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Kid's being allowed to go to school late in the morning

229 replies

OoodlesofNoodles · 14/07/2024 19:05

Local schools to me are allowing children to go in at 10am tomorrow.

What do we all think about this? I'm on the fence, schools are shouting about absence/lateness/taking them out for holidays but on the other hand the kids may not see this again for a long time. My sisters kids are upset because both parents can't start work late so they have to go to school at usual time, it's unfair to put parents on the spot with this as well.

YABU - It's fine for schools to do this.
YANBU - I don't agree with it.

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brrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr · 14/07/2024 22:53

Boeing acquired part of the Rockwell International Corporation, specifically the space & defence bits, which included the part which built the Shuttle.

Hark the Herald.

Greenlittecat · 14/07/2024 22:58

brrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr · 14/07/2024 22:53

Boeing acquired part of the Rockwell International Corporation, specifically the space & defence bits, which included the part which built the Shuttle.

Hark the Herald.

Ooooh I see!

Thanks to the Herald

socialdilemmawhattodo · 14/07/2024 23:13

thisfilmisboring123 · 14/07/2024 20:22

Why are some posters pretending they don’t know that men’s football is much more popular than women’s

Wembley sells out for England Women's games. At least that team wins, and I assume the DV stats don't rocket.

Munter · 14/07/2024 23:16

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Jellybeanz456 · 14/07/2024 23:16

They do it as they would rather have kids in 90mins later than off all day!

socialdilemmawhattodo · 14/07/2024 23:22

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Sadly I think you are ill informed. I know of female players on lower leagues who are delighted to go and support the ( winning) England football team. But buttons? I wouldn't go to a football match, rugby match, golf tournament, even if it was free. I have no interest. So those who are there, who have paid for their tickets are real fans.

Tumblingjungleofchaos · 14/07/2024 23:25

Julyshouldbesunny · 14/07/2024 19:10

It's history in the making. Aren't your dc watching it??

Well, this aged well ... Grin

Oblomov24 · 14/07/2024 23:27

I don't think it's right either, and we love football!

CassandraWebb · 14/07/2024 23:28

I think it sends an awful message.

PregnantWithHorrors · 15/07/2024 07:14

DrCoconut · 14/07/2024 21:34

@WimbyAce absolutely. I fancy going to a particular gig later this year and taking my DC to stay with their cousin while I'm there. We'd travel back late on the Sunday or even early Monday. I bet school wouldn't authorise a 10am start. They'd say suck it up and get in.

If you want to take your kids in an hour late at the same frequency as the England men make major finals, and tell school it was because of a gig, you clearly can. Nothing is practically stopping you. There aren't going to be any consequences flowing from it, unless you're going to drip feed that you're on an attendance plan.

Bretonbabe · 15/07/2024 17:48

ARichtGoodDram · 14/07/2024 19:10

It’s nothing to do with schools supporting the football and all about them trying to encourage people who have a late night not to just give the kids the day off tomorrow.

For the sake of their stats, which Ofsted can cane them for, they’d rather have 50 kids come in a bit late than 30-odd just having the whole day off.

This

ilovegranny · 15/07/2024 18:11

God, there are some miserable people on here. It’s a nice gesture, even if many can’t take advantage of it. I doubt any child will lose their Oxbridge place as a result.

noosmummy12 · 15/07/2024 18:29

Tbf I could have done with this this morning as my toddler was up all night so we only got to sleep at 4am! An extra hour would have at least made me feel less like Hagrids arsehole

ToffeePennie · 15/07/2024 18:35

I personally think it was a really shitty idea. Half a dozen year 5 and 6s decided to take advantage and “bunk off” despite being walked to school by parents. They had clearly waited for mum/dad to leave then promptly turned around and walked to the park, where they were playing hooky.
It boils my piss because my kids aren’t allowed to come in late if they’ve been performing in a production, or doing dance exams, or riding BMX trials. They’re not allowed to be late because they have been seeing elderly relatives the day before and the drive home has totally knackered them out. They’re not allowed to swan in 2 hours late if they’ve been at a late night competition, where they have reached the finale, but because the finale isn’t going ahead till after midnight, they can no longer compete because of school.
But yes, let’s give them all 2 hours to watch the football! Because that’s “history” and “patriotism” whereas all the other examples I have given are only good for the child and in some cases for their future.
Its bloody stupid

ARichtGoodDram · 15/07/2024 18:42

The point is that children can be late any day. However, loads of late marks just gets the school shit from Ofsted. So schools, understandably, decided - knowing kids more kids than usual would be late or not show - to try and alleviate that.

People pissed off should be pissed off at Ofsted. They’re the ones that would have punished schools for it.

umar123 · 15/07/2024 19:11

All of this shenanigans just because of a football match🤣

PregnantWithHorrors · 15/07/2024 19:21

ToffeePennie · 15/07/2024 18:35

I personally think it was a really shitty idea. Half a dozen year 5 and 6s decided to take advantage and “bunk off” despite being walked to school by parents. They had clearly waited for mum/dad to leave then promptly turned around and walked to the park, where they were playing hooky.
It boils my piss because my kids aren’t allowed to come in late if they’ve been performing in a production, or doing dance exams, or riding BMX trials. They’re not allowed to be late because they have been seeing elderly relatives the day before and the drive home has totally knackered them out. They’re not allowed to swan in 2 hours late if they’ve been at a late night competition, where they have reached the finale, but because the finale isn’t going ahead till after midnight, they can no longer compete because of school.
But yes, let’s give them all 2 hours to watch the football! Because that’s “history” and “patriotism” whereas all the other examples I have given are only good for the child and in some cases for their future.
Its bloody stupid

There've been a number of claims on the various threads that kids can't be late in for X other reason. But they can. If you take your DC in an hour or two late for any of those reasons once every 3 years, there's going to be sod all in the way of meaningful consequences, unless you're already on an attendance plan or similar. You absolutely have that option.

ToffeePennie · 15/07/2024 19:37

PregnantWithHorrors · 15/07/2024 19:21

There've been a number of claims on the various threads that kids can't be late in for X other reason. But they can. If you take your DC in an hour or two late for any of those reasons once every 3 years, there's going to be sod all in the way of meaningful consequences, unless you're already on an attendance plan or similar. You absolutely have that option.

Sadly not in our school. Consequences are always a fine, 2 times being late and you’re fined. Directly from school not council

GreyhoundLurcher · 15/07/2024 19:42

This is crazy - just attend on time. What is going on.............

Sharptonguedwoman · 15/07/2024 19:43

Julyshouldbesunny · 14/07/2024 19:10

It's history in the making. Aren't your dc watching it??

It’s football. Yawn.

PregnantWithHorrors · 15/07/2024 19:47

ToffeePennie · 15/07/2024 19:37

Sadly not in our school. Consequences are always a fine, 2 times being late and you’re fined. Directly from school not council

Sorry just to clarify, you get a fine for coming in an hour late once every 3 years?

ToffeePennie · 15/07/2024 19:53

PregnantWithHorrors · 15/07/2024 19:47

Sorry just to clarify, you get a fine for coming in an hour late once every 3 years?

Not quite they run it per half term, so if your kids are late 3 times or more each half term you get fined. You also get a fine if they are late 5 times over a full term period.

PregnantWithHorrors · 15/07/2024 20:07

ToffeePennie · 15/07/2024 19:53

Not quite they run it per half term, so if your kids are late 3 times or more each half term you get fined. You also get a fine if they are late 5 times over a full term period.

Ah I see. I was going to say, assuming you're in England (other home nations are less strict full stop) there's no way the legislation allows for them to do that for a one off.

AllstarFacilier · 15/07/2024 20:24

I’m a teacher and we didn’t start late today. In one of my classes I had 60% of students in, and in another class I had 43% of students in. Mostly boys missing, all with random ailments that I imagine will be better tomorrow. I do think it’s better to start later if needed and ensure no one is over the limit driving kids to school and to give kids a later start if needed for this one off rather than just missing the whole day. Though I don’t know how many would just think that with a 10am start, they may as well have the day off. Either way, I’d expect buses to be on as normal and for students to be able to arrive at the normal time if they don’t want to come in late.

pollymere · 16/07/2024 12:10

It's a soft start not a mandatory late one. It just means your child won't be marked in late if they get there before 10am. When I've worked in primary they usually encourage the children to be on time anyway and it's the rare few that aren't in by about nine anyway. It's useful to do this to stop kids being called in sick.