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Kid's being allowed to go to school late in the morning

229 replies

OoodlesofNoodles · 14/07/2024 19:05

Local schools to me are allowing children to go in at 10am tomorrow.

What do we all think about this? I'm on the fence, schools are shouting about absence/lateness/taking them out for holidays but on the other hand the kids may not see this again for a long time. My sisters kids are upset because both parents can't start work late so they have to go to school at usual time, it's unfair to put parents on the spot with this as well.

YABU - It's fine for schools to do this.
YANBU - I don't agree with it.

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Reugny · 14/07/2024 19:32

Holidaaaaay · 14/07/2024 19:11

It's a piss take. Next time they complain about my child having a medical appointment in school time I'll be reminding them of this.

Why is your school complaining about your kid having a medical appointment?

Your child shouldn't be having so many unless they have a disability.

Giannetta · 14/07/2024 19:33

The teachers' own children will be in the same position as your own. It's an hour in the last week of term. Don't add to their to do list by making an issue of it.

Ponoka7 · 14/07/2024 19:34

AngelDelightButNotStrawberry · 14/07/2024 19:13

It’s ridiculous, it’s one late evening. So some kids might be a bit tired, they’ll get over it.

The teachers gave to deal with it and the rest of the class, also. Plus there'll be parents driving over the limit.
I can remember Torvill and Dean's 1984 winter Olympic performance, a lot of us came in late the next day, everyone just got on with it.

Covetthee · 14/07/2024 19:34

Julyshouldbesunny · 14/07/2024 19:10

It's history in the making. Aren't your dc watching it??

Hardly… they were in the finals last time as well.

And they have won it before (58 years ago)

Nice for younger fans to be able to enjoy it though, whatever happens, I hope they do wim because the excitement of the kids will be lovely to see tomorrow at school

MuddlingThrough1724 · 14/07/2024 19:35

Next time school send a message about attendance at school, and in particular being on time and stating that being "tired" is not an excuse to be late or absent, I'll remind them of tomorrow. I'm more annoyed that our school told the kids they could come in late before the parents knew, and so the children were immediately pestering for a late start, and obviously don't understand parents work schedules and childcare arrangements don't just shift to accomodate a last minute decision by the school.

itsgettingweird · 14/07/2024 19:35

It's better that parents get up and get them in an hour late than not at all!

cardibach · 14/07/2024 19:36

CedarFence · 14/07/2024 19:08

So numerous hospital wards, surgeries, fire stations, schools, banks, etc will be under staffed / unable to function until after 10
because suddenly millions of parents have childcare responsibilities.

Why will the schools giving an option to go in late do this?
I mean, I think it’s nuts for a game, but it’s an option. It’ll just be for kids with a parent who doesn’t work or who has already taken leave. The rest will go in as normal.

Greenlittecat · 14/07/2024 19:36

I think it's a nice gesture.

You don't need to use it if you don't want to , but the option is there if you do!

Schools can't ever seem to win at the moment.

cardibach · 14/07/2024 19:37

Julyshouldbesunny · 14/07/2024 19:10

It's history in the making. Aren't your dc watching it??

I don’t think you know what history is. It’s a game.

HcbSS · 14/07/2024 19:37

Nope, sorry. If you stay up late you suck up your tiredness the next day.

Ploughmans · 14/07/2024 19:39

It’s not a big deal. The head at our school will be in at normal time and doing an assembly/ supervising in the hall until 10. Children can come in any time from normal start time until 10 - as can the teachers. I’m sorry but it’s pathetic getting so worked up about this.

OoodlesofNoodles · 14/07/2024 19:40

Yes it's optional here.

I didn't think about the fact it will get children to school who otherwise might not have gone in, fair point.

I just think schools can't go on saying how important attendance/time keeping is then announce this, it's giving the wrong impression in my opinion.

I'm enjoying reading everyone's views though.

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parkrun500club · 14/07/2024 19:41

Julyshouldbesunny · 14/07/2024 19:10

It's history in the making. Aren't your dc watching it??

What hyperbole.

BestZebbie · 14/07/2024 19:42

I can see why schools have done it (for pragmatic "at least they'll be in for half the day" reasons), but it unnecessarily puts parents in an awkward position with their child if they need to drop off at the usual time in order to go to work themselves, especially if they are forbidding their child to stay up to the end of the game to watch it for that reason (or any other). It also privileges children who /whose families care about football over ones that don't.
I also note that schools sad-facing about the "broken attendance contract" are really not helping their own optics here...

parkrun500club · 14/07/2024 19:43

People wouldn't be as tired if it started a bit earlier. I really can't see why they couldn't have had a 7pm kick-off in Germany, so 6pm here. It's nothing to do with primetime TV - people would watch it whenever it was on, within reason. If it goes to penalties (vanishingly unlikely, but still) it won't be over until midnight over there.

And yes, it's sport. It isn't history and there's certainly no requirement for all kids to watch it! Only if they actually want to!

A1ia · 14/07/2024 19:44

I work in a school who have made a decision to allow children to enter up until 9.30am without receiving a late mark. As a staff member, obviously I will be in the building from my usual time of 8am and our breakfast club provision will also be available as normal from 8am. It is mildly annoying, to be honest, as it means that the first half hour will likely be disrupted by children arriving at different times - it cannot be used for anything 'whole class based' or core curriculum based. However, I recognise that it is likely accepting the fact that many children will be staying up late and there will sleep in a bit longer than normal; rather than their parents keeping them off for the entire day, they might well be more encouraged to send them in this way, which is ultimately for the best.

MuddlingThrough1724 · 14/07/2024 19:44

Julyshouldbesunny · 14/07/2024 19:10

It's history in the making. Aren't your dc watching it??

Mine certainly won't as its not appropriate for them to stay up that late and quite frankly the adults in this house won't be awake that late either. I think people who care about football forget that in reality they are possibly in the minority because there are whole swathes of people who really couldn't care less about football. 🤷🏼‍♀️

Greenlittecat · 14/07/2024 19:44

OoodlesofNoodles · 14/07/2024 19:40

Yes it's optional here.

I didn't think about the fact it will get children to school who otherwise might not have gone in, fair point.

I just think schools can't go on saying how important attendance/time keeping is then announce this, it's giving the wrong impression in my opinion.

I'm enjoying reading everyone's views though.

The attendance/ time keeping pressure doesn't come from the school (although they enforce it, idk If that makes sense)

It comes from the government/ LA putting pressure on them for having good stats.

I agree that it's mixed messages but unless the school puts out a mass policy of "it's ok to be late if you've had a busy weekend/ they're tired/ you're late because you overslept" then they have to stick to the school timings. I think the whole system needs overhauling tbh.

Covidwoes · 14/07/2024 19:47

@OoodlesofNoodles you do know schools aren't directly responsible for messages about lateness etc. It's all driven by the local authority and government. Schools have to be shitty about it, as we'd be breaking the rules otherwise! I don't understand why people don't realise this.

thisfilmisboring123 · 14/07/2024 19:48

Oh honestly. What miserable replies.

It’s optional, if you’re not watching it or don’t care, great just go in at normal time then.
Surely it’s just a minor inconvenience for teachers to the start of the day.

How could anyone have a problem with this?

OhHelloMiss · 14/07/2024 19:50

History in the making 😂

Aren't kids tired already as it's nearly the end of school year?

Julyshouldbesunny · 14/07/2024 19:52

What a load of flatliners... My adult dc still talk about important games they watched as dc.....
Your poor dc..

DoAClassicCamel · 14/07/2024 19:56

Your sister’s children will not be the only ones going in at the regular time, most likely they will be the majority.
If I was their mother I’d just tell them that it’s business as usual and I couldn’t care less what other parents are doing.

Cinocino · 14/07/2024 20:00

For god sake I don’t even like football or support England but things like this make you realise how much of a big bunch of moaners some people are!
Your sister can’t start work late BIG DEAL! The kids go to school as normal for one hour, it’s not really any more or less unfair than kids who are always there earlier for breakfast club.
Any excuse to be miserable.

neverbeenskiing · 14/07/2024 20:08

Well, our Head isn't authorising lateness tomorrow and we've had lots of complaints from parents, so the previous poster who said schools can't win was right.