Reasons you wouldn’t move to US

[Preiu]

Dh has been offered a job in the US. The increase in salary would put us into a completely different wealth bracket but I really don’t want to move.

• fear of home invasion with guns
• school shooting - guns in general I guess
• American exceptionalism attitude annoys me
• Being away from family
• Not having Europe on doorstep

Can I ask if you have any other reasons

I don’t get all the people saying the food is bad.

There are very cheap food options but there’s also a huge range of very healthy and food quality options. Lots of fresh local produce is available if you live on one of the coasts there are some wonderful seasonal fish and seafood options.

Someone also said all the restaurants look the same. Are you just talking about fast food chains?

The restaurants (not chains) where I am are amazing and varied and the food is a much higher standard that the average UK restaurant. And so many different types of cuisines to choose from.

It’s so bizarre because if you ask Americans they think the food in the UK is terrible too - especially eating out compared to France or Italy, for example.

My stats came from the CDC and they are the official ones. Yours come from an anti-gun lobbying group.

Not such an issue in the North East but they do like to bang on about god, and their church. Etc a LOT .
God bless America and all that, They bring church into work which I find really unprofessional and when one of them starts going on about the bible school they lead, or their church or even wants to pray the Europeans all just go silent and it kind of fizzles out 😅

😬😅 I don't think I ever got food poisoning all the time I lived there nor have my partner or kids when we've gone back for visits. We've also managed to eat healthily while there.

The sheer ignorance on this thread is breathtaking. Y'all have no idea what you're missing.

The tipping still drives me crazy though even after 15 years here

Has anyone mentioned food? It's full of carcinogens, high fructose corn syrup, e-numbers, insects and it's horrifyingly expensive! The conditions they keep the animals in is inhumane and leaves the meat and by products so filthy that they have to wash them in bleach!

Religious fanaticism. If you ever need an abortion and can actually get one in your state you're at risk of being shot by religious fanatics who love telling you have awful Islam is while they treat women worse! Ridiculously high infant and maternal mortality rates. Forced pregnancy and birth even in the cases of rape and incest of children AND when it will result in the death of both the foetus AND mother!

Obviously medical care, education, guns, stupid laws, the total disregard for humanity when money can be made. Slave wages, racism, mass brain washing so these people genuinely believe that their country is the best on Earth!

And another big one... legal child marriage!

The weather: tornadoes; cyclones; hurricanes; tropical storms; temperature extremes. Poorly insulated housing and Trump may end up president again.

It's a shithole, don't bother.

You list ‘accidents’ as the leading cause. So any accident? Involving a gun maybe?

Oh that nasty anti gun lobbying group!
Jesus. This is why I would never live there. People like you excusing the gun situation. That’s why it never changes.

I’d have a lot more respect for you if you said ‘yes the gun situation is shit but it’s complicated and there are other good reasons to live here’ rather than try and defend and downplay it.

Read the thread - most people list guns as the number one reason we don’t want to live there.

What children getting shot in school and you all looking the other way? No thanks.

This.

I can’t read the entire thread right now because my lunch has ended but I do want to say…American healthcare is excellent. It’s readily available extremely competent and your insurance covers 80 to 100%. There are so many negative threads about the NHS from pay to availability to quality. Cleveland Clinic ranked# 2 hospital in the world and international referral center offers same day appointments. SAME DAY. I decided I wanted an elective surgery (not plastic) on January 1. Had first appointment on Jan 12 and surgery on January 31. And even thonitbwas elective part of it was paid for by insurance due to the competent billing department. Also paid time off is a common vacation accrual system in the US…called PTO and you earn paid time off every day you work. The more you work the more you earn. Experienced nurses in the Midwest USA average 50$ per hour and residents (junior doctors) more than that. Connecticut is a lovely green affluent area you will enjoy living in. I have only visited New York. They both are more expensive areas to live in with wage adjustments often provided by employers. As for Biden and Trump yes that’s a concern for all of us.

I wouldn’t even go there on holiday, for all the reasons above.

I see that there's no shortage of crossbows in the UK.

https://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/crime/police-manhunt-kyle-clifford-triple-murder-b2577197.html

What everyone else has said:

Guns
Healthcare
Biden/trump
Food- their food regulation is lax and has so many loopholes, so much food has crap that is banned in almost every country other than US.
Education
Racism- yes it's everywhere but the US is shocking
Lack of welfare- we never know what the future holds. You may be OK but what about your children?
Religion- depending on where you live it's all God bless America
Work- less annual leave
I don't know the truth behind this but I recently learned school children have to pledge alliance to America everyday.

@LifeExperience it is not BS at all.

www.nejm.org/doi/full/10.1056/NEJMc2201761

We moved from London to Chicago 9 years ago and love it. We have a better standard of living and better opportunities. Many of the points made on this thread are the typical stereotypical responses, some true, some not really many exaggerated.

If you feel the way you do based kn this post then you shouldn’t go because you already have a set view of the country and will probably end up being resentful and unhappy. The US is a huge country with over 330 million people and there is no one view or wag it life.

Connecticut has some lovely family friendly suburbs with good schools.

I attached a recent informal poll from one of the Brit Facebook groups in the US and as you can see majority prefer to or plan to stay in the US.

i am in no way saying the US is perfect, far from it but neither is any other country and the US gets disproportional coverage about its issues than any other country.

Good luck with your choice, either way I think you will be fine.

I also disagree with you that the US is ugly but that’s personal preference. There is a lot or variety and different options in the US which I appreciate.

Guns
Trump
School shootings
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Health care
Trump
Evangelist Right
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Completely different approach to social care and poverty
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Trump

We have done it for short periods of time. Back in the day (early 00s) Columbia Univ provided highly subsidised nursery care at a Montessori where all the other parents that weren’t uni were diplomats and rich IT types; subsidised apartment in the Upper West Side; help for getting partners a job; health cover. If we’d stayed until school started, the school you got help to send your child to was the one Barron Trump went to at primary level.

Before we had DC we were in Australia for a while. Less help, mostly accommodation, but still keen to attract uni profs.

The main reason we didn’t stay was our elderly parents back home. The longterm broader reasons were our pensions, schooling, disapproval of their state healthcares and welfare system.

Ohhh it is lovely up there, the schools are great too, I would seriously consider this as long as there was rock solid medical insurance with the job. If you own a home in the UK especially in the SE property prices will be a pleasant surprise.

Guns, trump, healthcare and guns again.

The food

@Preiu for some reason I couldn't attach the poll screenshot I was referring to and had to use another browser with another username.

Here it is.

Are you allowed to work or just your husband?

I think we can all agree Italian food is the best in the world.

I agree about Connecticut and I feel you will mostly get the one dimensional stereotypical responses such as Trump, guns etc with little substance.