Donald trump!!

[Filltheglass]

Just nearly got assasinated!!!

Every teenager worth their salt has played that mind game/ethical connundrum.
It was a commonplace discussion on ethics at our school in the 70s, nothing remotely interesting or novel.

The neck on Farage (and Republicans ) saying rhetoric from liberals and the left led to attack on Trump.

Are they taking the piss ? Does he seriously want us to believe Trump and Farage are just as guilty of this nasty, dehumanising talk? (I was in America in 2016 and listened to Trump live talking about Hilary Clinton, I've watched Farage humilate on a personal level, the president of the EU council in the EU parliment.

I don't condone voilence, but blaming Biden for some fucking crackpot kid is absolute shite.

Its like blaming Kemi Badenoch for the murder of that poor trans girl, you can argue it, but the bottom line it was an evil pyschopath who did it.

www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-13056253/Rishi-Sunak-trans-row-PMQs-jibe-Keir-Starmer-trans-Esther-Brianna-Ghey.html

Still the greatest threat of terrorism are Islamists as per usual for the last 60 years or more.
But you're correct you dont get more far right than religious fundamentalists.
"Islamist terrorism is the most significant terrorist threat to the UK by volume."
www.mi5.gov.uk/what-we-do/countering-terrorism
And globally of course. We dont pay attention anymore to the the endless terrorist attacks around the world particularly in the ME, where fundamentalists butcher anyone and everone, for their religion

Do you genuinely think fundamentalists of any stripe can be reasoned with?

And you know who he voted for, how? I thought our vote was protected. I can register as anything I want and I know a lot of people who will register the opposite of what they regularly vote. They do that so they can vote in the oppositions primary and vote for the least favorable candidate. Then they vote their party in the generals. You do know that no one holds a gun to your head and makes you vote the way you register, right?

There are also a LOT of Republicans that despise Trump, just as there are Democrats who adore him. Ditto for the different sexual, ethic and racial groups.

It's also been said he is anti-fa and bragged about it before the FBI shut down his SM. They should just leave it up, but why do that when the rumors are so much more fun than whatever the truth is?

There are plenty of right-wing and left-wing extremists to fill a stadium, and no one can claim that "their side" would never do such a thing. Because they have, multiples of multiple times.
And some people feed that hatred, division and mistrust from both sides of the political aisle. Both sides are as bad as the other, because neither side has any reason to act decently. If there was a viable third party, behaviors would change, quickly.

Gosh, I'm so glad that you've decided to respond to a random post of mine from 20 pages ago to tell us all that. Great job, really important and fascinating post.

Why, at this stage, is there no viable third party? It seems so strange to have such a large population with a binary choice?

I’m not saying there wasn’t a flag flying I’m saying there wasn’t a flag flying above him that would have been in that frame. I think the picture has been manipulated for maximum impact.

As we found out from the fiasco over the PoW altered family photo the press agencies check photos for digital manipulation and won’t use them if they’ve been anything other than minimally altered.

A more likely explanation a lucky angle from an experienced photographer who probably took a huge number of photos. Having stood behind a press pack at events they spend a lot of time rehearsing shots so he may have set up to get a shot of Trump coming down the steps in good circumstances and so was in the right place at the right time.
We aren’t seeing the hundreds (or even thousands)of other photos the various photographers took and discarded.

Democrats who adore Trump? How does that work? Nevertheless I'd say that Trump pretty much has his own cult which is separate from any political affiliation.

Really wonder if this will have any effect on gun control over there too.

Nothing ever does. Guns are ingrained in US culture and tradition. I've never been able to understand how freely guns are available to the most unhinged people.

''No parties'' was the original preference of the Founding Fathers, ironically.

Don't half wonder if they had a point tbh.

Sounds suspiciously like dictatorship though doesn't it! I think parties are a good thing in general, obviously they come with downsides (incessant bitching) but you have people keeping the other side in check to some extent.

Good question. I'll have a think about it.

RIP Corey Comperatore, who was at the rally with his wife and daughter.

"Didn't sound like a real gun," says random netizen who has no experience in firearms and has only heard gunshots in movies.

That person was reacting in the heat of the moment & thank goodness most of us DONT have experience in firearms😊

I see this repeated frequently. Why is it always the left who are expected to learn & modify their values & opinions to placate & persuade the right?

There comes a point in time where people just don't give a fuck about hurting the feelings of others who think asylum seekers should be shot or drowned in the channel, that migrants should be caged and deported, or the poor/sick/disabled should be forced into the fields or left to starve.

Everyone's entitled to their opinion, but they're not entitled to anyone's respect or time, especially when, more often than not, their views are based on misinformation or outright lies that's easily disproved.

The republicans/tories started this culture war & those on the right gladly took up the cause, to moan & whinge that they now have to deal with the consequences is hypocrisy of an almost biblical nature.

Sorry, "heat of the moment"? I seriously doubt that person was actually there at the rally. Most of us are sitting on our asses behind computer screens thousands of miles away.

calm down

I wish I could explain it, but this article does it better. I just like the fact that I am not alone in wanting "Door #3" as a choice.
Why America doesn’t have the third party it wants (thehill.com)

@Shakeoffyourchains I see this repeated frequently. Why is it always the left who are expected to learn & modify their values & opinions to placate & persuade the right?

I'm pretty sure that it's both sides of the political spectrum who expect the other side to learn and modify their values.

The republicans/tories started this culture war & those on the right gladly took up the cause,

This point is absolutely false. It was the "woke" who started dumping their nonsense online from about 2010 onwards (after they finally discovered what the internet was). There was a very understandable backlash from normal people in response to that.

dapsnotplimsolls

There wasn't an inauguration in 2020.

You're splitting hairs. The poster clearly meant 2021 after Biden was elected in 2020.

Emmanuelll

*Democrats who adore Trump? How does that work? Nevertheless I'd say that Trump pretty much has his own cult which is separate from any political affiliation."

This is true. Not every Republican is a fan of Trump.