Some People In Prison Shouldn’t Be Allowed Visitors.

[Molone]

Tonight I read the horrific story of a baby and his aunt being killed in a drink/driving incident.
Today the driver was sentenced to 17 years. While he will still be allowed to see his family weekly for visits, this poor mother will never hold her baby or see her sister again. What happened to them was horrific.

Why should he be allowed to see his loved ones when he has deprived her of the same? He should be locked up to serve his sentence alone and so should all the other killers of a similar nature.

It's horrific. Aside from his fucking idiocy, why are cars even able to drive so fast??

The maximum speed limit is half what he was doing. It wouldn't have made a jot of difference to this tragedy but it would for many many others.

Fortunately, those who are charged with making decisions on our justice system do so from a point of rationale and logic rather than emotion.

A prisoner with nothing to lose is dangerous both to themselves and those around them.

Horrible looking scumbag and tax payers now have to keep him breathing when he dosent deserve it.
No wonder his wife was leaving him?
I absolutely take my hat off to prison officers who have to deal with people like this in prison.
It can't be much fun being surrounded by the dregs of society everyday.🙄

It isn't good for any machine to be running at its maximum output relentlessly.

Vehicles are sold globally, and speed limits differ geographically.

People drive cars on private land upon which there is no speed limit.

Majority of people are able to drive to the laws of the roads.

He was dangerous to everyone around him even when he DID have something to lose outside of prison! He killed people - you don’t get more dangerous than that! That’s why 17 years and having visitors is too good for him.

One of the saddest things I’ve ever read, cannot even imagine how the mother goes on.
he deserves to rot in hell.

He will be spending hours in a tiny cramped cell he will be told when he can eat/shower/exercise

he will now be known for killing a baby

Don’t worry op he shall be pretty miserable

His family still love him and they will need to see him, his actions are not their fault

What would that actually achieve?

@MartinsSpareCalculator yes, you talk sense

He will get his visits....whether people here agree or not. He will also get all his other privileges inside. It's how it works

Human nature makes you want him To suffer as much as possible and have no privileges whatsoever

but when people have nothing to lose it can make them 10 times worse

it’s like when people are on death row there beyond dangerous because they have nothing to lose

Every person in prison should have the opportunity to work to make themselves a better person. That means human contact, education, and other forms of nurturing the mind and soul. One day, most of these people do rejoin society. I want prison to be a place that heals them, not a place that amplifies their worst tendencies.

Some people are beyond help. Career criminals etc.
Would you feel the same if it happened to one of yours?

I don't know why you are dragging looks into it.

If your father had committed a crime when you were a child would you have been happy to be punished by not being allowed to see him for years... his family didn't commit the crime.. he did

It’s too late. He already has

For anyone saying children shouldn't be allowed to visit parents in prison, tell us you know understand nothing of children, adverse childhood experiences or developmental trauma without telling us you know nothing of children, adverse childhood experiences or developmental trauma...

Interesting take on the subject. So any parent who has been in prison is automatically a shit one and the child would be better off without them?

I wish I hadn't been made to visit my dad in prison. It always scared me. Should be the child's choice though.

Yes

This

I see many kids visiting Dad in prison

All healthy happy kids

Lots of very very normal families....just like you and the rest of mumsnet.

Have to disagree. It's very individual. My friend went to prison when she was 18, her boyfriend was bad news and unfortunately she was scared of him and fell into his lifestyle too, she ended up going to prison for a year. She's never been back since, we're in our 30s now and she has a good job, a DD and is a great parent.

My own father was in prison for much of my childhood and he was a shit parent and a shit person so some definitely are. Not all.

Anyway, there's plenty of studies on the benefits and charities which support it

How incredibly small minded of you.

Not everyone sees everything in such black and white terms as you do.

You can think whatever you want, but prisoners are entitled to have visitors, end of. It's not up to you to decide whether it is beneficial for their children or not.