Voting labour for the first time. Anyone else?

[Lupina12]

Labour are far from perfect, but I like Keir Starmer and I think they are the best party to turn things around from the awful mess the incumbents have got us into.

He’s not glossy or witty or funny, but he seems decent - (he clearly has a wonderful wife and that only reflects well on him!)

Anyway, just curious - anyone else voting Labour for the first time? I’m 40 by the way and in the south east.

That old chestnut when you have no arguement! I have been here for 15 years pal, I am in no way a 'bot' thanks!

You won't engage, because every single thing I have said is the truth, and the one thing Labour voters don't seem to like is the truth.

Starmer has confirmed everything I have said, in their own manifesto and Starmer has covered this multiple times in the debates.

Yes, we are the same, we are on a good combined salary but it doesn’t feel like it under the Tories! However, it isn’t about personal interest for me it is about my Children’s future and the huge inequality in wealth statistically akin to Victorian times!

The NHS has more than enough money, they just can't handle the finances, employ people they don't need and refuse to sack a single manager. It is a very poorly run organisation.

Pensioners already pay taxes , hardly a gotcha.

We need economic growth, under the Tories, that has stagnated, we are so behind. The worst economic growth for nearly 100 years. They've had their chance. I am voting Labour. I don't agree on all policies but more than others.

And 17.4 million people do NOT regret voting leave. It would lead the war to a civil war in this country if Starmer dares to take us back into the EU.

Please open your eyes, and see what people are voting for in Europe now! Please expand your world vision beyond your own echo chamber and see what is happening in Italy, Sweden, France, the Netherlands. The people in Europe have had enough! We are going to be the outlier, not the other way around.

All this stuff about women's rights. In the year to December 2021, there were 67,125 rape offences recorded – an all-time high. Yet the number of completed rape prosecutions plummeted from 5,190 in 2016-17 to just 2,409.
If I had daughters I couldn't in good consciousness vote for a party that allowed this to happen.

Have you asked all 17.4 million ?

Yeah, in the Daily Mail 😂

Here's another for you @FriedGold.

What source would you like me to use? I'd search for the Daily Fail but I've blocked the site.

To be fair I'll give you that The Guardian is centre left, but most sources are biased. I'd suggest the Guardian is less biased than some (but then I would say that, wouldn't I 🤷‍♀️)

"The verdict
It’s true that Conservative governments have presided over the NHS for the majority of its life.

But for most of the years since the NHS was founded, it’s clear that Labour have out-spent the Conservatives."

www.channel4.com/news/factcheck/factcheck-have-the-conservatives-nurtured-the-nhs

I suspect the people voting leave would be even higher now. After all they had a campaign of terror to try and keep us in, the country apparently would fall apart and we would all be eating gruel. It just didn't happen did it.

Everywhere in Europe is changing. People do not want to be governed by a bunch of corrupt, faceless gangsters in Brussels. Starmer is so behind the times already.

Not a chance. I genuinely believe Starmer in power would be a disaster.

If Farage wasn’t splitting the right wing vote, Starmer would probably only be on course to a minority government/leading a coalition at best. Finally - Nigel Farage does something useful for the country!

Not a chance.
A man who believes a woman can have a penis spells absolute disaster for our country. What fucking planet is he on. Does his wife have a penis?

LibDem here, we’re in a Tory stronghold so very unlikely they’ll be gone but tactical voting is the only option. In another constituency it would be Labour, first time not voting Tory (I used to be a fully paid up member of the party 😬)

As at May 2024, 55% of people consider brexit was a bad idea, compared to just 31% who still support it.

I find that hard to believe.

The last quarterly figures show the UK growth highest among the G7 nations, no?

Hahahahahahahaha

‘Civil war’?! Talk about hyperbole, British people having the impetus to engage in a civil war and the money, how would those who want civil war pay for their weapons. The places that voted heavily to leave are statistically the poorest places in the country, that ironically received big EU subsidies so how the hell would this ridiculous notion be pulled off! When was the last time we saw civil war? Completely ridiculous! We aren’t the French or even the Americans!

Not would be - will be. Labour is on course for the greatest, most emphatic victory of a British Political Party in 200 years! Hopefully the Tories will be out of power for a couple of decades at the very least.

What’s hard to believe?

Oh they know you're human-they just think you're a second class one.

The study was sponsored by Europe no doubt. Look around you - you can you see what is happening in Europe right now? Or do you have your eyes covered and your fingers in your ears?

We need to get back to democracy, accountability on a much smaller scale, we need to deliver for real people in Europe. The elite are running amok and quite frankly we should be glad we had the foresight to get out as quickly as we did when you see what is coming down the track.

Starmer seems stuck in 1970s politics. It is deeply frightening when we consider Russia seem to be genuinely delighted at the prospect of having a very weak Labour government. What does that tell you?

Then you suspect wrong. 31% of people in the UK think Brexit was the right decision. 55% think it was the wrong decision.