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Reasons you wouldn’t move to US

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Preiu · 10/07/2024 14:08

Dh has been offered a job in the US. The increase in salary would put us into a completely different wealth bracket but I really don’t want to move.

  • fear of home invasion with guns
  • school shooting - guns in general I guess
  • American exceptionalism attitude annoys me
  • Being away from family
  • Not having Europe on doorstep

Can I ask if you have any other reasons

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EconomyClassRockstar · 10/07/2024 22:46

Delatron · 10/07/2024 22:22

Your child is more likely to die from being shot than any other cause of death. That’s your choice for living there. But to say guns are not a day to day reality is really just sticking your head in the sand about it.

This is why nothing changes in
the US and why hundreds of children will continue to die in their classrooms every year. Because none of you appear to give shit.

Hundreds of children don't die in their classrooms each year. What are you talking about?! You think the whole country just puts their kids on the bus each morning and gets on with their day thinking, "Oh well! If my kids get shot at school today, Freedom!"?! What I am saying is I have lived here in the US for almost 20 years and guns are NOT and haven't ever been a day to day reality for me. That is an absolute fact. And this comes, as already stated, from someone who is VERY anti gun, who votes and lobbies anti gun. One school shooting is too many but your hyperbole is absolute nonsense.

greencatbob · 10/07/2024 22:55

America being full of Americans puts me off!

CheeseSandwichRiskAssessment · 10/07/2024 22:55

Violinist64 · 10/07/2024 22:27

It’s interesting that the number one reason that most of us have for not moving to the USA is the gun culture. I have only been close to a real gun once in my life and that was in 1980 in rural France when I was on a French exchange trip. I am very thankful for this. There have been a few people here who have emigrated to the USA and are very happy there, which is great, and it is understandable that you feel very partisan towards your adopted country. However, there is no doubt that violent crimes, especially those involving guns are out of control in the USA. People who have lived there have told me that the news we see is only a fraction of what really goes on there. Even though we know that some states are safer than others, the fact is that it is possible to buy guns at Walmart along with your groceries and ordinary people seem to feel the need to keep at least one gun at home in case of “home invasions.” There appears to be no real desire for proper gun regulation, which is why every time a school shooting occurs “thoughts and prayers” are offered alongside hand wringing. Stereotypes exist for a reason and none of us wishes to send our children to school in the morning wondering if they will return in the afternoon or become yet another statistic in the terrifying gun crime levels. I have met many lovely people from the USA and am pleased to count some of them among my friends. However, nearly all Americans seem to have a blind spot when it comes to guns. It is not only people from the UK who are terrified of the gun culture there, but people from mainland Europe, Australia and New Zealand.

Sorry but a lot of what you say here is just completely wrong.

GreenTeaLikesMe · 10/07/2024 23:17

masomenos · 10/07/2024 14:34

I don’t think it’s the USA that you need to worry about; it’s your own inability to educate yourself that’s going to get in your way.

You don’t need a single reason not to live here beyond “I don’t want to”. Why are you compiling a list?

There are over 350,000,000 people in this country, which is bigger than Europe (by some measures). Many different cultures, language, climates, lifestyles, ethnicities, foods, geographies etc.

Admitting that “guns” and “home invasions” is putting you off is like saying “county lines stabbings” would put you off ever moving to the UK because you have a teenaged son. I can’t believe you’d be able to navigate this country’s media without fainting each morning, if you haven’t figured out the UK’s media yet.

I am British and moved to the east coast over 15 years ago. I was very reluctant to leave my family and I still hate that I’m so far away. I never wanted to move here. I couldn’t care less whether you move or don’t, but your questions and answers are really ridiculous. If you’re at all serious about this move (which it doesn’t sound as if you are), read and travel here and educate yourself. Don’t be so lame.

Charming post. Are you always this delightful?

PidgeonLife · 10/07/2024 23:21

I would love the opportunity to move to America, very jealous!

Violinist64 · 10/07/2024 23:28

@CheeseSandwichRiskAssessment, respectfully, what have I said that is wrong? You only have to read through the thread to see that gun crime is the number one reason why many people would not wish to move to the USA. This is not only the case for British people but for most people in the other developed countries of the world. Unlike most “news” in the USA which is very localised, people in the wider world are far more aware of what goes on in the USA than many American people are of anything outside the USA. Gun crime in the USA is completely out of control. Our one and only school shooting was twenty-eight years ago and we were so shocked and appalled by it that pressure was put on the government of the day to take measures to ensure that such a thing could never happen again. There were already at least thirty-four school shootings in the USA by the end of June this year. These are incontrovertible facts. Yet you still wonder why the rest of the world looks at you shaking our heads. If l am almost completely wrong then so is nearly everyone else on this thread, or is it that we don’t say the things that you want us to say?

AcrossTheOceanMissingHome · 10/07/2024 23:31

Xyz1234567 · 10/07/2024 22:20

I do find some of the comments from US residents on here rather aggressive.

I find some of the comments about the US, from presumably mainly Brits, to be completely ignorant and offensive sooo........

😅

Crazycatlady79 · 10/07/2024 23:32

The accents!

JudyJudeplusOne · 10/07/2024 23:33

Workoutinthepark · 10/07/2024 14:12

Oh and I forgot the frightening healthcare costs and over medicating by doctors

This would be the no1 thing putting me off.

Yesterdayyesterday · 10/07/2024 23:36

For me it would mainly be holiday allowance, the general work to live culture and being away from family. But also guns and general right wing culture, depending on which state you live in (could be better than the UK if you live in a liberal state).

In terms of healthcare if you are a high earner you are likely to have a gold plated policy through work that is far better than what you would get in the UK. Obviously it would be a different story if you didn't have healthcare.

For holidays I also think it's better there as you have amazing national parks. just missing the European city culture.

AcrossTheOceanMissingHome · 10/07/2024 23:37

Crazycatlady79 · 10/07/2024 23:32

The accents!

Because the accents in Britain are all so great aren't they? 🤨

HansHolbein · 10/07/2024 23:37

Guns and heat.

ConsuelaHammock · 10/07/2024 23:38

Guns
Schooling - children carrying door stoppers in their backpack to wedge a door shut ?? expensive college tuition
Abortion laws
The healthcare system
Homelessness - very mentally unwell people on the streets
Poor holidays
Poor sick pay
Poor maternity pay
So far away from Europe
Biden
Trump

ConsuelaHammock · 10/07/2024 23:39

Crazy weather - either too hot or too cold
Earthquakes, tornadoes etc

Topofthemountain · 10/07/2024 23:39

The whole needing to go in an aeroplane would be a major stumbling block for me. 😱

VeryQuaintIrene · 10/07/2024 23:40

Xyz1234567 · 10/07/2024 22:20

I do find some of the comments from US residents on here rather aggressive.

But I am quite shocked by some people's ignorant assumptions about a massive country of which they have very limited experience (as a Brit living and traveling in the US for 30 years I am aware that my experience isn't the whole truth either), so it's understandable, if not commendable.

OonaStubbs · 10/07/2024 23:41

I would love to move to the US. I have relatives over there and I really envy the lifestyle and standard of living that they have.

ToWhitToWhoo · 10/07/2024 23:45

Some of these things depend so much on where one is in the USA. It's as huge and varied as Europe.

I chose not to move to work in the USA when I had the opportunity, because (a) I have a 'pre-existing condition' from childhood, which means that it would be difficult for me to get affordable health insurance'; (b) I have disabilities that prevent me from driving, which would make life very difficult in most parts of the USA. But I know people, who have had good experiences of living and working and raising children there.

BarryCantSwim · 10/07/2024 23:46

Been to the US loads. Generally love it and there have been times I might have considered a move with work. Not saying politics as thats a shitshow globally. I don’t like:

  • guns
  • drugs/poverty extreme in some areas
  • cost and availability if what I consider high quality cheese
  • extreme weather a bit scary (although I also kinda like this too)
  • maybe the driving culture in some places, not everywhere
  • private health insurance as a philosophy
  • cost of uni (although getting bad in UK)
  • the way high school culture is depicted although not real experience
  • tipping is getting out of control

What I love:

  • the people 100%
  • the geography. Variety and scale of it
  • there’s a lot of cool history in a non-EU way
  • food (although expensive to get good stuff)
  • customer service
  • space in homes
  • outdoorsy culture in lots of place
  • dollar bills
  • most of the accent
  • lots of things!
bravefox · 10/07/2024 23:46

It's expensive! I know people focus on big salaries but the cost of most things is substantially higher too.

A very simple example that I looked at on amazing the other day -

*On the UK Amazon lots of high-back boosters on sale in the £40-60 bracket
*On the US Amazon they start at $100 (so £80)

Last time I was in the USA I couldn't believe how much a trip to the grocery store cost Vs the UK

BarryCantSwim · 10/07/2024 23:47

I think work-life balance is also v variable depending on job and location.

Labraradabrador · 10/07/2024 23:50

BarryCantSwim · 10/07/2024 23:47

I think work-life balance is also v variable depending on job and location.

Same as the uk - I worked 80 hour weeks standard in London. My brother in the us never cracks 40 (easy) hours working from home. He also has similar vacation days and excellent health cover / sickness day provision.

BarryCantSwim · 10/07/2024 23:51

Labraradabrador · 10/07/2024 23:50

Same as the uk - I worked 80 hour weeks standard in London. My brother in the us never cracks 40 (easy) hours working from home. He also has similar vacation days and excellent health cover / sickness day provision.

With the difference of course being statutory minimum is at least double in the UK.

CheeseSandwichRiskAssessment · 10/07/2024 23:56

I agree the tipping is out of control, it's starting in the UK though too since covid. Very irritating.

A relatively small thing, but billboards aren't allowed in all the states and some restrict where they can be and which type etc.

I would say wait until after the election OP but may as well work on the assumption Trump will win. Do you want to be close to that ?

PidgeonLife · 10/07/2024 23:56

bravefox · 10/07/2024 23:46

It's expensive! I know people focus on big salaries but the cost of most things is substantially higher too.

A very simple example that I looked at on amazing the other day -

*On the UK Amazon lots of high-back boosters on sale in the £40-60 bracket
*On the US Amazon they start at $100 (so £80)

Last time I was in the USA I couldn't believe how much a trip to the grocery store cost Vs the UK

The top selling high back booster on the USA site is 41.99, decent range of stuff from 40 dollars, through to 60 range and then the higher price ones.

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