To NOT support England ???

[Shaketherombooga]

I’m not English. I have lived in England for a very long time. I do not support the England football team, I frequently support their opposition!

Colleague has taken the England loss hard, and said ‘ I bet you’re glad they lost’ - I replied that I was essentially a neutral but thought Spain deserved the win.

Hes gone off in a big old rant about how if I live here I should be supporting England teams etc.
I think he should have a wee lie down and chill out!

YABU - you SHOULD support the team of a country you’ve made a life in - even if you are from a former colony of that country

YANBU - of course you don’t have to support a national team that’s not yours

Funny that they would support Spain. Conveniently forgetting Spain beat up Catalans and preventing independence..

Bullshit. Most English don't mind and we don't care about the English team being so diverse. It shows how welcoming we are.

I didn't question how 'divers' your background was?

You're entirely not wrong about being under no obligations to support anyone other than your home country. Plenty of of ppl do, however, support the country they live in or are only a few generations into living here (anyone see that INCREDIBLE video from Edgebaston during the India vs Packistan cricket match? Literally the best thing I've seen in terms of wholesome crowd fun from this Euros) but at some point they feel British or English alongside their ancestral history - this is their home as much as mine or anyone elses & I bloody love this country for that. But they don't have to & neither do you, that's fine.

The guy behind me in the pub last night? Croatian. But he was as passionate about the match as I was.

The issue with you is you. You're not impartial in the least & are taking an unpleasant amount joy from others sadness & that's just not a nice characteristic. Being smug is near top of my list for gross behaviour, it's just horrible. Doesn't matter if you were English doing it about other countries either.

Anyone taking pleasure from others misery, sneering & mocking, isn't a good person imo. Gentle ribbing between the UK nations is fine, but in the past few years it's become something else & it's plain nasty.

Obvs none of the above applies to Ronaldo, I will revel in every tear shed.

You have just stated categorically (as if anyone cares) that England played badly, they got to the final how could they have played badly, it is clear from that contradictory comment you don’t know much about football.

Did that sound witty in your wee head?

Another bad loser 😂😂

Scotland lost though?

It’s not like the other countries didn’t enter, they did and they got knocked out much sooner than England.

They then became utterly obsessed with our team and whether or not it won the final if England are losers what does that make teams knocked out weeks ago?

Of course OP is Irish and of course we don't want England to win anything ?

It's not xenophobia, it's not due to your colonising ways (which aren't in the past, get out of our county, thanks)

It's the unbelievable smugness, the little englander mentality, the fact that the women's team actually won last year yet the men's mediocrity is celebrated.

But most of all it's the It's coming Home song.

AntnDecs We're on the Ball was much better.

It’s deliberately supporting our opponents that people oppose, not that you don’t actively support us.

But surely you can see from the thread how some people feel they're 'owed' support? That's exactly the kind of attitude that switches the rest of us off. I always started the matches supporting England but by roughly half time I switched because the commentators were so insufferable. It's not a dislike of English people, rather the OTT coverage of the football team.

They did play badly. That’s why the England supporters wanted Southgate sacked a few weeks ago. They were very, very lucky to get to the final with that quality of play. The luck mostly came from referee decisions going their way even when they were blatantly diving.

You say it is your country but quite a few in NI would disagree. Are you going to ignore that fact?

And for anyone that hasn't seen it - English ppl, men & women, girls & boys on tenterhooks & then feeling pure elation at the final successful penalty in the semis. Wanna bet OP wouldn't be smug & sneering in their faces like she was to Dave?

https://twitter.com/HarjapBhangal/status/1809659744950288488?t=F5yfyNDMwi8JzXCKJK10fw&s=19

"Perhaps take the time to peruse the previous comments which explains in detail why people might not support England. HTH."

@DanielGault perhaps take the time to read the post you're replying to and explain where I said that it matters who supports who?
Your attitude absolutely stinks and you're so blinded by your own prejudice that you're seeing things that aren't there. HTH pet.

I remember supporting Scotland in the 1974 World Cup. England hadn't qualified so Scotland it was, despite being English with an Irish mother. You're riddled with prejudice OP

Actually they played pretty well yesterday hence why it took ages for Spain to score. I think they should be happy with that performance.

Where are you from, OP?

What the fuck are you on about? HTH pet loveen.

@Shaketherombooga I'm English through and through and actively hoped they wouldn't make it as far as they did.

I just can't be doing with all the 'footballs coming home' crap - no it isn't. And it won't until they're less shit. And even if they eventually become less shit I still won't care, and still won't want them to win.

I went to bed before 8pm last night with my takeaway kebab, put my phone on silent and banned anyone in the house from talking to me about the result because I. Just. Don't. Care.

So yeah your colleague is being unreasonable. I think you've been remarkably polite. I wouldn't have been!

Awaits the horrible comments (which I also won't care about)

Yet if we discussed Ireland’s many faults no doubt you would go crying to the mods!

They couldn’t have got the the final if they played that badly, it’s just nonsense that it is all luck and that they don’t have interesting young players, just rubbish, said by folk that is really just sour grapes.

In football terms, go nuts! You'll be here all night though.

oh and it was the diving/decisions and also the luck of the draw in not getting any bigger teams to play really until the semi final.

@EllaVoday that was meant to be more lighthearted than it sounded reading it back as opposed to trying to insulting. However I do think your comment was really unnecessary and childish.