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Mum friend too much

116 replies

Labmum321 · 09/07/2024 12:42

I made a mum friend on maternity leave a few years ago. I’m weeks away from having my second. In the last ten months I went from part time to full time at work and I no longer have much free time to see this other mum. I work compressed hours over 4 days. This only leaves me with a few hours on a night to make tea and spend time with my little one. On my one weekday off I like to spend the quality time with my child and not be distracted with play dates as they’re at nursery the rest of the week.

She calls me and doesn’t get off the phone for at least an hour and it’s usually just talking about other people she knows in life that I don’t know or care to hear about. I never answer to her when I’m with LO. She’d ring whilst I’m at work and I’ve made the mistake of answering a few times, then I fall behind at work! The more I try and distance myself the more she messages and calls. I’m really trying to pull away from this relationship as it’s causing me stress, I don’t have the time I used to and I’m trying to prepare for my second.

If I don’t reply to her text she will Facebook message, Snapchat, WhatsApp, and/or call many times and then send voice notes saying it was an accident. Then she’ll send really long voice notes that vary between 5-20 minutes long! She messages every time she goes to the shops (sometimes daily) to ask if I need anything getting and dropping off even though I’ve told her each time, no thanks I have a car and two legs, if I need anything I will go and get it myself. I’m not on my own and I’m not struggling and after telling her no thanks again and again it really wears thin.

I don’t want to block her, she’s a lovely person or was before this, but obviously lonely as her husband works late most days but it’s just too much for me. I go on maternity leave in a few weeks and she works term time only and thinks we’ll be meeting up all the time! (We won’t.) I used to really enjoy her company but this is too much now and it’s really put me off wanting to be her friend. She has turned up at my house a few times after I’ve said I’m busy to ‘drop things off’ (that I haven’t asked for or needed) but ends up keeping me on the doorstep for ages. She messages at least 2-3 times a day on different apps and I very rarely reply.

What would you do? A few months ago I’d had enough after receiving a really long voice note where she’s almost in tears saying if I don’t want to be friends anymore then that’s fine as I’d stop replying to her constantly. I sent her a message saying sorry, I have a lot on and just don’t have the time right now to invest in this friendship. After that I received a 10 minute long voice note saying she understands in one breath then the next 9 and a half minutes was trying to have a catch up. I’ve stopped listening to the voice notes now too as they take up too much time.

I really don’t know what else to do. Am I being unreasonable here to want to cut her off or is this really odd behaviour? Has anyone else experienced similar and if so how did you handle it?

OP posts:
LadyWhistled0wn · 09/07/2024 12:49

I had a friend like this. I had to just be blunt and tell her she was exhausting me and I didn't have the time or energy to be texting/messaging all day every day then her turning up on my doorstep in the evening!

Just be blunt tell her you don't have the time anymore to listen but you wish her well. Then ignore her don't answer or open her messages.

Labmum321 · 10/07/2024 09:17

LadyWhistled0wn · 09/07/2024 12:49

I had a friend like this. I had to just be blunt and tell her she was exhausting me and I didn't have the time or energy to be texting/messaging all day every day then her turning up on my doorstep in the evening!

Just be blunt tell her you don't have the time anymore to listen but you wish her well. Then ignore her don't answer or open her messages.

I will try and construct another well worded message, thanks. I do feel rude as I post pictures of what my daughter is doing on my story but I have a large family and it’s the easiest way to share with them what we’re up to. But it doesn’t mean I’m open to start conversations.

OP posts:
Ghgrynn · 10/07/2024 09:29

I think you’ll just have to be blunt. I would say something like ‘hi X, hope you’re well. This is a difficult message to send, but I have to set some personal boundaries for myself around communication with you because at the moment I’m finding it overwhelming. I don’t have a huge amount of time or headspace at the moment and my priority has to be my daughter and my immediate family. Going forward I won’t be listening or responding to voice notes or messages across multiple apps. I appreciate that your messages are coming from a place of caring but it’s more than I can manage.’

I think you can also restrict certain people from seeing your Facebook posts and Instagram stories so I would do that too so she’s not seeing you’re online.

JuiceBoxJuggler · 10/07/2024 09:35

Was it sent from her iphone? Jeesh - above comment gives you a great start with a message.

Venice241 · 10/07/2024 09:40

Unfortunately you will have to be very blunt.
She is completely focused on HER needs being met.

Tell her that you are simply too busy for the friendship she wants and simply do not have the time or the energy with a second baby coming.

Tell her you wish her well but you would like to leave things as your priority is your family.

Do not engage further.
This level of contact is batshit.
It is all about her needs being met, filling her time.
You could be anyone.

Joystir59 · 10/07/2024 09:43

Just block her on everything having sent her a direct simple message to the effect that you wish her well but find her overwhelming and no longer have the time to be friends with her.

Epicaricacy · 10/07/2024 09:50

Be blunt. You are not her therapist.

I’ve made the mistake of answering a few times, then I fall behind at work!
that's a bit on you, "I have a meeting, have to go, goodbye", why do you waste time on the phone if you don't want to?

20mn long voice note don't bother listening
and tell her, no time to listen to all that.

she’s a lovely person if you really don't want to cut her off completely, then arrange to see her for lunch or a coffee, in a park or soft play.

What if she was a man? A boyfriend I mean? Would you stick with him out of sympathy when you really didn't want to? Same thing really.

pictoosh · 10/07/2024 09:50

I would be (and have been) upfront and tell her you can't offer her the time and attention she seems to want.
If she's looking for a friend to chat the daily shit with, you're not it. It's just not how you roll. You're not glued to your phone.
Tell her you don't invest that sort of time and attention to anyone and actually, you have similarly valuable established friends who you struggle to slot in as it is. You can't be the pal she is looking for. You are not that person.

I have been there. The overly eager and reliant friend. Ugh.
I framed it as a simple mismatch of friendship style...which it was. I'm really not a daily contact/voicemails/messages/texts person. To those who are, I'm a poor choice of friend.

Epicaricacy · 10/07/2024 09:51

I do feel rude as I post pictures of what my daughter is doing on my story

you know you can block her from seeing these don't you?
You are also allowed to have a life without a stalker!

sesquipedalian · 10/07/2024 09:57

Do you wish to remain friends? If so, you will have to impose a few ground rules, such as not phoning when you’re at work, or not dropping round uninvited. You will have to decide what sort of friendship you want - eg, let her know you’re happy to meet up once a week for coffee but that you don’t have time for much more, and that when your next baby arrives, your priority will be getting to know your new little one and establish a routine with them whilst ensuring you don’t neglect your first one, and that it won’t leave you much time for socialising. It seems that at the moment, this relationship is very much on her terms, and you will just have to say that you find it a little overwhelming when someone constantly phones and texts. I think you need to consider what exactly you want out of this friendship - it is not your responsibility to fill in for spare time in her life when she has nothing better to do than to go in for long conversations about nothing. She is probably unaware you feel like this if you allow her to talk to you for an hour during the working day, so you will have to spell it out.

BoogalooBoo · 10/07/2024 10:25

My SIL was a bit like this after my DS was born. We never had any relationship before but it was as if us both having kids meant we could now be best friends. She's very loud, overbearing and constantly gives unsolicited advice or simply bosses you to do something. She turned up a few times uninvited and unannounced in the weeks after I'd given birth, and just sit there mouthing off for an hour whilst her toddler ran all over our flat, into our bedroom pulling at new baby toys etc. After a few weeks, and after she lifted my son off my boob to take him off to change his nappy (which he screamed at and didn't need), I just snapped and said I really can't cope with unannounced visits and to not take my baby off me again - I will decide who holds/changes him and when. She apologised but said I should be grateful for her company/help. I told her that I wasn't. We haven't really spoken since and it's a huge relief. I think my hormones and lioness protection kicked in to make me say it so bluntly, so you can always use that as an excuse. It sounds like she thinks she's helping, she needs to be told quite clearly she's not. And don't let her crocodile tears of 'if you don't want me I'll leave you alone' guilt you into anything, that's manipulative. If anything say, oh thank you I'm so glad you understand what I'm saying. And then be very limited in engaging with her again, if at all. Good luck, people like that have been doing this all their life to anyone who gives them an inch so you won't be the first or the last to have to do this.

Lavenderblossoms · 10/07/2024 10:26

Just be kind but straight forward.

No need to lead her on.

Just tell her kindly but firmly, the friendship is no longer working for you. You don't have time to be talking all day long and that she isn't respecting your boundaries when you say you don't have time. But wish her well. I would then either mute or block.

But dragging this on helps neither you or this lady. She obviously thinks you are friends and she sounds like she thinks she's been kind. However, she sounds like someone who drains.
She'd be better friends with someone who needs that. I need my space so that would drain me so bad.

Good luck to you!

Arielsmummy · 13/07/2024 08:04

I think everyone is right, you need to be firm and honest. Make it as clear as possible so no come back. You ultimately owe her nothing, do what is right for you and your family.
I think she is very lonely, probably depressed, she needs someone..anyone. it doesnt have to be you. maybe talk to her about that, and explain it can't be you but suggest she reach out to certain help groups.
Ultimately, do what is right for you and your life

Cjw50 · 13/07/2024 09:03

I am afraid I would have to block her and be harsh, you dont want a bunny boiler of a friend ....plenty more fish in the sea without the stress.

NoSheDidnt · 13/07/2024 09:09

After a long voice note send her one sounding stressed “x I just saw your voice note is 15 mins long - I don’t have time to listen to it - please please stop sending me long messages I can’t respond how I’d like to as I just don’t have time. Please stop! I don’t know a better way to say that I can’t spend chunks of my day replying to you but I think you’re a great friend but let’s keep the chat to when we meet up (and I don’t mean j my doorstep when I’m in the middle of something!)”

Cattihorocks · 13/07/2024 09:22

I would block this woman she is making you ill no explanation is needed .

ActualChips · 13/07/2024 09:35

If you feel you can't block her hide your active status on all platforms, put her on restricted, hide your stories from her.

Harassment is not friendship.

beanii · 13/07/2024 10:32

I'd send her a message saying something a long the lines of 'it's been lovely spending time with you in the past, however I'm super busy with work and family so I'm going to take a breather for a while - please don't just turn up at my house as I don't want it to be awkward. Take care' and then not respond to anything. I wouldn't block her just so you can keep an eye if she's going to randomly turn up.

Lovemyones · 13/07/2024 10:34

Going against the grain here but some people would love a friend that's actually arsed. Let's hope you don't one day need someone that you have pushed away!

AtrociousCircumstance · 13/07/2024 10:35

But she’s not arsed about the OP’s needs it seems - she’s just driven by her own. That’s the problem, she’s not tuned in to the OP at all.

AtrociousCircumstance · 13/07/2024 10:36

Did you send a message in the end @Labmum321 ?

3luckystars · 13/07/2024 10:44

I would just text ‘not sleeping great, I’m tired and very busy so taking a breather, I need a bit of quiet time, I hope you understand.’
Then just ignore absolutely everything from now until Christmas. Good luck.

SaulHudsonDavidJones · 13/07/2024 10:47

I had a friend like this. It stressed me out constantly and honestly I regret the early years when my children were young and I kept meeting up with her instead of doing what I wanted to do. Eventually I told her I'd let her know when/if I was ready to meet up but basically leave me alone. She was relentless. Years later my only regret is not cutting her off sooner. It sounds mean but it's not my fault she didn't have any other friends aside from me.

Gymmum82 · 13/07/2024 10:48

You sound a bit mean tbh. She’s clearly lonely and thought you were her friend (you’re obviously not) you’re going to be on Mat leave soon with all the time in the world for play dates which you’ll probably need and want but you’d rather cut this person off who sounds like she’d actually be there for you.
I think you should be honest with her that you don’t value her as a friend and let her make friends with someone who actually gives a shit about her

SaulHudsonDavidJones · 13/07/2024 10:49

Venice241 · 10/07/2024 09:40

Unfortunately you will have to be very blunt.
She is completely focused on HER needs being met.

Tell her that you are simply too busy for the friendship she wants and simply do not have the time or the energy with a second baby coming.

Tell her you wish her well but you would like to leave things as your priority is your family.

Do not engage further.
This level of contact is batshit.
It is all about her needs being met, filling her time.
You could be anyone.

Your last sentence is spot on. It's about her needs, she's not thinking of you, and you could be anyone. 100%.

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