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Help rid me of this weird woman - please!

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Justcouldnotbitemytongue · 10/07/2024 15:26

Apologies this is a bit long 😬. DH & I live in a v remote & rural part of the country, we took early retirement & moved here a few years back. It’s a lovely place & we’re happy & settled. The few (distant) neighbours we have are all nice. Friendly but not too friendly IYSWIM. DH & I go out now & again to the only pub round here & it’s always a good night.

A couple of years ago Zoe & Dan (not their real names) moved here, about five miles from us. He’s ok but I struggle with her. We’re roughly the same age but we have zero in common. She’s very right wing - pro fox hunting/blood sports, hates migrants & people on benefits. She’s not the sharpest pencil in the box & boasts that she’s never read a book in her life. Also believes weird conspiracy theories she reads on Facebook. Can drive but won’t so Dan has to take her everywhere. Consequently she’s stuck in the house a lot as he works part time. We’re chalk & cheese.

She’s started to text me & ask if they can join us in the pub. Hard to say no really - it’s a pub. Plus I know she hasn’t really got anyone else round here & I do (did!) feel a bit sorry for her. Because of the geography there’s a very small pool of potential friends.

Last night was a disaster - worst ever by a mile. She seemed a bit manic/hyper when we got there. I wondered if she was on something but she just kept saying she was excited as she hadn’t been out of the house for ages. At the best of times it’s hard to have an adult conversation with her but last night was terrible. Another couple who were there left as soon as decently possible. The DH’s talk about sport & get on pretty well but it’s impossible to talk as a four which would help dilute her. She just interrupts all the time, talks over them & paws at my arm to get my attention.

I’m pretty patient, & always put forward a reasonable view to balance her almost fascist opinions. Try also to not look at my watch too much. Everything I said last night she just laughed at weirdly & loudly. I asked her what was so funny & she just kept laughing - almost hysterically. It was so embarrassing. Like being back at junior school.

Later a woman was in the pub & sat behind me. Zoe was hyper - again pawing me & saying “look, look!! That’s a man isn’t it? They’re trans aren’t they? Go on look, look now!“ I snapped (v rare) & said a bit too loudly & sharply that she was being really rude & to stop it. She literally put on a pet lip.

Fast forward to the end of the night & I said we were heading home. Why? She asked. Because it’s nearly midnight & I live there I replied. Why? She again asked. Why do I live at home or why is it midnight? Why she just repeated “why”. On a loop. Whenever I said anything she just said why. I snapped again & said FFS Zoe you’re acting like a fucking toddler. Pet lip again.

Said goodnights, she said she’d had a lovely time 🙄. Meanwhile we headed in opposite directions. Me seething.

Congratulations if you’ve got this far btw.

Anyway - I couldn’t stand another night like that. So do I say something or do I just keep dodging her & her invites until she gets the message. It’s really spoilt the nice times we used to have there but I am not wasting another evening of my life listening to her spout that rubbish. The trouble is we’re a small community & do rely on each other. I’d also rather not fall out with anyone but how do I get shot of her without doing that?? I absolutely do not want to be friends. She maybe has one other person locally who messages her occasionally but that’s it. She’s NC with two of her three children (or maybe they’re NC with her) if that’s relevant.

So come on - please give me a steer, should I start dodging her messages & making excuses or should I just tell her I don’t enjoy her company?

You are not being unreasonable - start dodging.
You are being unreasonable- just tell her straight.

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Rosscameasdoody · 10/07/2024 16:41

PurpleChrayn · 10/07/2024 15:37

What is a "pet lip"?

She sounds like an utter lunatic. Just block her and avoid her. You won't be the only one.

A pout.

Greenlittecat · 10/07/2024 16:42

I would just ignore her tbh. She doesn't sound like she's worth the effort it would take to be friends with her.

I'd block her and if you ever bump into her just play it off as getting a new number/ phone buggered/ no signal etc

Pudmyboy · 10/07/2024 16:44

HungryLittleCrocodile · 10/07/2024 15:39

Yeah, what is a pet lip? Confused

A pout, it's short for 'petulant lip' I believe

IncompleteSenten · 10/07/2024 16:44

I'd tell her no thanks any time she wanted to meet up. If she asks why then try to find a gentle way to tell her that she's really too much but if you are put in a corner then it's better to be completely honest, with examples, even though that will make it awkward.

BarHumbugs · 10/07/2024 16:46

I think you need to be blunt with people like that. Tell her you do not share her views and find her to be overbearing, rude and offensive and do not want her to contact you again.

Maraa · 10/07/2024 16:46

This sounds just like someone I know. And shock, two out of her three kids don’t speak to her either. Probably not the same woman, but if it was I’d advise to steer clear and give a wide birth as she is a lunatic

Strawberryicecream88 · 10/07/2024 16:47

The pawing at my arm would really piss me off. She sounds nuts. I don't know what I'd do to be honest but I'd be running a mile

ActualChips · 10/07/2024 16:48

Tell her you're an immigrant. Or identify as a fox.

sleekcat · 10/07/2024 16:48

Make sure you have your phone set up so she can't tell if you've read her messages. Then reply too late, or not at all.
Don't be too patient with her in conversation. Don't hide the fact that you have totally different views to her. I would not be able to sit in a pub with someone like her - maybe she will stop viewing you as a friend if she realises you have nothing in common.

Inamechangedjustforthis · 10/07/2024 16:48

Is she fond of cocaine by any chance?

CatherineofAmazon · 10/07/2024 16:48

I would just tell her straight.
After the way you behaved the last night out I would rather not meet up with you again then ignore.

Chartreux · 10/07/2024 16:49

Avoid her. If you can't, disagree with all her horrible views and talk about things she won't like, e.g. your gay friends, your love for African literature, your view that immigration has done nothing but good for UK culture, Farage is an idiot, etc. And call her out immediately when she starts behaving the way she did last night, don't wait till you've lost patience with her.

LakesideInn · 10/07/2024 16:51

You definitely need to be firm about not meeting up with her - if people see you together they’ll assume you are friends and they will avoid you as they are undoubtedly avoiding her!

Makemydaypunk · 10/07/2024 16:52

LostTheMarble · 10/07/2024 15:44

Obviously you don’t like her, and with 5 miles between you she’s pretty easy to avoid.

Have to say though, the opening post is hitting almost every MN frothing bingo.

I did like in later posts the only trans in the remote and very rural village making a convenient appearance.

pinkyredrose · 10/07/2024 16:52

Maybe she's bipolar?

Mirabai · 10/07/2024 16:53

This is the problem with the country really.

G123456789 · 10/07/2024 16:54

Unfortunately it sounds like she has no social skills and won't pick up on your trying to avoid her. Her husband clearly is used to her behaviour and doesn't consider it odd....is he fairly normal. Because this sounds a bit like me sil and her husband, she is a complete pain and monopolizes conversation to talk about her boring shit, he on the face of it was normal but it became clear fairly quickly that he was an alcoholic perv.

You might just have to bite the bullet and try to get out of it as much as possible, but in a small community that's going to be hard

Screamingabdabz · 10/07/2024 16:54

Just treat her as the entertainment.

BowlOfNoodles · 10/07/2024 16:55

Yeah you've gonna fuck this situation off

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😂😂😂

Brefugee · 10/07/2024 17:01

Don't dodge, don't equivocate: Say "no thank you, i don't want to"
keep saying that.

Vroomfondleswaistcoat · 10/07/2024 17:02

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Of course there is the possibility that it really WAS a woman, just a rather ill-favoured one. I have frequently been mistaken for a man or a transgender woman. I am neither of those things. But I have heard people say behind my back 'is that supposed to be a woman?'

It's not very nice.

DuckbilledSplatterPuff · 10/07/2024 17:04

The "But why" game, the pet lip and the pawing at your arm, means that Zoe wants attention, any attention, good or bad. She won't care if you are a friend figure, or unfortunately, an enemy figure (someone who won't behave as she wants them to behave) - it will be just as interesting to her and both roles provide lots of drama.

I feel sorry for her but the situation could end up being very stressful if you get too involved. Probably Grey rock in this case, I'm afraid.

Trixiefirecracker · 10/07/2024 17:06

‘Pet lip’ short for petulant! I would run a mile! You don’t have to entertain this kind of behaviour, not sure why you feel you do. How does she know when you are down the pub? Slowly ghost would be my advice or just keep making excuses and avoid pub for a bit!