To like Keir Starmer?

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Unlike Tony Blair, he comes from a working class background - his siblings would still call themselves working class.

As a very bright lawyer, he could have sought a path which made him rich quickly but instead chose human rights which isn’t an easy route to take and he’s defended ‘the little guy’ against corporations. He’s also anti-death penalty.

Ok, he’s a Sir, and I’ve heard people (perhaps not unreasonably) question why the leader of the Labour Party would have a title like that. But he earned it through work for the criminal justice system.

On the face of it, it seems as though he deserves a chance.

I would much rather have him as PM than a former Bullingdon club member who used to burn money in front of homeless people for the fun of it.

He has a post graduate degree from Oxford. After completing a first degree at that second. rate Leeds University. Like I said, the guy just epitomises failure😂

Sorry, I shouldn’t be flippant. I just can’t take nonsense statements seriously.

Well if only a very small percentage of parents send their children to private school, what is the point of taxing them again. They are already paying towards state schools in their taxes already and Keir Starmer saying he wants to use that extra money to improve state schools isn't really going to make any difference.

And no I don't have children at private school but can't see the point in taxing families twice. That will just put an extra burden on state schools if some parents can't afford the extra VAT.

The poster said he was an Oxbridge grad. He isn’t. He’s a Leeds grad. He did a BCL at Oxford. Do you dispute any of that?

You’re the one trying to make a case that he’s ’not very clever’ and failing….

I'll wait. Personally, I have no trust in any politicians. They're mainly all self serving.
Starmer was too enthusiastic about lockdowns and restrictions for my liking.
There are many examples when he's done a u turn. Which can be a good thing, but it can also show a lack of conviction and fosters a distrust.

Like everyone else, I'm hopeful for a better future but I'm not deluded and there's a lot to doubt.

YANBU. You like who you like. No judgement. What I will say is that he won on an itty-bitty amount of votes. It'd be a good idea to keep in mind that the current system is completely broken.

Infographic for perspective.

Every time there is an election people say this but no government has made moves to change it.

Plus he just persuaded the whole country to vote him in... id say that's pretty persuasive!

He certainly did not! Labour only got a third of votes much like 5 years ago when Boris Johnson and the Toreis won the election.
I am not a Tory voter, never have been but I am not a fan of Labour either. However, I want Starmer to do well, the country needs him to do well but he hasn’t had to prove himself yet.

What I will say is that he won on an itty-bitty amount of votes.

Yeah, 412 seats v 121 for the next largest party. Itty bitty.

I will reserve judgement
I wasent impressed by him being the leader of the opposition
Butl this is a very different role .

Really like him. Plus he's an atheist so hopefully pave the way to questioning the archaic practice of daily prayers in the House of the Commons. I like to think the government works well enough on its own without having to call on divine intervention.

I met him once, long ago before he was leader of the Labour Party. He was intensely clever and very serious, almost to the point of awkwardness.

I’m reminded of that West Wing quote - ‘I’m looking for a mind at work’. That’s how he strikes me; clever and intense and intentional.

I have been impressed with the speed and professionalism with which Labour has taken the reins. You can tell this is an experienced cabinet who have spent a long time preparing for this transition.

I have criticisms of Keir Starmer; he’s too centrist, his position on Gaza is weak, he’s more cautious in economic policy than I would like. But compared to the sleaze, cronyism, infighting, chaos, weakness, irrationality and self interest of the previous government he is in an entirely different category altogether and I have high hopes for this government.

The actual votes was a much smaller percentage but that's our system and it benefits any party in power.

It's not ironic at all. He has first hand experience of growing up in poverty and can see that poorer people lack the opportunities and connections that richer people count on. He wants to address that imbalance.

He's obviously a grown up and has integrity. I like him. And even if I didn't, the alternatives are awful

They won under the present system. I wasn't talking about seats. I'm talking about votes. People voting. People actually voting for Labour, which only 20% of the voting population did. They won on a shoestring.

He certainly did not! Labour only got a third of votes much like 5 years ago when Boris Johnson and the Toreis won the election.

They have 412 seats v 121 for the Tories.

You can't have it both ways - stupid but clever enough to win that many seats on a relatively small vote share?

I take it that you don’t dispute anything I’ve said. Despite your unpleasant comment about me posting things that are untrue.

Awww. What a fucking shame.

I didn’t say he is not clever or a good barrister. However, I am countering the point that he persuaded most of the country to vote for him - he didn’t. Majority seats does not equate to majority votes.

What a shame we don't have a system where right wing loon bags and fascists can have more representation in parliament.

I get it, you're happy with an unstable system. I hope it becomes so unstable that we have GEs multiple times a year. Like Israel.

The rise of the far right is very concerning but it doesn’t surprise me, considering the number of people in the UK who were not bright enough to realise that voting us out of the EU would have dire consequences and they just wanted to stop free movement.

I think he's great. And I am sick to the back teeth of people declaring him 'bland' and 'boring'. He is your PM, he isn't there for entertainment. If I was going to pick either Starmer or Boris Johnson to have a crash course in surgery and operate on me, I'd pick Starmer without a thought.

I am not sure what your point is. I don’t think anyone has said that. Labour won under the current system - fair play to them - but they didn’t have majority of the votes and that maybe problematic in a few years when the next election comes round.