places with any sense don't allow usb drives these days.

I am assuming UK job btw

https://www.citizensadvice.org.uk/work/changes-to-employment-contracts-overview/

Check and see whether your contract has a variation clause in it that covers pay. If it doesn't or, even if it does, you tell your employer that you don't agree to the change.

The website I've linked tells you how you should handle this, but I'd definitely recommend speaking with ACAS on 0300 123 1100.

As others have said, speak to ACAS. But you say that they have been accommodating with your challenging family circumstances. Isn't there a risk that they could stop accommodating you, which could leave you without a job?

How long have you worked there?

You need to get this formally in writing

And then contact acas

Is your role disappearing?

Sorry I am at work trying not to cry

No my colleague who also has children has been there 18 months
ive been with the business on and off for 20 years. In this role for 5 years.

Are you a permanent employee with at least two years' service at the same company? This will inform where you go from here. If so, it sounds like there should have been a consultation with you prior to the change taking place, due to the impact on your income. Most places put a salary protection clause in their organisational change policy for a given period, which the consultation period should allow for. Check your contract to ensure there are no flexibility clauses in it, essentially saying you'll work wherever they tell you to, at whatever compensation.

Yes

Thank you for the links
i really appreciate all the help

@TaylorNift please look at @PfishFood ’s post. Please check your contract for a variation clause. Don’t agree to anything and don’t resign. Get this checked out. It doesn’t sound right but we don’t have all the facts.

1. Check your contract for variation/ flexibility clause (such as "you may be required to undertake work in any department at reimbursement equal to your current salary")
2. Refer to your company's organisational change policy if they have one. Look for salary protection clauses.
3. Compare the process outlined in their policy with the one they're actually following (or not).
4. Contact ACAS for advice once in possession of all the facts above.

Check your contract and then speak to your Union if you have one or ACAS.
Nobody can properly advise you on here without all the information.
Also, while I am sure most of us have done it don't MN at work, if you get caught it might not help (unless you are on a break or something)