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to be a bit put out about having to keep my birthday secret in this way?

182 replies

SecretBirthday · 08/07/2024 15:46

Hi,

Just wondering if I am BU here. I have been with my DP for a while now, he has two children (age 8 and 10) whom he co-parents with their Mum. I have a good relationship with the children and we all get on great. I celebrate their birthdays with them, put effort into getting them lovely gifts that they’ll love, the other weekend I took them to the supermarket to get stuff for a Father’s Day breakfast for DP, taking care to make sure that it was all stuff they can safely prepare for him themselves as I was on shift all day at the hospital on the Sunday, I then came home from work and cooked a Sunday dinner for DP, my dad and the children. On Mother’s Day I helped the children make something for their Mums gift - a flower arrangement in her favourite colours, etc. If DP and I take the kids away or out for food, generally we halve the expense of it, when we go and do a big shop for a weekend when they’re coming to stay, I generally go halves on that too.

We now roll around to my birthday which is next weekend, discussed with DP about what we might do, and we agreed he’d message their Mum and ask if she could have them on the Saturday night (my actual birthday - I’ve had a very difficult year so planning to have a few friends over on the garden) as it’s his usual contact weekend, we would still have the on the Friday as usual, and get them back on Sunday morning. We could also do another day to compensate. Kids mum text back and said “yep, that’s fine, in fact I’ll keep them all weekend for you”. She is great and very flexible, and DP is the same in return.

It was then mentioned that kids Mum was going to take them away that weekend so that all worked out nicely. I asked DP if we would plan to take the kids out for food or something around my birthday to celebrate and he said that he didn’t want to tell them it was for my birthday, as he didn’t want them to think that’s why they aren’t coming to dads house that weekend, etc. I asked if anything along this theme has ever been brought up before, and he said no, just that he didn’t want to plant seeds.

So I’ve asked if we’re now having to keep completely schtum about the fact I’ve even had a birthday at all and it seemed that might be the case, so I backed off from the convo really as I found the implications a bit hurtful. I also don’t want to accidentally mention my birthday in front of them and they think that I’ve actively avoided celebrating my birthday with them.

I dunno, it just feels off tbh. Like I’m useful to celebrate everyone else’s birthdays and Mother’s and Father’s Day, I’m useful for my safe adult presence, I’m useful for my cash contributions sometimes, but my birthday is being strangely minimised and glossed over, and I’m not too proud to admit that it hurts a little bit, and to add insult to injury I’m going to have to actively lie to them or omit things from our chit chat so as not to let on. The youngest one is a prolific maker of birthday/thank you/just because cards for people, they even designed a thank you card to the car hire place, and yet I won’t get a little hand made birthday card!

Before anyone starts having a go at me purely because in this scenario I’m in the “evil stepmother” role, please just give it a rest. I know some of you will deem me to be getting ideas above my station, daring to have birthday, never mind expecting acknowledgment of it. I’m not an evil stepmother, I couldn’t be more engaged, giving and considerate of the wellbeing of these children and their father (and mother) than I currently am.

AIBU?

OP posts:
daliesque · 08/07/2024 20:09

my eggs have all but run out before I ever really got chance to think about using them

I'm so sorry. You sound like you'd be a wonderful mum.

I'm loving the father Jack and tiara combo

BustyLaRoux · 08/07/2024 20:09

Actually I have reflected a bit. I will ask my ex to have the kids for a night because I want to buy tickets to something that has to be booked on a certain date only, or I can only catch a flight on a certain day, etc., I think I would just celebrate my birthday on a different day really. I certainly wouldn’t ask my ex to have the DC an extra night to celebrate my DP’s birthday. I do understand what your DP is saying. But it’s kind of done now. She wants to take them away for the weekend and it’s fine to say this is the reason they’re staying with mum. And also to mention it happens to be your birthday. But in future maybe just plan to celebrate your birthday on a day when he doesn’t have his DC

BustyLaRoux · 08/07/2024 20:14

I can see you’ve got it all sorted now and DP has been supportive. Everyone sounds very nice.

Dery · 08/07/2024 20:25

@SecretBirthday - glad you’ve got it all sorted. Completely agree with @BustyLaRoux - you all sound like really kind and thoughtful people. How lovely for the DCs to have such functional adults around them. Some of the most functional families I know are families where the parents have parted but are co-parenting reasonably and respectfully and incoming partners are appropriately caring and involved. This sounds like just such a set up. Good for you all. And happy birthday when it arrives!

Yiayoula · 08/07/2024 20:26

Sounds like alls well that ends well, @SecretBirthday .

Hope you enjoy all the celebrations and are spoilt rotten ! 🎂🍾🥂 💐

Staringatthewalljustmeagain · 08/07/2024 20:30

Why don’t people read all of an OP’s contributions before wading in with their nonsense?

autienotnaughty · 08/07/2024 20:33

Glad it's sorted. I agreed with you

Iaskedyouthrice · 08/07/2024 20:34

It sounds like it's worked out perfectly @SecretBirthday but a little reminder won't do any harm... you are just as important as your dp and his dc, your wants and needs matter just as much. Don't ever forget that. Too many women dance to the tune of a man and his children and end up resentful further down the line. Boundaries are important from the get go, well done in voicing yours. Your dp sounds very thoughtful, but it's easy to get swept up in the feeling helpful and optimistic stage of the relationship.
In 'normal' families, no one would blink an eye at the adults arranging a child free get together for a birthday but the goalposts are ALAWAYS moved when step children are involved, on Mumsnet anyway. I'm glad you've paid no attention to it. Have fun!

Edited to add, if the children had asked why they weren't invited to the OP's party then the very simple answer to them would be, 'because it's a grown up party'. The same words I've uttered to my kids countless times. Kids do not need to be lied to. It's adults that complicate everything and I have no idea why.

nootropics · 09/07/2024 07:26

It doesn’t sound like the DO is particularly committed

Happy to take his girlfriend’s money for his children (WTAF did i read that correctly… the OP goes halves when the children are staying with them?!) but doesn’t want to include his children in her birthday celebration until she gets upset with him

Lollipop81 · 09/07/2024 17:59

I’m think your partner is overthinking it. I’m sure the kids would understand

NoDought · 09/07/2024 18:04

I think you sound like you have a lovely relationship with the children and I would feel the same about wanting them to know and sharing a little celebration with them. I don’t feel you spending the weekend with out them should be received negatively and this be kept a secret. If I couple who had children together went away for a birthday celebration I don’t think the children would be upset by that, it is just adult time.

Yourcatisnotsorry · 09/07/2024 18:44

It’s not that you are having a birthday. It’s that from the kids perspective (which you could consider sometimes instead of just your own) they aren’t getting to see their dad for 3 weeks (assume EOW contact) because he’s choosing to do stuff with you instead. He sensibly doesn’t want them to feel slighted even if unintentional. He wants them to love you not be jealous etc.

AlleycatMarie · 09/07/2024 18:54

@SecretBirthday I think you sound like a wonderful person for the children to have in their life. I also think DP is doing what he thinks is best and doesn’t want the children to feel pushed out. He sounds like a great dad.
can you talk to him about how you understand his views, whilst explaining how it is making you feel? Then do something nice with the children for a birthday treat (you can be vague with the date of your actual birthday). Then still have your adult time on the Saturday?

SecretBirthday · 09/07/2024 19:15

Yourcatisnotsorry · 09/07/2024 18:44

It’s not that you are having a birthday. It’s that from the kids perspective (which you could consider sometimes instead of just your own) they aren’t getting to see their dad for 3 weeks (assume EOW contact) because he’s choosing to do stuff with you instead. He sensibly doesn’t want them to feel slighted even if unintentional. He wants them to love you not be jealous etc.

It won’t be as long as three weeks, they are collected from school twice a week by DP every single week, in addition to the weekends. We also had them last weekend on Mums weekend for an overnight and will be having them now for my birthday surprise this week, from school until school drop off again in the morning. There is also a sports day and a school fayre on two separate days. He has NEVER gone three weeks without seeing them in their entire lives.

The contact is very flexible, and the trend is towards more than mandated, rather than less. I say mandated, but the court hasn’t been involved this is just what has been agreed between Mum, Dad and the kids.

OP posts:
Bugbabe1970 · 09/07/2024 19:46

Wow there’s some major projection in this thread!

it baffles me how some people can read an OP and completely misunderstand and reinvent a situation!

Give your heads a wobble!

OP - you sound lovely and it sounds like there is some really mature co - parenting going on between you all! I’m glad you have got everything sorted now - enjoy your celebrations 😊

CatMummyOf3 · 09/07/2024 20:27

5128gap · 08/07/2024 16:03

I'd take the opposite from that tbh. Far from glossing over your birthday, your DP thinks the children might be upset at not being part of it. If you imagine it from their perspective they may feel like they're the ones being shunted off because you don't want them around for your special day. If I were your DP I'd be telling them you were having a boring adult evening on the day so thought it better they did some fun stuff with their mum, then whatever thing with you on whatever day. However, they're his children so he gets the final say I suppose.

This was my thinking too.

He's maybe taking it too far, but I think he means well.

Ap42 · 09/07/2024 22:55

He's concerned about being seen as palming his children off on his weekend to accommodate your Birthday party. I can see why he's a bit reluctant to tell the kids the truth. It may appear to them that he's putting you first, and to be honest his kids will always be his priority. He's probably trying to be mindful of their feelings, which as children, trump yours.

eastegg · 10/07/2024 09:48

pikkumyy77 · 08/07/2024 16:50

Ignore the poster who is badgering you. Your instincts are good, OP. I think your bf’s intentions are good but he’s just really ill informed about how to help kids negotiate living in two households with all that complexity. He needs to think about modeling resiliency and optimism and generosity and turn taking for them. Their needs are being net—the number if people who love and care for them is expanding. Why create a false scarcity and imply that every includion (new partner new celebrations) is an exclusion. A change of plans for the weekend is not an abandonment and shouldn’t be treated like one.

Good post.

Goodtogossip · 10/07/2024 10:26

All he needs to do is explain to the kids that their Mum has arranged to take them out that weekend so he's taking you out for your birthday & you will all celebrate together next time they're over with cake & cards. Why would he think they'd think they were being left out when you can all do something another day together. Don't let him tell you what you can & can't say about your own birthday & let him know you'd like his kids to celebrate it with you.

OneSandwichShortOfAPicnic · 10/07/2024 11:22

SecretBirthday · 08/07/2024 18:03

UPDATE.

It’s sorted, explained to DP (just as I started the thread) that I felt a bit put out that I’m good for everyone else’s celebrations and the donkey work, but my birthday is a clandestine secret, and he said one of the kids (the card maker) had already asked him specially when my birthday was (as she knows it is close to her grandmas) and so he realised it wasn’t right/fair on anyone to leave it like this. So he said he was going to tell them and we will sort something to celebrate with them. I’ve just had a calendar invite to a birthday surprise for later this week.

I think if it was as clear cut as some posters would make out, either he or I being very unreasonable then I wouldn’t have made the post in the first place, but I know he’s kind and reasonable and there must have been some blind spot somewhere that he wasn’t connecting the dots. I know this rational and flexible co-parenting arrangement hasn’t happened by accident, two calm and considerate people have worked to make it that way for the children, and have ultimately chosen new partners who fit comfortably into things and are supportive of it and the needs of the children - so it was disconcerting to find myself in a bit of a hurtful situation and that’s why I wanted to discuss it.

With regards the financial contributions or effort expended on my part, I’m never giving beyond my means or when I don’t want to, and I would find it difficult to suddenly pull back and harden myself into someone that I am not, in order to even out the transactions. I am who I am, I enjoy children and crafts and if one of your children wanted some help making some flowers for Mother’s Day, I’d help them too! I don’t give my time or money with the expectation of a return, if things don’t work out in the future then they don’t, but I’ll know that I acted authentically, with love and genuine intentions.

My parents actively harmed me when I was younger with point scoring over contact and money and my mum never made any secret about being glad to see the back of us when it was time to go to dads, etc. I’m really mindful of that, as is my DP as we both felt in our childhoods that our parents might have prioritised partners over us at times.

So glad it was just a misunderstanding and able to be resolved without having to cause a festering upset! This sounds like an all round positive relationship. Enjoy your birthday and making new memories X

pikkumyy77 · 10/07/2024 12:02

Very happy for the whole, lovely, family!

Fedupwithitx · 10/07/2024 12:07

Aw all the adults in this situation sound so caring and have the best interests of the kids at heart which is lovely to read. I think you should explain how you feel to your partner, to avoid potentially hurting the kids feelings keep quiet about the weekend party in the garden, but plan to have 'your birthday' on the next contact day, this keeps everyone happy and you'll be celebrated twice (you sound like you deserve it) 😊

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SecretBirthday · 10/07/2024 23:48

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I think they just think “cool, day out!” and don’t really consider the finances.

OP posts:
beenwhereyouare · 11/07/2024 00:41

tomketchup · 08/07/2024 15:56

so really this is hardly a year in and you’re already not happy with his parenting decisions

Oh, give over! You're twisting this into something ridiculous and you know it.

If you don't want people to think you like to eat goats, then don't stir up the stink for the joy of it.