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Help rid me of this weird woman - please!

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Justcouldnotbitemytongue · 10/07/2024 15:26

Apologies this is a bit long 😬. DH & I live in a v remote & rural part of the country, we took early retirement & moved here a few years back. It’s a lovely place & we’re happy & settled. The few (distant) neighbours we have are all nice. Friendly but not too friendly IYSWIM. DH & I go out now & again to the only pub round here & it’s always a good night.

A couple of years ago Zoe & Dan (not their real names) moved here, about five miles from us. He’s ok but I struggle with her. We’re roughly the same age but we have zero in common. She’s very right wing - pro fox hunting/blood sports, hates migrants & people on benefits. She’s not the sharpest pencil in the box & boasts that she’s never read a book in her life. Also believes weird conspiracy theories she reads on Facebook. Can drive but won’t so Dan has to take her everywhere. Consequently she’s stuck in the house a lot as he works part time. We’re chalk & cheese.

She’s started to text me & ask if they can join us in the pub. Hard to say no really - it’s a pub. Plus I know she hasn’t really got anyone else round here & I do (did!) feel a bit sorry for her. Because of the geography there’s a very small pool of potential friends.

Last night was a disaster - worst ever by a mile. She seemed a bit manic/hyper when we got there. I wondered if she was on something but she just kept saying she was excited as she hadn’t been out of the house for ages. At the best of times it’s hard to have an adult conversation with her but last night was terrible. Another couple who were there left as soon as decently possible. The DH’s talk about sport & get on pretty well but it’s impossible to talk as a four which would help dilute her. She just interrupts all the time, talks over them & paws at my arm to get my attention.

I’m pretty patient, & always put forward a reasonable view to balance her almost fascist opinions. Try also to not look at my watch too much. Everything I said last night she just laughed at weirdly & loudly. I asked her what was so funny & she just kept laughing - almost hysterically. It was so embarrassing. Like being back at junior school.

Later a woman was in the pub & sat behind me. Zoe was hyper - again pawing me & saying “look, look!! That’s a man isn’t it? They’re trans aren’t they? Go on look, look now!“ I snapped (v rare) & said a bit too loudly & sharply that she was being really rude & to stop it. She literally put on a pet lip.

Fast forward to the end of the night & I said we were heading home. Why? She asked. Because it’s nearly midnight & I live there I replied. Why? She again asked. Why do I live at home or why is it midnight? Why she just repeated “why”. On a loop. Whenever I said anything she just said why. I snapped again & said FFS Zoe you’re acting like a fucking toddler. Pet lip again.

Said goodnights, she said she’d had a lovely time 🙄. Meanwhile we headed in opposite directions. Me seething.

Congratulations if you’ve got this far btw.

Anyway - I couldn’t stand another night like that. So do I say something or do I just keep dodging her & her invites until she gets the message. It’s really spoilt the nice times we used to have there but I am not wasting another evening of my life listening to her spout that rubbish. The trouble is we’re a small community & do rely on each other. I’d also rather not fall out with anyone but how do I get shot of her without doing that?? I absolutely do not want to be friends. She maybe has one other person locally who messages her occasionally but that’s it. She’s NC with two of her three children (or maybe they’re NC with her) if that’s relevant.

So come on - please give me a steer, should I start dodging her messages & making excuses or should I just tell her I don’t enjoy her company?

You are not being unreasonable - start dodging.
You are being unreasonable- just tell her straight.

OP posts:
Elsewhere123 · 10/07/2024 16:06

Grey rock. She sounds manic, could be on steroids, bipolar etc. But not your problem. Remember the MN saying 'No' is a complete sentence .

Thursdaygirl · 10/07/2024 16:06

halfpastten · 10/07/2024 16:04

Zoe is a lot of work and drama so don't add to it by telling her straight. Just be busy, put her off, she'll get the message eventually. Friendships ebb and flow at the best of times. I've had friends/acquaintances who started to be busy and became slow to reply to texts. Got the message, don't hold it against them, maybe their lives changed. It's not a relationship, you don't need a breakup talk, but you know that I think and just needed to let off!

This!

ApolloandDaphne · 10/07/2024 16:08

She sounds awful. I would just not reply to her texts and absolutely do not tell her when you are next going to the pub!

DaughterNo2 · 10/07/2024 16:10

Odd that her DH wouldn’t try and shut her down when she been with this odd behaviour tbh. Slow fade definitely

Citrusandginger · 10/07/2024 16:11

LostTheMarble · 10/07/2024 15:44

Obviously you don’t like her, and with 5 miles between you she’s pretty easy to avoid.

Have to say though, the opening post is hitting almost every MN frothing bingo.

To be fair there's no mention of parking, with or without diagrams or loo brushes.

user1471538283 · 10/07/2024 16:21

She sounds unhinged. Don't respond to her anymore. Your DH can meet up with her DH separately.

If she's not unhinged then she's like these people who rely on others being polite and refuse to accept boundaries. Again don't respond to her.

Awwlookatmybabyspider · 10/07/2024 16:24

Does this Zoey person work herself or is she bunching off her husband’s success. If the answer is the latter then she’s no different morally to all those dole heads that she hates. Also I think she needs educating that even those with jobs are also on Universal credit (another benefit). I absolutely detest ignorance

Allthehorsesintheworld · 10/07/2024 16:24

HungryLittleCrocodile · 10/07/2024 15:39

Yeah, what is a pet lip? Confused

Petulant. Pouting look and sulking.

Could she have bi-polar? I had a friend who could act similarly, especially the laughing inappropriately, getting very excited and hyper in situations that weren’t exciting to anyone else. She had bi-polar and would swing from this to deep depression.
You could just block her number and say your phone broke/ got hacked.

Yousaidwhatagain · 10/07/2024 16:25

It sounds like she has some MH issues. Her repeating herself and behaving manic and hyper sounds like it. Just don't respond to her when she texts .

Cattery · 10/07/2024 16:26

HungryLittleCrocodile · 10/07/2024 15:39

Yeah, what is a pet lip? Confused

Petulant

Treeslovetrees · 10/07/2024 16:27

I’d distance myself and never be free if she asked

azlazee1 · 10/07/2024 16:28

End the friendship. Learn to say no thanks when she calls if she continues with the why why why's tell her the friendship isn't working for you and from now on pub night is a date night with your husband.

sonjadog · 10/07/2024 16:28

I would be very busy and avoid her in the future. I won't say anything, just not be available.

Vroomfondleswaistcoat · 10/07/2024 16:30

Any chance that you or your DH could ask HER DH? 'Sorry to ask, but is Zoe all right, her behaviour on Saturday night was quite bizarre...'

He may, of course, be so used to dealing with it that he's ceased to notice just how odd her behaviour can be. But he's the only one who can tell you whether she's struggling with her mental health.

I live very rurally too, so I know the feeling of having to keep 'in' with everyone. However you absolutely don't have to socialise with them. Make your excuses, be having a 'quiet date night' if they meet you in the pub, and be too busy and unavailable to meet for a while.

DisforDarkChocolate · 10/07/2024 16:30

I don't think you can ghost anyone in a community that small.

Next time she asks say you have plans, if you're in the pub say something like that you're looking forward to an evening with just your husband.

If she turns up you have to tell her that she makes you uncomfortable and then focus back on what you were doing.

Conkersinautumn · 10/07/2024 16:33

If she is struggling with her mental health that's not your responsibility. She behaved appallingly, you tried to steer her to behaving better and she persisted . I'd not have the time to try with her again. Your DH can surely just spend time with the H on their own? Make it clear that you just didn't hit it off/ aren't going to be that close.

samarrange · 10/07/2024 16:34

The trouble is we’re a small community & do rely on each other.

If she's sufficient of an arsehole to be NC with two of her children, I think it's pretty safe to say that she is not a core part of the community support network. For every WhatsApp group she's a member of, there will be another with almost the same name but with "notZoe" appended to it.

I've known a few people like this. The far-right views and susceptibility to conspiracies often go along with the immaturity and neediness. A clinical psychologist friend of mine refers to this as "General Arsehole Disorder" (although not in writing).

Nanny0gg · 10/07/2024 16:35

HungryLittleCrocodile · 10/07/2024 15:39

Yeah, what is a pet lip? Confused

Where you stick your bottom lip out

Babies often do it when upset before the tears come

Nanny0gg · 10/07/2024 16:36

What does her husband do when she behaves like that?

How did he react when you spoke out?

Hankunamatata · 10/07/2024 16:37

What does her dh saying about her behaviour?

Crumbsalive · 10/07/2024 16:38

I'd do the fast fade and know that you have made your feelings clear about the subjects that matter to you.

Ayebutnaw · 10/07/2024 16:39

Quite @LostTheMarble

Meanwhile33 · 10/07/2024 16:40

Everyone else in the neighbourhood has probably refused to spend any time with her already, and she’s now hoping you’ll fill the void. But yes she sounds mentally unwell and also awful so I’d just avoid and say you’re busy / not going out every time she asks.

HelplessSoul · 10/07/2024 16:40

Tell/text her to fuck off, then proceed to block on your phone.

CollyBobble · 10/07/2024 16:40

What are the chances of there being a transgender person in a remote pub?

Why didn't you ask her or her partner what the matter was as from your description she sounded high.