Jess Phillips

[uneffingbelievable]

What a brave lady.

Whilst I am not an ardent Labour supporter, I completely support you and how you have stood up to the bullying, racism, violence and hatred sent your way.

Sad that your family could not be there to see your victory but under the circumstances you made the right choice.

That this country is allowing this type of intimidation and behaviour - we should be ashamed of ourselves.

Most do. The silent majority who need to start making ourselves heard. There's no place in society for these extremists.

Election violence is extremely rare in the UK. There is much more election violence in other places, which is why its so important not to start tolerating it here.

It will be sent to the Carpets & Brooms Dept and filed under "Nothing to See Here"

I was given dog's abuse on MN a couple of months back for suggesting that sectarian voting is coming to England. And here we are.

Starmer is going to have a big headache to deal with by the time of the 2029 election.

And to add to that, violence against women is extremely common in the UK. Intimidation & threats of violence against women politicians is also common. The common denominator is men. There is a particular issue with Jess, Shabana & others around the issue of Gaza but lets also see this in the wider context of violence against women from men across the board.

I don't think anyone is doing that, but if you cross the line into hate speech (which I assume MN must have thought you did) you can expect to be deleted

I'd also add that shouting about "genocide" on unrelated threads is really not helpful. There are more appropriate places to discuss the conflict in Gaza. Plus you have misrepresented Jess Phillips' views on a ceasefire multiple times, despite being corrected and shown evidence.

People forget politicians are people too with families.

Well to be fair some politicians forget people have families, so it's a two wway street.

No I don't think it is. If you feel politicians think you don't have a family you can withold your vote. How do we manage the dehumanisation of politicians?

I agree @SharonEllis

Stop dehumanising people ? Like asylum seekers ?

Free to speak about the genocide where I want to and no it wasn't hate speech, inconveniently for you I'm sure.

Plenty hate speech against Palestinians on this thread though including palestinians being othered and their suffering and genocide being minimised. Pretty disgusting.

Also, if you are so determined that others stick to the topic you are not doing the best job of modelling that yourself. Very hypocritical.

@Kolbie you are online and come across as hectoring, intimidating, and the kind of person who could start a fight in an empty room. I don’t know if you want to shut discussion here, or frankly why you keep coming back when you’ve said your piece and repeating it doesn’t improve the message.

I had the misfortune to see your post and yes it was hate speech. That would be why MN deleted it within 10 mins.

I have seen zero hate speech directed against Palestinians on this thread; though if you see anything you think qualifies then you can report it.

It is your opinion that another post is 'very hypocritical'; unfortunately you have done little to inspire respect for your opinion on this thread.

You complain about the 'othering' of Palestinians but you started this off by 'othering' Jess Phillips who this thread was initially about. You then stated incorrect facts about her, namely that you said she voted against a ceasefire in Gaza. When the truth was pointed out to you many times you never acknowledged your error. Your nastiness towards her is quite disturbing.

Threats are never acceptable - hopefully she’ll also follow this as she did once say she’d “knife Jeremy Corbyn in the front”

Do you know there's a whole section on Mumsnet where you'll find lots to talk about regarding Palestine/gaza/hamas.

You seem a tad angry so maybe you'll feel better joining in the multiple threads over on the CITME section .

Maybe that poster is one of the men who was heckling Jess Phillips.

@Galadriel9 "especially by using a bunch of rich politicians being mainly male as your reason to try and withhold help from vulnerable men (suicidal, homeless etc)."

I'm not trying to withhold help. Neither is Jess Philips. The point is that Philip Davies is not interested in offering help either . There are plenty of ways he could have raised this issue in the house-as Jess Philips has said on many occasions. What he wants to do is pursue a classic MRA women blaming agenda and should be disregarded.

You're missing my point if you think a politician is dehumanising asylum seekers you have various democratic ways to deal with it. Ultimately you can vote them out. If we dehumanise politicians, by failing to respect them as human beings they have no recourse unless a crime is committed. They are generally expected to suck it up. Some people think that because they disagree with the way Jess Phillips has dealt with the Gaza crisis its ok to abuse, harass and intimidate her & her team. The upshot is that fewer decent people will go into politics and a vicious circle begins. Not just politicians, but people in their team, and even volunteers.

Oh, @Ronaldo2004, don't be silly. Have you no idea how language works?

This is also such a misinterpretation. To 'stab/knife someone in the back' is a turn of phrase, as everyone knows. Her point was that she was open about being opposed to him (can't remember if it was a specific policy, or i general. In other words she would be open & transparent, as she was, not doing hidden deals behind his back. It was not a literal threat of violence, fgs.

Glad you acknowledge you have seen hate speech against Palestinians. Truth always comes out in the end.

That begs the question as to why you are here talking about Israel and Palestine. Uphold your own apparent standards.

That wasn't a threat. That was her owning her dislike of him.

It's almost as if the relationship between politician and constituent is nuanced and balanced !

I am curious as to the "various democratic ways". The only certain thing I can see is an election when the PM deigns to call one within the 5 years of a parliaments lifetime. There are no other definitive avenues I can see. And this is part of the problem.

You can write to them , go to a surgery and hold them to account in a public meeting, you can express yourself publicly in a letter to the paper, or on social media, you can start a petition, you can lobby and publicly support their opponents, you can organise a peaceful protest. Those are off the top of my head. What mechanisms would you like to see? Why do you think its acceptable to dehumanise politicians rather than engage in democratic means of influencing them?