Jess Phillips

[uneffingbelievable]

What a brave lady.

Whilst I am not an ardent Labour supporter, I completely support you and how you have stood up to the bullying, racism, violence and hatred sent your way.

Sad that your family could not be there to see your victory but under the circumstances you made the right choice.

That this country is allowing this type of intimidation and behaviour - we should be ashamed of ourselves.

…and this if the problem with Single Issue Politics. One mob baying over Gaza, another over Gender.. when we all know life (particularly as a politician) isn’t as simple as that. You are there to represent a mixed community

So objecting to the heckling and abuse and threats of violence that JP has received is Islamophobia now? Ok then. 🙄

The story is always more nuanced than the tik tok style information being passed around

Christ it's exhausting. Pps just deliberately missing the point

I haven’t lived in her constituency but know central Birmingham well and can concur with this and previous posts of the reality and failure of Birmingham as a multicultural city.

It would be a waste of time reporting the assault to the police. They haven’t got time, are misogynistic anyway, and will avoid challenge, especially when 10 witnesses will appear to say the accuser is lying.

What has happened to Jess Phillips is frightening. She has been intimidated by TRAs and their allies to silence what she knows to be true, and is at risk of losing her seat due to the religious tribalism of a voting sector.

..so what’s the point ?

Indeed.

Yep and this thread is proof of how you wouldn't be listened to. Tribalism and binary approach must end

That discounting People and justifying criminal acts against them based on single issue politics is continually divisive

Agree

I first discovered Jess P when she read the name of every woman that had been killed by (I think) their partner in the house of commons over the past year- She went over time and was (from memory) reminded at the end by the speaker that there is a time limit.

Harrowing to listen to.

Didn't know much else but shall drop a follow on the socials and looking forward to learning more about her and her leadership.

I understood it in 2005 election over Iraq because of our direct involvement and Blair's role specifically at the front and centre of an illegal war.

To the average UK voter Israel-Palestine isn't really a factor for voting intentions and there's nothing we can realistically do anyway beyond calling for a ceasefire (which Jess has). Domestic policies are what people are bothered about in our own elections. But there's large sections of communities in some constituencies who are pathological about it as the be all and end all.

https://www.itv.com/watch/news/it-was-pretty-horrendous-jess-phillips-booed-by-pro-palestinian-protesters-after-retaining-seat/kz34y2m

Sorry if this has already been posted, but it gives a good indication of what Jess Phillips had to put up with last night. I find the men filming her very sinister, and I think at the end one yells out “baby killer”. (You may have to get through an ad for Corrie first!). I’d really like to know why they weren’t immediately thrown out.

Israel is not an 'occupying' force, if you look at the history - Palestine at the time was not a state at all, it was loosely run by various different nations including the UK at the time. It was a mistake, I think most people can accept, in hindsight it was a mistake to place so many traumatised people in that particular place, but they have been there now for 80 years and some working solution will need to be found so that both states can live peacefully side by side.

This is the only thing that can work.

Hamas killing babies, murdering and raping Israeli people will not work
Israeli people retaliating with similar brute force will not work either.

I would avoid making up numbers of dead on either side, it is impossible to verify.

But this has nothing to do with Birmingham. Or anywhere else.
This has nothing to do with Jess Philips.

We can not be drawn into politics all over the world, at every election just because YOU think we should be.

We will remain a tolerant and calm nation, listening and respecting all sides and showing some understanding that there are no winners here. It is lose lose for both sides.

If you wish to remain living in a peaceful, democratic and safe country you need to stop this behaviour immediately. It will not be tolerated, and it is breaking the law.

You are entitled to your view, I am entitled to mine and they are equal.
You are not entitled to spit, intimidate, scream and threaten ANYONE in this country over ANY issue. Do you understand?

We will not accept this, and more draconian laws will be needed to deal with this otherwise.

This.

Absolutely shocking how many apologists are on here.
I was going to mention Shabana Mahmood too.
Having a gang of masked men enter your meeting is terrible.
I don't understand why there hasn't been more reporting about this.

I don't care whether you agree with someone's politics or not, intimidation should not be a part of political campaigns.
Disappointing that security didn't remove the perpetrators sooner, but, OTOH, possibly not, as a few more people might have been made aware of what Jess Phillips and others have to put up with regularly.

I've said this on other threads but I think the effect of Reform and the Gaza 'Independents' on the results is incredibly worrying for the direction of UK politics. I also think the media should have given equal focus to the comments and behaviour of the Gaza lobby as they did to bigoted Reform candidates and workers.

About twenty years ago I worked in Birmingham and there were Muslim preachers who would harass women on the streets, with particular ire directed at women whom they suspected to be Muslims wearing 'western' dress. One of my colleagues, a Kenyan Muslim, used to get shouted at every day for not covering her hair. Another colleague, a Pakistani woman who had also lived in Abu Dhabi, said she had never felt pressure to cover her face and hair until she moved to Birmingham.

It's just very concerning that religious extremism and sympathy for totalitarian regimes has found an 'in' into mainland UK politics, especially at the same time as Farage and other Putin sympathisers are on the rise in Europe. Mainstream politicians need to stop claiming that there is nothing to see here.

Labour and the other main parties need to be clear after this episode that these global conflicts have no place in local politics.

But then that might mean backing away from Labour Friends of Israel.

Blimey that acceptance speech has opened my eyes. I didn’t appreciate what was going on re single non local issue independent. That is really frightening. Chances are they will get voted in next GE. If there is anything to make me vote reform that does. I won’t of course but many will and have done clearly. Labour, and all those in power, need to stop this immediately before it spreads to other cities. This is threatening democracy.

Sorry I don't understand your point.

I didn't say that at all. I actually agree with her. But being half Indian probably makes you more likely to be Islamophobic, not less. Hindu Indian anyway. If she hadn't mentioned it I wouldn't have commented. As I say, I actually agree with what she said. Supporting genocide in Gaza is despicable, but we have no right to harass and threaten even despicable people.

She was also associated with PIE. Or do you forgive her that also?

Misogyny and PIE - not something I am ready to discount, sorry.

I sound like I agree with their politics. I absolutely don't agree with them threatening and abusing people.

I am part of a baying mob because I think that Rayner is wrong when she says that TW are women? Really? 😂

This..its fucking ridiculous.

The comment you quoted was about Angela Rayner.