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To like Keir Starmer?

556 replies

Emmanuelll · 09/07/2024 09:02

Unlike Tony Blair, he comes from a working class background - his siblings would still call themselves working class.

As a very bright lawyer, he could have sought a path which made him rich quickly but instead chose human rights which isn’t an easy route to take and he’s defended ‘the little guy’ against corporations. He’s also anti-death penalty.

Ok, he’s a Sir, and I’ve heard people (perhaps not unreasonably) question why the leader of the Labour Party would have a title like that. But he earned it through work for the criminal justice system.

On the face of it, it seems as though he deserves a chance.

I would much rather have him as PM than a former Bullingdon club member who used to burn money in front of homeless people for the fun of it.

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verdantverdure · 10/07/2024 23:14

Champagnesocialismo · 10/07/2024 23:09

I do think it is encouraging. He seems to have got a good reception. There are probably a few countries who would like the more serious, internationally minded Britain back. If he’s representing us well that’s a great start.

keep up the pics @verdantverdure

All my algorithms seem to think I need to see pictures of Keir Starmer 😀 so I shall continue to pass them on.

Turkeyhen · 10/07/2024 23:21

Great pics @verdantverdure - they all seem rather delighted with our new PM tbh!

AmelieTaylor · 10/07/2024 23:24

IClaudine · 09/07/2024 10:11

What a load of crap. This is not what MN is saying at all. People are just relieved to have a capable PM at the helm who isn't either a selfish clown, an out and out lunatic or a robot who can only communicate in sound bites.

shame that we ended up with Starmer instead.

HungryLittleCrocodile · 10/07/2024 23:25

AmelieTaylor · 10/07/2024 23:24

shame that we ended up with Starmer instead.

🙄

verdantverdure · 11/07/2024 00:22

The PM of Estonia Kaja Kallas also seems delighted with Keir Starmer:

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verdantverdure · 11/07/2024 00:23

Keir Starmer in the Oval Office:

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verdantverdure · 11/07/2024 00:23

Keir Starmer talking about the football:

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verdantverdure · 11/07/2024 00:24

Turkeyhen · 10/07/2024 23:21

Great pics @verdantverdure - they all seem rather delighted with our new PM tbh!

They do, don't they?

I get the distinct impression he's a breath of fresh air. Smile

Tinylittleunicorn · 11/07/2024 00:28

Kier Starmer was a guest on Desert Island Discs (BBC Radio) in November 2020 - I thought he came across very well. Small extra insight into the man who is now our PM

Sometimes think "boring" is code for "not an absolute utter wanker", in which case yes please!

derxa · 11/07/2024 02:36

He's a Little Englander

coupdetonnerre · 11/07/2024 02:37

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verdantverdure · 11/07/2024 03:19

🎶 The only one who could ever reach me
Was the son of a tool maker
The only boy who could ever teach me
Was the son of a tool maker
Yes he was, he was
Ooh, yes he was🎶

swimsong · 11/07/2024 03:27

Roseyjane · 09/07/2024 09:51

I like him too but he is rich and he didn’t come from a working class background no matter how much he downplays it, his father was a factory owner. He is middle class through and through and now very wealthy.

In Tom Baldwin's biography of Starmer he says that his father often felt others looked down on him simply because he worked with his hands.

TeaAndTattoos · 11/07/2024 03:37

YANBU I really like him and I think he’s going to be good for us he understands the working class a lot better than any of the others and his wife works for the NHS. Neither of them where born with a silver spoon in their mouths and as far as I can tell he’s made no empty promises.

Garlickest · 11/07/2024 03:46

Toetouchingtitties · 09/07/2024 09:39

It’ll be interesting to see how much of his alleged £7.5 million net worth he’s prepared to give up when taxes and other financial decisions start to affect the ‘general population’.

So you preferred his phenomenally rich, blatantly corrupt and incompetent predecessors? Who were also going to put taxes up, btw, and emphatically weren't giving any of their unearned wealth to the general population.

LastMinuteSubstitution · 11/07/2024 04:11

YANBU I really like him and I think he’s going to be good for us he understands the working class a lot better than any of the others and his wife works for the NHS. Neither of them where born with a silver spoon in their mouths and as far as I can tell he’s made no empty promises.

same here. I like Starner more and more in government and the calmness and purposefulness of him and his team. Thank god we as voters might finally start to see that we need grown ups who can handle complexity in charge of running our country. Rather than internally competing, incompetent, self serving, showboating, dangerous sociopaths.Or professional wind up merchants like Farage.

AnitaLoos · 11/07/2024 06:07

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Starmer’s rather ordinary terraced house is worth a fair bit - maybe even £2m - but only because London house prices are mad. He earned roughly £144k in 2023 as leader of the opposition. It was quite a lot less from 2015 to 2020 when he was just an MP. His income & tax records are in the public domain. None of this means he is ‘rolling’ in millions of pounds.

VotesAndGoats · 11/07/2024 07:36

LumiB · 09/07/2024 09:23

the irony is it's okay that he has managed to do well in life an make lots of money but now he is in power he is going after people who do the same saying they should pay more tax, let's tax their savings,.people.shoild be allowed to have more.

He of course could voluntary pay more tax if he really believed in what he is says

The amount of tax that can be raised from taxing working people in the 50k+ range is less significant than taxing the super rich asset owners I.e. taxing inheritances over a certain level etc. who don't pay tax because all their savings are tax free or saved in other assets and they live on passive incomes. The Rishi Sunaks of the world.

FinalCeleryScheme · 11/07/2024 07:53

The photos on this thread - particularly the one on the plane - have a Kim Jong Un vibe about them.

Not Starmer himself, obviously. I mean posters’ hero worship.

EasternStandard · 11/07/2024 07:55

FinalCeleryScheme · 11/07/2024 07:53

The photos on this thread - particularly the one on the plane - have a Kim Jong Un vibe about them.

Not Starmer himself, obviously. I mean posters’ hero worship.

Just looked. Blimey

Katypp · 11/07/2024 08:38

I think the Starmer hero worship on here is a bit weired tbh.
I get posters are pleased Labour won the election but this endless fawning over a
somewhat bland and unremarkable man Is strange.
We don't need to see lots of photos of people meeting Starmer as he is doing what every leader has done and will do.
Everything he does and says is admired as if it's something remarkable.
He's been in the job less than a week, he's achieved nothing so far (clearly you would not expect him too yet) yet posters are gushing about him as if everything is done and all is lovely.
And if I read one more time about grown-up being in charge I will scream.
Disclaimer: I did not vote Tory and I am.not a 'Tory bot'

Iffx · 11/07/2024 08:46

TeaAndTattoos · 11/07/2024 03:37

YANBU I really like him and I think he’s going to be good for us he understands the working class a lot better than any of the others and his wife works for the NHS. Neither of them where born with a silver spoon in their mouths and as far as I can tell he’s made no empty promises.

Just because his wife works for the NHS doesn’t mean she wasn’t born with a silver spoon.

You presumably do realise that she is a privately educated solicitor, who now works in the NHS?

Iffx · 11/07/2024 08:48

verdantverdure · 11/07/2024 03:19

🎶 The only one who could ever reach me
Was the son of a tool maker
The only boy who could ever teach me
Was the son of a tool maker
Yes he was, he was
Ooh, yes he was🎶

This is apt for the fawners!

Iffx · 11/07/2024 08:55

IClaudine · 09/07/2024 10:11
What a load of crap. This is not what MN is saying at all. People are just relieved to have a capable PM at the helm who isn't either a selfish clown, an out and out lunatic or a robot who can only communicate in sound bites.

Thing is, the attributes you describe are bare minimum for a PM. I do appreciate that we have had people in power without this bare minimum recently, so that has set the bar very, very low.

I think people need to exercise caution in their Starmer worship and not think he’s wonderful just because he’s the only recent one to have met the bare minimum.

TeaAndTattoos · 11/07/2024 09:52

Iffx · 11/07/2024 08:46

Just because his wife works for the NHS doesn’t mean she wasn’t born with a silver spoon.

You presumably do realise that she is a privately educated solicitor, who now works in the NHS?

No really you don’t say 🙄