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Filltheglass · 13/07/2024 23:44

Just nearly got assasinated!!!

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icelolly12 · 14/07/2024 11:18

wateringcanface · 14/07/2024 11:06

Or perhaps the shooter got exactly what he wanted. He was reportedly a republican, potentially wanted to martyr trump, bring on civil war and die for the cause. Really not a far fetched concept with the amount of die hard right wingers in America who say they'd die for the cause.

Doubt he was actually a Republican, he probably registered as one so he could get advance information about where the rallies were etc so he could do his planning

MasterShardlake · 14/07/2024 11:20

MasterShardlake · 14/07/2024 11:07

Just seen the BBC video of the immediate aftermath of the shooting, Trump says he has to put his shoes on.

I need to know why he'd taken them off. No doubt someone will find a conspiracy theory that helps to explain this.

solved!

Donald trump!!
Lampzade · 14/07/2024 11:21

wateringcanface · 14/07/2024 11:06

Or perhaps the shooter got exactly what he wanted. He was reportedly a republican, potentially wanted to martyr trump, bring on civil war and die for the cause. Really not a far fetched concept with the amount of die hard right wingers in America who say they'd die for the cause.

This is an interesting view. It wouldn’t t surprise me if there was an element of truth in this.

wateringcanface · 14/07/2024 11:22

nomoretoriesforme · 14/07/2024 11:11

@wateringcanface The shooter made donations to democrats in the past as reported by CNN

He made a singular small donation, but was registered as a republican. Mixed messages, they have reportedly raided his home last few hours so more will come out about his political affiliation most likely. Its far more likely in my opinion he's a republican who hates trump, or a republican who is wlling to die for the cause of creating a martyr. Unless incredibly stupid, a democrat would know murdering the leader of the opposing party would backfire...but we shall see

Another2Cats · 14/07/2024 11:22

MasterShardlake · 14/07/2024 11:07

Just seen the BBC video of the immediate aftermath of the shooting, Trump says he has to put his shoes on.

I need to know why he'd taken them off. No doubt someone will find a conspiracy theory that helps to explain this.

If you look at some photos taken from behind the stage it shows the secret service staff lying on top of Trump who is on the ground.

You can see one of his shoes has come off and is lying on the ground nearby. I would guess that happened when they piled on top of him.

Perhaps his other shoe came off, if it did, at some point after that.

Goldenbear · 14/07/2024 11:23

icelolly12 · 14/07/2024 11:18

Doubt he was actually a Republican, he probably registered as one so he could get advance information about where the rallies were etc so he could do his planning

i suppose that is not known yet.

Lampzade · 14/07/2024 11:23

wateringcanface · 14/07/2024 11:22

He made a singular small donation, but was registered as a republican. Mixed messages, they have reportedly raided his home last few hours so more will come out about his political affiliation most likely. Its far more likely in my opinion he's a republican who hates trump, or a republican who is wlling to die for the cause of creating a martyr. Unless incredibly stupid, a democrat would know murdering the leader of the opposing party would backfire...but we shall see

I think the shooter is probably a Republican tbh

wizzbitt · 14/07/2024 11:25

ChardonnaysBeastlyCat
Thank you for your comments. You’re really insightful x

pam290358 · 14/07/2024 11:25

AInightingale · 14/07/2024 11:17

You can see a guy to the right of Trump (left on footage) bending down over someone and trying to assist them - was this one of the people who was fatally injured or critically injured?

Later footage showed that person along with two others tending to someone on the floor, so it’s likely it was. Very sad all round.

Emmanuelll · 14/07/2024 11:26

Dymaxion · 14/07/2024 11:17

We currently have no idea and may never know the real motivation of the shooter.

What really concerns me is the possibility of copycat attacks, all those saying they wish the shooter had been successful, would you be OK if another lone shooter decided to take a pot shot at any other politician ? Everybody on both sides needs to condemn violence, and yes, that includes Trump.

Yes, this is the sort of thing that can spiral out of control and build momentum.

This era of populist politicians need to end and the world will be safer when it does.

FOJN · 14/07/2024 11:26

Emmanuelll · 14/07/2024 11:02

Of course you do. It’s funny how people who write posts like this are always so balanced and impartial and need to convince others that listening to fascists makes you unbiased.

On another point, I think Trump has gone beyond the point where people merely disagree with his policies. A lot of commentary at the moment is focussed on how dangerous it will be for the whole world when (not if) he pulls US support for Ukraine.

The US is in the biggest mess ever. I can only hope something happens to restore rationality and safety.

I prefer to think that I need to listen to all sides in order to counter arguments I disagree with. If you have never listened to Farage then you are not qualified to call him a fascist. If you believe he is a fascist because certain sections of the media told you so then you are still not qualified because you have outsourced your thinking.

It's frightening that you think people you don't like should never be heard. There is a name for people who like to silence political opponents.

wateringcanface · 14/07/2024 11:27

@Lampzade me too, I'd accept being proved wrong and that it was an extremely idiotic democrat if that's what is found, but until then it seems more likely that isn't the case

Jumpingthruhoops · 14/07/2024 11:27

PerfectYear321 · 14/07/2024 00:44

Exactly. I know who's comment is stupid

You clearly just hate Trump. Get back in your box!

HebburnPokemon · 14/07/2024 11:27

Disappointed to hear this when I woke up this morning. Very, very disappointing.

GuinnessBird · 14/07/2024 11:30

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FOJN · 14/07/2024 11:32

TwigletsAndRadishes · 14/07/2024 11:14

Could you explain your comment and the one you quoted to me please? I feel like I am reading some sort of coded message and I have literally no scoobie what it means.

Sorry I can't help. I've looked back over my posts and can't see any direct responses to you.

Jumpingthruhoops · 14/07/2024 11:32

I find it so alarming that people simultaneously call Trump fascist/ dictator while wanting to literally have him shot for his political opinions...

And so-called 'Democrats' too. Honestly, you couldn't make it up...

TwigletsAndRadishes · 14/07/2024 11:32

Emmanuelll · 14/07/2024 11:13

The leave voters got what they wanted. Higher food prices, no change in immigration (according to them) and er, blue passports.

Higher food prices are not because of Brexit. I live half the year in France and the food is far more expensive there. It was always more expensive but it's become increasingly so and they have their own COL crisis just like us. Petrol is more expensive too. And I can find a better and wider range of EU imported food goods in the UK than I can in France, even post Brexit. Everyone is paying more for food, mainly because of Ukraine. USA, Canada, Europe, everywhere.

A return to blue passports was never a reason to vote for Brexit, merely a welcome symbolic part of the overall result.

No change in immigration is another matter entirely though, as is the shameful wasted opportunity to harness all the benefits Brexit could and should have brought us. I still consider the removal of FOM to be a benefit in itself though, so it's all good, just not as good as it might have been.

Although when you add HK and Ukraine into the mix, they were sizeable one-off asylum waves that added to the overall figures shooting up massively for a year or two, which was already on the way down by the time Sunak left office. So it will be relatively easy for Starmer to make it look like he's reduced immigration pretty quickly without actually doing much at all.

Tumblingjungleofchaos · 14/07/2024 11:34

MrsBennetsPoorNerves · 14/07/2024 01:59

I abhor Donald Trump and everything he stands for, but the people who are wishing that the shooter had been a better aim, or implying that he somehow deserved it, need to take a long hard look at themselves.

The success of our political system depends entirely on the quality of the candidates that put themselves forward for election. If we allow our political culture to be poisoned by violence and intimidation, many high calibre individuals will simply choose not to put themselves at risk. And we will all be much poorer for the lack of choice.

There will always be people whose views we find abhorrent. Our job is to argue against them and defeat them at the ballot box. I don't think anyone should be condoning violence, even jokingly. As a society, we get the politicians that we deserve, and incidents like this drag all of us down.

My first instinct was "dammit why did he miss" but on reflection I agree with Mrs Bennett.

Democracy can't be allowed to descend into violence. I just wish the American people were smarter and didn't vote for a convicted sexual abuser of women.

Tumblingjungleofchaos · 14/07/2024 11:35

@Louisaaa knife crime is hardly "rampant" here. Calm down. Nowhere near the level of your 30,000+ mass shootings a year.

LordPercyPercy · 14/07/2024 11:36

Disappointed to hear this when I woke up this morning. Very, very disappointing.

Careful what you wish for, next time it might be a politician you like.

birchtreeoflife · 14/07/2024 11:36

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Agree.

LordPercyPercy · 14/07/2024 11:37

Democracy can't be allowed to descend into violence. I just wish the American people were smarter and didn't vote for a convicted sexual abuser of women.

I'm not a Trump (or a Biden) supporter but Biden's background is hardly great either. There's the stuff with his daughter and the hugely creepy on-camera behaviour that carefully doesn't get mentioned.

birchtreeoflife · 14/07/2024 11:38

Emmanuelll · 14/07/2024 10:49

No doubt some Americans voted for Obama because he was black, and some refused to vote for him for the same reason.

This is such a bizarre thing to say Hmm

It’s not bizarre at all. It is the truth, and was reported back then.

Jumpingthruhoops · 14/07/2024 11:39

hippopotty · 14/07/2024 01:44

I don't understand the shooter's motive?? You would think a right wing gun totter would go for Biden... So someone who wants Biden to win??

Why are you assuming the gun-toter was right wing?

The rhetoric of 'left wing = good, right wing = bad' that the media wants you to believe was put to bed years ago.

100% some left-wing crazy did this!

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