Voting labour for the first time. Anyone else?

[Lupina12]

Labour are far from perfect, but I like Keir Starmer and I think they are the best party to turn things around from the awful mess the incumbents have got us into.

He’s not glossy or witty or funny, but he seems decent - (he clearly has a wonderful wife and that only reflects well on him!)

Anyway, just curious - anyone else voting Labour for the first time? I’m 40 by the way and in the south east.

Me too, fully holding my nose doing so but the choice where I am is between the two. It’s not just women’s rights (and that’s far more than just the trans ideology) that Labour are obviously failing to address, their plan for education is piss poor and that’s a huge issue for me. I have no issue with our current conservative MP so not worth spoiling my ballot.

I don’t believe you. From Labour in 2015 to this corrupt government?

Are you sure you're not describing the Conservatives?

@FloatingWoman yes I believe they do.

And they will ensure that men don't get to infiltrate the same sex spaces that women worked so hard to get. This is enough for me.

The Tories don’t care about women’s rights:

1. rape convictions are significantly down
2. funding for women’s refuges have been slashed meaning more women are having to stay in abusive relationships
3. millions of children have been plunged into poverty - in majority of cases it will be their mums who are suffering.

I’m gender critical, and I don’t think Labour have got that issue right. But please reconsider what a vote for Tory means.

Absolutely not. I can’t comprehend why any woman would vote for them.

The labour candidate was the only one round here to come knocking on doors
didnt see sight or sound of others only on the local news site

I can't decide between Labour and the Greens. I'm finding it very stressful as refuse to not vote. I've talked to my children as well and for two of them it is their first time and I am proxy voting for them. Every time I have voted the party whose candidate I voted for has got in. This time I'm really torn.

I assume you won’t be voting Tory then if you care about schools and the NHS 😁

Do you think Starmer has a magic wand then if he is to fix the problems ??

Or that instead he will tax to the hilt like Labour always have done and will always continue to do.

Labour are a disaster: London under Khan is fucked . You think he’ll fix the NHS? Take a look at Welsh Labour run NHS… that may change your mind.

The unions will go to town . Everything and everyone will want more money . Where do you suspect the funds for that will come from? Tax rises of course .

No this is not Rishi . I am a floating voter with my eyes wide open in all of this.

It is what Starmer hasn’t said rather than what he has said that massively concerns me.

Frankly I am terrified of a Labour government.

Believe away, or not, your choice.

If you think the conservatives have been doing a good job of running the NHS then there really is no hope for you

Broadcasters aren’t allowed to report details of campaigning or election issues on polling day, so I’m sure your source is an upstanding one.

Maybe try looking at the tactical voting site and see which party has the best chance in your area?

this is the one I used:
stopthetories.vote/

Yes.

Genuinely mind boggled over the people claiming that women’s rights is a their single issue vote and then voting Tory. Good one.

I know this has become the MN position for the feminist board, but I struggle to understand why. The trans / GC / women's spaces have been put at risk under a conservative government. Who have shown zero gumption for actually supporting women in sports or giving them safe spaces.

They've managed to define woman in a debate, but seems to have used that definition to harm women over the last 14 years instead of help. See excluding women from COVID decisions, leading to women being abandoned in domestic abuse scenarios. Women's mental health being disproportionately affected by homeschooling and female dominated business types being disproportionately affected by lockdown support (eg hairdressers Vs pubs restaurants)

What’s wrong with paying more tax?

never again

But you are not voting for the person. You are voting for the party and their policies.
What the leaders bloody wife does is neither here nor there

I've been voting in GE's since the 80's, never once voted Labour or Tory, and I'm not about to vote for a Labour party that has quite eagerly jumped into the centre right gap vacated by the Tories since 2019 for all of the same reasons why I've never voted Tory previously.

I've always voted Green historically however, I am not a "non-man" and neither are my DD. For that reason I can't vote Green or Lib dem. They can't even SAY the word "woman" let alone help or protect them.

Labour seem to think women have both penis and vagina. Either or. They aren't going to do anything different from Tory on NHS so despite being a historically left voter.... I can't. If I had Party of Women, I'd vote them but I don't.

Not for completely the first time, but the first time since 2001. I have voted LD since. I live in a safe Tory seat and fir the first time Labour are within a whisker of taking it so I'm voting Labour. I have taken a couple of quizzes to see where my views align and it's pretty equal between Labour and Lib Dem so Labour is getting my vote today.

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Omg, will the sky fall in and will we be made to open our houses to strangers, a la, Dr Zviago?

I Agree 💯

@Didimum

"What’s wrong with paying more tax"

Because when taxation is at a 70 year high and services are still shite you realise a) more tax is not always the answer b) when you realise that you may as well work less hours and not see much difference in your take home pay.