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Help rid me of this weird woman - please!

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Justcouldnotbitemytongue · 10/07/2024 15:26

Apologies this is a bit long 😬. DH & I live in a v remote & rural part of the country, we took early retirement & moved here a few years back. It’s a lovely place & we’re happy & settled. The few (distant) neighbours we have are all nice. Friendly but not too friendly IYSWIM. DH & I go out now & again to the only pub round here & it’s always a good night.

A couple of years ago Zoe & Dan (not their real names) moved here, about five miles from us. He’s ok but I struggle with her. We’re roughly the same age but we have zero in common. She’s very right wing - pro fox hunting/blood sports, hates migrants & people on benefits. She’s not the sharpest pencil in the box & boasts that she’s never read a book in her life. Also believes weird conspiracy theories she reads on Facebook. Can drive but won’t so Dan has to take her everywhere. Consequently she’s stuck in the house a lot as he works part time. We’re chalk & cheese.

She’s started to text me & ask if they can join us in the pub. Hard to say no really - it’s a pub. Plus I know she hasn’t really got anyone else round here & I do (did!) feel a bit sorry for her. Because of the geography there’s a very small pool of potential friends.

Last night was a disaster - worst ever by a mile. She seemed a bit manic/hyper when we got there. I wondered if she was on something but she just kept saying she was excited as she hadn’t been out of the house for ages. At the best of times it’s hard to have an adult conversation with her but last night was terrible. Another couple who were there left as soon as decently possible. The DH’s talk about sport & get on pretty well but it’s impossible to talk as a four which would help dilute her. She just interrupts all the time, talks over them & paws at my arm to get my attention.

I’m pretty patient, & always put forward a reasonable view to balance her almost fascist opinions. Try also to not look at my watch too much. Everything I said last night she just laughed at weirdly & loudly. I asked her what was so funny & she just kept laughing - almost hysterically. It was so embarrassing. Like being back at junior school.

Later a woman was in the pub & sat behind me. Zoe was hyper - again pawing me & saying “look, look!! That’s a man isn’t it? They’re trans aren’t they? Go on look, look now!“ I snapped (v rare) & said a bit too loudly & sharply that she was being really rude & to stop it. She literally put on a pet lip.

Fast forward to the end of the night & I said we were heading home. Why? She asked. Because it’s nearly midnight & I live there I replied. Why? She again asked. Why do I live at home or why is it midnight? Why she just repeated “why”. On a loop. Whenever I said anything she just said why. I snapped again & said FFS Zoe you’re acting like a fucking toddler. Pet lip again.

Said goodnights, she said she’d had a lovely time 🙄. Meanwhile we headed in opposite directions. Me seething.

Congratulations if you’ve got this far btw.

Anyway - I couldn’t stand another night like that. So do I say something or do I just keep dodging her & her invites until she gets the message. It’s really spoilt the nice times we used to have there but I am not wasting another evening of my life listening to her spout that rubbish. The trouble is we’re a small community & do rely on each other. I’d also rather not fall out with anyone but how do I get shot of her without doing that?? I absolutely do not want to be friends. She maybe has one other person locally who messages her occasionally but that’s it. She’s NC with two of her three children (or maybe they’re NC with her) if that’s relevant.

So come on - please give me a steer, should I start dodging her messages & making excuses or should I just tell her I don’t enjoy her company?

You are not being unreasonable - start dodging.
You are being unreasonable- just tell her straight.

OP posts:
Justcouldnotbitemytongue · 10/07/2024 17:44

Thanks so much for the really helpful comments - am so glad it’s not just me who thinks it was weird. And yes I did just need to vent - especially as my DH was engrossed in the football & did not see or hear a thing! I feel much relieved after chewing about this for many hours so thank you again for your support.

Following the consensus of advice I am going to be vague going forward. Very vague. If that doesn’t work then I’ll tell her straight - hoping it doesn’t add to her drama. Thanks to those who gave some v useful ideas of what to say.

To answer a few queries no she doesn’t work - relies on her DH. I don’t think he (like my DH) noticed a thing last night but how the fek they missed it all I don’t know?? We exchanged numbers a year or so ago when their heating went off & we picked up a part for them. It’s been fine mostly & useful. They’ve collected parcels for us & vice versa. As for the trans woman - I actually have no idea as I didn’t turn around. It was Zoe who said there was a trans woman. I think she’s definitely suffering from General Arsehole disorder! Thank you PP for that! Finally I am taking the advice and will in future identify as a fox! On benefits

OP posts:
Youcannevertelltownfromtown · 10/07/2024 17:45

I agree with pp who said she sounds unwell. You clearly don’t want to be friends with her so honestly I don’t think it matters if you tell her why or just ghost her. Both are probably going to hurt her feelings and the end result will be the same. I think you’re overthinking it. You’re not related or even close friends, you’ve no obligation to be in contact with this woman. After that experience, you don’t owe her an explanation. I really don’t understand why you stayed in their company for so long as it was. I would have definitely had some kind of “emergency” or remembered I left the cooker on something.

Hubcapdiamondstarhalo · 10/07/2024 17:47

IDoNotIntroduceTheLog · 10/07/2024 17:38

PARKLIFE

😂Brilliant! (and thanks for the earworm...)

Grammarnut · 10/07/2024 17:48

Should have added this is one type of benefit scrounger I dislike: employers, businesses etc who expect the state to top up their low wages with working tax credit (unless they are a start up). This I deplore. Not sure how you feel about benefits for the rich, OP, but there it is.

Grammarnut · 10/07/2024 17:49

It is possible they didn't see it because their perception of Zoe is different.

EmmaOvary · 10/07/2024 17:55

Grammarnut · 10/07/2024 17:48

Should have added this is one type of benefit scrounger I dislike: employers, businesses etc who expect the state to top up their low wages with working tax credit (unless they are a start up). This I deplore. Not sure how you feel about benefits for the rich, OP, but there it is.

Good grief, are you still wittering on about your opinions? You have spectacularly missed the point of the thread.

RivkaTheBold · 10/07/2024 17:57

Grammarnut · 10/07/2024 17:34

Oh dear. We wouldn't get on either. I am a clause 4 Bennite socialist, which means I am also a Brexiteer (it goes with the territory) and back nationalisation of utilities and some transport. I support fox hunting (hunting in general, in fact, and I'm not that keen on fox hunting but hunting for food and keeping down vermin are both high on my list of useful things - and my late DH used to hunt when he was a small farmer, hares, rabbits - and to protect all you must support all, my DS like shooting (air rifles at tin cans, so nothing too lethal) and has taught his DS and DD). I think immigration needs controlling because the country I live in cannot take the weight of infrastructure needed for a population that has nearly doubled in 40 years (only 14% countryside now, according to some) and also unlimited immigration that does not support the local culture (women's rights, workers' rights, freedom of religion, rule of law and not of men, that people wear what they like, etc and don't get raped because they look like prostitutes) will destroy that culture. I am also GC, which means though I won't be pointing out loudly a TiM, I will object to him being in the ladies' loo. I don't hate people on benefits - which tends to mean one-parent families in my experience - but do think they need targetting better, e.g. all parents, working or not to get support for childcare which they can use for nurseries or SAHM, as they choose.
I don't know what sort of pencil I might be, but I suspect we might struggle to have a conversation in the pub. Or maybe not - we could discuss other things: gardening, food, Richard III (interest of mine), travel, women's rights maybe?
The point I am making is that she might not be as weird as you imagine. The other point is that you live in a rural area and people are your resource. You probably need to try to get on with her - she might share more views with your rural neighbours than you think - esp. re hunting, which tends to be a rural thing; foxes are not welcome in hen houses, nor seagulls among the lamb. They may all think you are weird. Just a thought.

Sit down, Nigel. This isn't about you.

Ayebutnaw · 10/07/2024 17:57

I fear some are spectacularly missing a pisstake.

SerafinasGoose · 10/07/2024 17:57

Threewheeler1 · 10/07/2024 17:09

I shouldn't laugh but the way you described your evening was very entertaining OP 😆
It sounds so fecking awful!
You're not being unreasonable at all. If I was you I wouldn't want to get saddled there. Not sure how you avoid it though - up to the point someone really annoys me, I'm absolutely rubbish at that stuff. Beyond that point, well, still a bit rubbish...
I recently got collared doing the front garden by a passing woman.
She was chatting away. 'That's nice' I thought for the first 5 minutes...
Over 1 hour later I'm still stood in my gardening gloves, wondering what on earth she's talking about and if she's ever going to leave.
So much weird 'woo' and massive oversharing about really strange things. She was quite intense, lots of staring and meaningful pauses... bit unsettling when you just want to do a bit of mowing and you need a wee but someone's giving themselves a therapy session in your flowerbed 😶
In the end DH noticed that I was stuck and made up some crap about someone ringing me. I legged it inside just as she was saying that she'd come back another time!
Anyway, thought I'd dodged a bit of unwanted future contact there, but she's been putting notes through the door 😩
Worst bit is she knows where I live so I'm going to have to do my best MN hiding 😕😬

FFS don't answer the front door.

What is the world coming to ....

BMW6 · 10/07/2024 17:59

I think I'd wait to see if she asks to meet again, and then my response would be No Thanks.

If she asked why not I'd simply say I don't want to.

If pushed further I'd say We don't click. We have nothing in common. Or press the nuclear button with I don't enjoy your company I'm afraid.

You can be polite, but Frank. It's not rude IMO.

IncompleteSenten · 10/07/2024 17:59

GinForBreakfast · 10/07/2024 17:06

I cannot bear people touching me to get my attention or to emphasise a point. I have no filter and usually end up shouting "don't touch me!" so I feel your pain.

TBH I would block her number.

Same here. My husband is a bugger for it. Especially when he's had a few. Constant tapping.

In the end I snap "stop bloody hitting me" and apparently that makes me the rude one.

Tappers. Hate them.

HolyPeaches · 10/07/2024 18:00

Grow some balls, message her that you will not be continuing this friendship and do not wish to socialise further, block her number and don’t engage with her in person.

Granted, easier said than done. But honesty is the best policy and she sounds like a fucking fruit loop. Get rid ASAP.

Irridescantshimmmer · 10/07/2024 18:03

Looks like she's latched onto you.

Sounds like she struggles to communicate so interesting or intelligent conversations are like the wind, right over her head. It's also a shame for her because she is lonely, hence her excitement in the pub.

MyPetLip · 10/07/2024 18:04

I can't believe what an evening you had!

Village life, trans person, far right leanings, part-time dosser, blimey.

SashaPicklepops · 10/07/2024 18:04

She sounds like she possibly has no social skills, whether that's because she was never really taught or could be she is nd in someway, it's a hard one as I have a SIL like this, and it's exhausting tbh. I think I would see her as little as possible, without hurting anyone's feelings, I have to do this myself with SIL. Good luck op. X

Sagarmatha · 10/07/2024 18:05

Cocaine and alcohol??

SerafinasGoose · 10/07/2024 18:06

MyPetLip · 10/07/2024 18:04

I can't believe what an evening you had!

Village life, trans person, far right leanings, part-time dosser, blimey.

My village sounds so boring by comparison.

This one's like something out of Little Britain.

Grammarnut · 10/07/2024 18:08

GalileoHumpkins · 10/07/2024 17:37

Jesus love, it wasn't about you!
OP, just ghost her, she's all flavours of weird.

I know it wasn't about me. I live in a city. It's just that the OP is making assumptions about the rest of her neighbours, who are distantly friendly. They may hold similar views to Zoe. But there is no need to be friends with Zoe, obv.

Gonners · 10/07/2024 18:08

SerafinasGoose · 10/07/2024 18:06

My village sounds so boring by comparison.

This one's like something out of Little Britain.

😃It's more like The League of Gentlemen where I live.

SDTGisAnEvilWolefGenius · 10/07/2024 18:13

Mirabai · 10/07/2024 16:53

This is the problem with the country really.

What, exactly, is ‘the problem with this country’ @Mirabai? So many different points have been made in this thread - and even just in the OP - so you might want to narrow down your statement, if you want it to make any sense.

Grammarnut · 10/07/2024 18:14

IDoNotIntroduceTheLog · 10/07/2024 17:38

PARKLIFE

? What does PARKLIFE mean?

Grammarnut · 10/07/2024 18:17

KreedKafer · 10/07/2024 17:41

That was a fucking long-winded way of making a moot point.

It was. Got carried away. Not that moot. In rural areas views on hunting are likely to be very different from those of ex-townies. I live in a county with 6 very famous hunts - the views on any sort of hunting are not what your average city dweller would expect to hear.
Views on immigration are also liable to be very different from some urban ideas, though probably not anti, as immigrant workers keep local wages down re fruit picking etc.

ThePerkyDuck · 10/07/2024 18:18

She sounds unhinged and likely to love dramas. I think telling her directly will open an opportunity for her create a big drama out of this. I think ghosting is the best option in this scenario.

PerkyMintDeer · 10/07/2024 18:19

I honestly don't think she's going to "get" you gradually pulling back.

I'm neurodivergent so I guess I like to be told when I'm not picking up on something rather than being strung along.

If this was a guy you'd met online dating or been set up with, would you entertain him any further at the expense of your own comfort/peace of mind? I doubt it.

Unless you fear she's genuinely dangerous/vindictive then I'd advise honesty.
Especially given that she obliviously text you that she had a wonderful evening presumably having no idea that you'd had an awful night because of her.
Next time she asks if she can join you at the pub, or says that she had a great night or tries to initiate a meet up, if it was me, I would say,

"Zoe, I'm sorry but that isn't going to work for me/I felt differently about our last meetup. I feel that we aren't quite on the same wavelength and that it's difficult for me to relax when we socialise together. Moving forward, I'm happy to say hello and have a quick chat in passing but I think I'd be more comfortable just keeping DH and I's pub nights as a time for us to unwind as a couple/don't think a closer friendship would be a good idea, sorry."

I'll probably get a load of "OMG DON'T SEND THIS MESSAGE" replies now from NT people would prefer ghosting or the slowest of fades over months or years but in my experience, ripping the band aid off and avoiding months of awkward drama and seething resentment is worth it.

Any follow ups...broken record, "No, Zoe, that doesn't work for me." "No, we don't need company, thanks." "We'd like some space to enjoy our evening now, thanks." Calm and clear.

mambojambodothetango · 10/07/2024 18:19

You don't need to balance her fascist opinions. You need to set her straight then walk away.

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