14 years, Highest taxes in 70 years, Brexit, ‘F**k business’, Mini-budget, poverty increase, Covid lockdown parties, Doctors strikes, National Service, Rwanda, Culture Wars etc

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Please let today be Independence Day from the Tory regime.

Never forget.

We'll see what Labour plans to do to solve these problems. They sure as shit haven't told us in their manifesto beyond they're growing the economy.

What that looks like is anyone's guess.i don't think they know.

Exactly

It astonishes me how many grown adults live in a cartoon world of black and white / heroes and villans.

So childish

I agree op.

Its laughable the only thing the tory shrills can say is that labour dont know what a woman is. Utterly pathetic. As if the tories are interested in ordinary women!!!

Op please fk off , go back to 1997 and see what labour did: opened up borders thinking only 20k would come in, sold gold reserves, went in cahoots for an illegal war based on hearsay of chemical weapons which was later disproven.
They bloody bankrupted the country and will do it again.

As if. Keep trying.

They bloody bankrupted the country and will do it again

They didn’t actually. But Liz Truss certainly did.

That happened under the Tories. Starmer said he doesn't want Trans ideology taught in schools. I think it's abhorrent and can't believe it happened.

@Catza
This is such a red herring though. Less than 0.1% of population identifies as transgender woman. How this absolute minority can impact on your day to day life is absolutely beyond me. The likelihood of you coming across a transgender female in a “female space” is virtually 0.

Good apart from the numbers you start with are wrong, your calculations are wrong and your conclusions are wrong.

The census put the trans population as 5 times higher than you stated, and even this is widely believed to be too lower a figure by groups on all sides of the debate, due to inaccuracies in the census.

Secondly the likelihood of you meeting even your incorrect figure of 0.1% in a female space is clearly way higher than zero. If you use such spaces a couple of times a week, it is almost mathematically certain that you will meet someone from any given 0.1% of the population sooner or later.

Thirdly the logic that if a particular woman might never see a male in her spaces means to vote on this is illogical, is obviously flawed. If I think something is unfair, unethical and completely avoidable I will vote against it. Most women will come across males in female spaces and services at some point and many will be unharmed and unphased by it. There will be women however who due to circumstances may come across men frequently and/or be profoundly affected by it, like the nurses who were forced to change with a creepy male, the many sportswoman who have to compete against males, or the victims of trauma who want a female only space to heal and are denied this due to this crappy ideology.

I think you mean shills.

However many of us are actual ex Labour Party members. Not Tory shills by a long shot.

I genuinely hope I am wrong and they stop sterilising and mutilating kids. But all signs are pointing towards rolling back in the Cass recommendations and reconvening pumping cancer drugs into kids who play with the wrong toys.

Really,go back to history, Liz Truss was a fool that lasted days, Tony Blair should be tried as a war criminal

The answer is 0. 😂

As someone else said on another thread, it's like picking between chlamydia and gonorrhea.

They are practically the same.

YANBU I no longer live in a labour area so tactically Lib Dem for me

I don't understand who would vote for the conservatives in their current state (unless your mp really is great) 100% respect different political views but this batch of tories are not to be respected.

some people I know seem to vote as its a staus flag to vote Conservative - very odd.

Two key areas of misunderstanding here.

Firstly, of course small numbers of people can impact larger numbers of people. 1 man in a woman's prison is going to have significant impact on many women. Ditto domestic violence shelters, rape counselling, etc.

Secondly, getting an GRC is not something that only 0.1% of the population can get. Any man who wants one will be able to go to the GP and say they 'feel like a woman' and that's enough. So the 50% of the population who are not women will be able to legally become women if they want that

I agree sterilising and mutilating children is horrendous and in years to come will be the subject of police investigation and court cases. Labour are going to make this situation even worse. Vulnerable children need support and counselling, not surgery and labels.

She may have lasted days but her legacy has bankrupted Britain. But please do keep reinforcing the point. We wouldn’t want anyone to forget the damage Liz Truss inflicted.

Blair killed millions. I think given the choice, I would not be picking Blair for a rerun.

Under Labour, in order to qualify for a GRC you need to be diagnosed with dysphoria, wait two years, then see a gender specialist, not a GP.

Predators in prisons happened under the Tories. Trans ideology in schools happened under the Tories.

Wake up.

Can't wait to see the back of them either and we can begin to slowly reverse the rot

Blair isn’t up for reelection though is he.

The likelihood of you coming across a transgender female in a “female space” is virtually 0.

I am capable of thinking beyond myself though. I am unlikely to end up in prison (fingers crossed). However the idea of women incarcerated with men is something that is wrong on every level and I could never condone that. These women tend not to have much of a voice in society and they need others to stand up for them.

Labour are changing this process to eliminate the two year wait and yes the person granting the certificate could be a GP. YOU wake up

Labour always promise so much, yet deliver so little. Which is why they're rarely in power for long.

If you're young though, I completely get why Labour would appeal to you.