Voting labour for the first time. Anyone else?

[Lupina12]

Labour are far from perfect, but I like Keir Starmer and I think they are the best party to turn things around from the awful mess the incumbents have got us into.

He’s not glossy or witty or funny, but he seems decent - (he clearly has a wonderful wife and that only reflects well on him!)

Anyway, just curious - anyone else voting Labour for the first time? I’m 40 by the way and in the south east.

I didn't see. What was it?

Well those of us who voted anything but Tory for the last three elections and the Brexit referendum have been proved 100% correct that the Tory’s would be a disaster. So if it’s the Tory’s voters turn to be right, for a change, enjoy yourself! (Though I doubt you are)

I wouldn’t vote Labour if my arse was on fire 😂

I quite like our Conservative MP. I’ve had several written exchanges with him and been impressed with his thoughtful, considered replies. Hope he gets re-elected.

You will be a fool to vote for them.
But you need to learn a lesson.
People want they rights back. They want to go to their doctors this week not in 6 months time. We want to see medical people now. Do you think anything will change under labour. Nothing will change it will cost you more. A couple more years under the new lot will change how you feel.

I’ve always voted Labour and live in a safe Labour seat.id never vote Tory but due to Labour's position on women’s single sex spaces I’ll hold my nose and vote SDP. I’d vote for party of women if there was a candidate .

Our healthcare and education works very well here (SW) so I have no issues with that, although I am extremely concerned the private schools here will close down and we will be overrun. We have small schools here and could not absorb an exodus of that size and magnitude.

I have seen men in the ladies loo on more than occasion, and teen boys in our changing areas, and it freaked out my young dds. They felt unsafe and did not want to toilet alone. So yes it is an issue.

I am raising my dds to understand how many thousands of years it has taken for women to earn their right to be independent, and how precious it is. I am raising my girls to understand biology and how we are uniquely different. We can give birth for instance, but that comes with responsibility. My girls will respect trans people and call them whatever name they wish to be called, and have no issue with that but will stop short of offering them all of our single sex spaces due to safety and privacy concerns. Moreover, I am raising girls to be assertive and to understand their needs and rights are just as important as those of boys and men. They do not have to give way to men all of the time. They can choose to live full lives.

I just voted and it was very quiet. Always had to queue before.

Same here! Maybe we are in the same constituency 😂 did you also change boundaries?

Absolutely not.i am actually naturally quite left leaning so should be easily persuaded to vote of then. But So many bad policies telling anyone who remotely works hard at school or isn’t worth bothering as labour will applaud you for getting the good school results then hate you when you earn a decent salary because of those grades , then vilify you for being privileged and strip anything off you you have amassed to donate to those who don’t do as well as you and don’t take personal responsibility for their life choices.

but ultimately it is the women’s rights piece that means I could never bring myself to vote for them. And David lammy ‘men can grow a cervix’ tells me the quality of education of the candidates is lacking.

apart from Rosie Duffield who rocks.

I was a member of the Labour Party for several years and have voted labour for most of the last 48 years, but resigned a couple of weeks ago and have voted for the Green Party instead. I've been wavering about leaving the party for some time now, initially because I was concerned with how the party treated Jeremy Corbyn and more recently Diane Abbott, and I don't really have much confidence in Keir Starmer as leader. I was very dismayed by the labour party's stance (or lack of) on Gaza, but the final straw for me came a couple of weeks ago with a local issue when it became very clear that the Labour Party don't give a shit about ordinary people any more.

Those things are happening under the tories.

As a home owner, that’s worrying. Can you share the link to the headline you saw?

I know this isn’t directed at me so I hope you don’t mind me answering.

Labour have no intention of making healthcare functional for women’s specific health. There’s nothing to show this, no plan to focus on how dismissed women are as a group when looking at female based care.

Their education plan is extremely poor. Utterly unworkable. There is no focus on why current education is failing as a system, and absolutely nothing on making education accessible and workable for those with SEN.

Trans women shouldn’t be in female toilets. Even Starmer has said this (though he’s flip flopping so much on the issue it’s probably just an outright lie for some last minute women appeasing votes).

As for ‘LGBT Allies’, that’s just ‘be kind’ under a different guise. As a bi woman, I’d hope that poster is raising her daughters to understand that self protection for women is far more important that being an ally to another social group.

Women’s rights too big an issue for me to be able to vote Labour

This!

The Labour Wealth Tax is being warmed up right now.

We are in for a shock as Labour have kept quiet. They intend to tax bedrooms, square footage of people's gardens, cars, put up the council tax bands, a one off tax for anyone with a property over 500k. So minimum 25k for instance.

And that is just the start I believe.

That is a very weak and untrue reply.

We're all voting green. I won't be the reason our country won't change.

Because a large majority of women don't feel threatened by the drama of a few XY individuals in a changing room maybe. I'm politically homeless right now going to vote later and can't face voting for a party wanting to tax education so will likely vote Lib Dem but the tight rains on public spending and tax cut of the conservatives also appeal.

Women voting for Labour are literally turkeys voting for Christmas. It is astonishing to me, that someone would vote away their own rights, even worse that they are also doing that to their own children if they are girls.

Also met my local lib dem . M and he was a really horrible person with shocking views. Can't vote him no matter what.

What do you think Greens will do to improve the quality of your life given they only recognise the men and boys in your family?

Also remember, even if he party you vote for doesn't win this year. Your vote counts. The stats count year on year

Not at all - interested in all views. I am absolutely a feminist and fairly well-read on women’s healthcare issues and how these have historically (and currently) been overlooked (even down to the different symptoms of heart attack not previously being recognised etc), but I didn’t realise the Tories had a specific plan to deal with this - is that the case? FWIW, I don’t feel I currently align with any party but the Tories have made such a shambles of things I think they have to go.

I voted Labour for the first time ever this morning. I swore I wouldn't after Iraq, but that was 20 years ago. We need a change of government and Reform etc. are far worse. My local Labour MP is GC so I didn't feel so bad voting for her. I just hope a Labour government doesn't take it as a mandate to trample women's rights into the dust.