To think that facial enhancements make people look older/worse/ridiculous

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DH and I are watching the latest film on Netflix with Nicole Kidman & Zac Effron. We can’t believe how bad they both look with their obvious cosmetic surgery, I Googled to see their ages and was staggered at how young they are compared to how they look!
Why do people do this?
Kathy Bates looks brilliant with little or nothing done.
I just don’t understand this awful trend at all, everywhere you look people resemble waxwork dolls. It’s bloody awful.
P.S The film is dire…don’t bother🙈🙈

Zac Effron I believe has a health condition that has changed the way he looks. But he does look very different from before.
I don’t watch Love Island but I did see a post of a few women who looked late 30s but their real ages were early/mid 20s. The filler had definitely aged them. I’ve seen this with a few people I know, they are early 30s and had very skinny faces but now they are plumped with filler they look 5-10 years older. They also kind of all look like the same person now

People have what they describe as subtle tweaks? Yes but you can tell. Always.

Someone posted a photo on here once asking what she had done as a “gotcha”. It was bloody obvious that her full lips were natural but also bloody obvious that the lower part of her face resembled a puppet. I accept it as a look that I personally find unattractive but I can’t pretend it looks natural or is difficult to spot.

Its much worse and more obvious when you see people in real life.

The ignorance and judgement in this thread is astounding, spouting off about things you don't understand just to make yourself feel better about what you see when you look in the mirror.

Again, why are there 2 camps here; those who have CS and look fabulous, young, not frumpy, and those who don’t have CS, who clearly hate what they see in the mirror, an old wrinkled crow, so jealous of the former?

I am 54. When I was 16, my mum bought me a cleanser, toner and moisturiser and told me to do it twice a day for the rest of my life. I’ve really looked after my skin. At 54 I’ve the best skin of my life. It’s translucent. I’ve also the best hair of my life because I look after it. I run 20K a week, lift weights 3 x a week, and do yoga. I religiously do facial toning.

I work really hard to look after myself and I think I am growing old really gracefully. I think people who get CS are just not prepared to put the effort in and chuck money at it.

I can assure you I look perfectly fine. I don't think I've ever looked at a woman and thought she needed treatment to look better. People look good when they are happy with friends or talking animatedly or taking part in an activity they enjoy.

Fillers, Botox, lips etc - you can always tell so it’s not a natural look

I do wonder what these younger people will look like when they’re older. I remember seeing a group of elderly ladies in Tenerife who’d clearly had breast implants and face fillers. To me they looked really strange.

They also kind of all look like the same person now

I agree. They just look like clones of each other.

I think a lot of people who have lip filler done never see themselves in profile and don't realise how ridiculous they look from the side.

I think there is a difference between having work done to try and halt aging that can look worth it (Joan Collins looks great for her age) and work done that ages you and changes how you look

the former is fine the latter is now so entrenched that you can be judged for not having it - there is a whole generation of people (because it isn’t just women) who no longer look like their natural selves with no actual knowledge of the longer term implicstions

as a previous poster has said the effect of fillers and Botox used when you are in your 20s will look when you are in your 50s is unknown

I think Annette Bening looks great and has aged very gracefully. Also Andie McDowell looks absolutely stunning with grey hair.

I think a good pint has been made here.
Perhaps the younger women choosing to have work sone don’t aim for it to look natural. Perhaps it’s just a certain type if look they are going for. The same as in the 80s when I wore pink and blue eyeshadow together! There was no intention of trying to look natural.
Some of dd’s friends have had lip fillers and natural is not a word you would use to describe them. Neither is it a phrase I’d use for the spider lashes I see young women wearing.
It is a look that makes them look a lot older, especially when teamed with very tight it low cut clothing and long fake nails.
It all reminds me of Katy Price and the over fake look.
Anyhow, most 57 year olds do not look better than Nicole Kidman. There is nothing wrong with being natural either.
Obvious procedures are very ageing though. It gives the impression that you had a lot of wrinkles etc to get rid of therefore you were of a certain age to feel the need to get rid of those wrinkles etc.
I think the porn look as I call it is ageing.
Fake or bleached hair, fake tan, fake eyelashes, fake nails, Botox, lip fillers, face fillers, heavy makeup, tight, cheap looking clothes, sky scraper heels. God it’s exhausting.

I think that's a dogmatic moral statement rather than reflecting reality.

The face and hair can change very quickly over a few years with menopause. It's a noticeable change for many, and we notice change. Women also typically have thinner skin than men. All other things being equal the trajectory is not the same.

Men do not age better than women.
They just have more opportunities.
Hollywood men can still work when they are fat and old.
Off the top of my head I give you: Stallone, Bruce Willis, Arnold Swartzenegger (can’t spell it), Robert Downey Jr, Jean Claude Van Dam, in fact any older male actor.
In the UK we also had the likes of Michael Parkinson, Jeremy Clarkson, Terry Wogan, Des O’Connor, Tom O’Connor, Bruce Forsyth, Len Goodman etc etc.
Double standards.

I don't think it's true that all the male actors can just work the same when they are older- there's much surgery, hair dye and endless working out to be done to look reasonable for film. Tom Cruise has had extensive plastic surgery on his face. I'm sure they aren't above a bit of liposuction and injectables either- there are some men who look very peculiar.

Zac Efron may have had an accident, and his face reconstructed but that wouldn't make it look all over frozen and waxworky- plus if he's only 36, I'm astonished, I didn't realise there was supposed to be an age gap between them.

Nicole looks good in still shots, it's just the acting that goes into uncanny valley. I don't think she looks younger or older, she looks odd and personally I'd rather have my own face (I'm around her age) and look nice but slightly jowly than walk round with her face and everyone peering at me wondering what's off, but then I am very glad I am not a celebrity in every way and can just go nice places and do nice things with my friends with their nice mostly normal aged faces (one had Botox but didn't like it, one had eye surgery which was good).

I do also agree with the person who said it's not enhancements or nothing, I wouldn't do Botox or fillers (especially not fillers, they don't dissolve and they can migrate round the face, seen too many episodes of Botched!). I do do lots to 'enhance' my looks though- lost weight, exercise a bit, wear good clothes, take the odd supplement, had my teeth straightened. I'm not immune to wanting to look good, I don't want to look strange though and for many people, that's where they end up.

Botched is a very interesting show- what it tells me is that nothing in this life is for free. If you want big boobs and god gave you small boobs, it might work for a bit to get them replaced, but they leak, have to be replaced in the future, can go wrong in horrible ways, and usually the surgeons end up 'fixing' it all back to the size nature intended, plus the scars and stress and money of the intervening time. I'm sure there's some people who have just one thing done (I know a couple) and that works very well, and they can stop, but the rate of failure is 10-15% and if you just keep rolling that dice with injectables, surgery or too much Botox, there's eventually a point where something does go wrong.

That's even true of non-surgical/other enhancements- covering yourself in sunscreen puts lots of chemicals on your skin, having a tattoo seems to increase your risk of cancer (very recent research).

I don't think encouraging your skin to over-renew either with peels or even Tret is a good plan, but I know lots of people are super-into it.

I have a feeling the less you do, the more your body sorts itself out, especially if you eat well, hydrate well and take exercise a lot, that's what your body seems to like (I'm not that happy, I hate exercising).

Hmm, lots of cope in this thread. I wonder how many of the women bashing filler and Botox are just feeling a type of way because these procedures came along when it was already too late for them to benefit from the preventative effects? It's much easier to prevent wrinkles with Botox than to try to get rid of them when they are already etched in. The ignorance and judgement in this thread is astounding, spouting off about things you don't understand just to make yourself feel better about what you see when you look in the mirror. You probably see people every day who have had work done and you'd have no idea - it's only obvious when it's done poorly.

Not at all, botox and fillers were already quite standard before I started having any signs of ageing. I also had enough spare cash to have jumped on that bandwagon had I wished.

I haven’t commented yet but lots of women don’t feel like this. As I’ve got older I see pretty clearly it’s all about fitting that basic dumb male standard of what a woman should look like. It’s a big scam.

So many people are looking like caricatures of themselves.

My mum is 71 and has never had anything done and honestly looks so much better than similarly aged celebrities. Lots of exercise, healthy diet, fresh air, plenty of water.

. I wonder how many of the women bashing filler and Botox are just feeling a type of way because these procedures came along when it was already too late for them to benefit from the preventative effects?

Um, no. Im only in my thirties. My friend started having botox almost 10 years ago in our twenties. Her face is starting to look a bit odd now.

I have a feeling the less you do, the more your body sorts itself out, especially if you eat well, hydrate well and take exercise a lot, that's what your body seems to like (I'm not that happy, I hate exercising)

This!! So true.

When i was bf i drank loads of water and it was the best my skin had looked in ages.

Hmm, lots of cope in this thread. I wonder how many of the women bashing filler and Botox are just feeling a type of way because these procedures came along when it was already too late for them to benefit from the preventative effects?

Not in my case. I have no desire to have toxins injected into my body. I'm not convinced that these measures are "preventative" either.

I eat a balanced diet, have never smoked, have never been overweight and drink moderately. At 65 I probably look my age, but I have been told I look good. I don't want to look 35.

Men do look older with their wrinkles, grey or balding hair, and thick waistlines.
Imagine getting to a certain age and not being able to get work unless you conform to having work done.

I was watching a film with Russel Crowe in the other night, who is huge and wrinkly and clearly has had no work done 😄, and yet still has no problem being cast for roles. I thought at the time, how many leading ladies who don’t get work done or conform still get decent roles and stay popular? Just doesn’t happen.

The main issue I have with Nicole Kidman is that she has had so much facial work done, that she is now completely useless as an actress as it's impossible to read what facial expressions were intended.

Isabella Rosselini recently did a cover for Italian Vogue and at her insistence without retouching. She looks her age and is beautiful. But then she has good genes and fantastic cheekbones. But she does have wrinkles, and good for her.

Here's a link thatsnotmyage.com/beauty-at-every-age/isabella-rossellini-unretouched-on-the-cover-of-italian-vogue/