To think that facial enhancements make people look older/worse/ridiculous

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DH and I are watching the latest film on Netflix with Nicole Kidman & Zac Effron. We can’t believe how bad they both look with their obvious cosmetic surgery, I Googled to see their ages and was staggered at how young they are compared to how they look!
Why do people do this?
Kathy Bates looks brilliant with little or nothing done.
I just don’t understand this awful trend at all, everywhere you look people resemble waxwork dolls. It’s bloody awful.
P.S The film is dire…don’t bother🙈🙈

Oh my goodness- when I saw the thread title I came.here to say about that film. I watched it today and for the first hour I was trying to work out who the budget zac effron was and how he looked a bit like him which was odd, but I just couldn't place him. Then I googled and it is him! He looks really odd, I can't put my finger on what he has done, but he looks really different. Nicole Kidman I recognised straight away, but she too looks odd. The scenes with them both together are bizarre.

Why do people do it? They just look off. Maybe younger, but somehow not human.

I think fixing one small thing can work very well, I haven't had any enhancements, but I know a couple of people who have had one thing done, like their eye bag surgery, or just the 11's on their forehead with Botox. If the rest of the face looks natural, this can be a good tweak, IMO, as it addresses one ageing thing or feature you don't like without altering the rest of the face.

The biggest reason actors/actresses or even just celebrities look odd is when their faces move, it looks weird if you have a smooth forehead but wrinkles elsewhere. If you just stayed very still or took selfies, I think it probably looks better and that's why they get sucked into too many alterations, because they aren't looking at how it comes across in real life or on film, only if you stare in the mirror without moving.

I always loved Nicole Kidmans natural looks, but OMG. I watched that film and just had to Google old pics of her to compare. She looks better now than in that shite with Richard Gere ( who looked lush) so hopefully it’s wearing off. Her lips are vile- I hope she stops.
Sometimes the ‘enhancements’ are so shocking I have to stop watching- lat MAFS UK.

I just watched the trailer for their Netflix film (not watching the whole thing) and I'm not sure that Zac Efron's accident would cause him to look like a waxwork, even if he had some work done to compensate.

I also think for celebs, they want to stay very thin, but not for that to show on their faces so the constant fillers/lifting is more pronounced.

I think Kate Winslet looks fab, but she is a bit younger than Nicole, and I also think she's probably had some Botox but just hasn't gone crazy with it all.

I gave botox a go once and it really did boost my xonfidence, as it smoothed my wrinkled forehead, but I never had it done again, as I quite missed my wrinkles, as they add character to my face (I've been ugly all my life, but wrinkles somehow suit me!).

Agree. I saw a family member the other day who I haven't seen for about 3-4 years and she's had work done on her mouth area/ possibly lips and she looks like she's been punched it's awful.

She is about 30 and was really good looking before- not now.

I only read your title and clicked to say about the Nicole Kidman/Zac Effron movie!

Yes, they both looked ridiculous and unrecognisable with their shiny, plump faces.

It must be so hard to have your beauty fade publicly, but far better to do it with dignity I think.

I think there is a fine line between good work and the terrible work

nicole kidman has looked plastic for years, more recently I am shocked by Emily Blunt, she never seemed the type to conform to all that. She is such a talented actress and as an actress of her calibre you would think facial movements would be crucial!

another one is Eva mendes, she used to be so beautiful and now looks very hard in the face.

I saw rachel mcadams the other day and it was SO refreshing to see natural ageing and movement and animation in her face.

It's down to misogyny and double standards. Men do not by default age better.

Some people have work done that is very good and not obvious. A lot of people have enhancements that make them look worse or have more and more surgery done and go over the top.

Also it's clear that some people have work done as a panacea to ageing, when in reality looking after yourself through diet, sleep and exercise will have far more effect - being lucky to stay in good health, of course. Many of them are trying to deal with an unhealthy lifestyle through surgery, but surgery can only do so much.

Why are people so afraid of looking older as they get older? It's what happens as we grow up. Filled and stuffed faces can look so unnatural. Don't follow the hype. Don't be a clone of others. Embrace getting older. Be yourself at whatever age you are. Who cares what others think? Put your energy into more interesting things.
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I do wonder if the rise in botox and filters will have any impact on child development.

Babies/ toddlers etc learn a lot from the expressions on people's faces. If their primary care giver's face is frozen - surely that will have an effect?

There is a Harvard study on this - children whose mothers have botox display less empathy. It's thought that the botox does away with the microexpressions which the child would normally learn to read to understand how someone is feeling, so the child doesn't learn it.

I think there is probably a maximum of about 5 years or so with injectables before they start to look odd/overdone, particularly fillers. Also botox users seem to develop lots of undereye wrinkles and a thick nose from those being the only areas with muscles which work ,and that looks aging of itself.

Where I live fillers etc are very common. Getting your nose done can be fine, tiny bit of lip filler can look lovely but noooooo some seem to think more is better and it just looks strange.

I think for a lot of teens and younger women now it how it photographs for insta and whatever that matters which completely distorts their perception of what they look like in reality. I am gently trying to get this across to DD who insists on using tan, eyelashes and heavy makeup when she is very beautiful without these things. However when she is bombarded with images online of what the insta beautiful should look like it is very difficult to persuade her otherwise.

Agreed I think people would have botox/fillers or plastic surgery only for cosmetics reasons rarely look better.

Instead they seem to acquire a waxy/weird/grotesque appearance.

I prefer seeing in film/TV people who have let themselves age naturally and simply take care of their appearance with beauty products/good diet/exercise, rather than bizarre surgery that just distorts features.

This is also why I dislike the Kardashian look that seems to be everywhere these days in younger people: fake nails/hair/tan/eyelashes, heavy make-up, botox... .

Hideous and cheap.

One of the flight attendants on our flight had some very obvious lip fillers. After a four hour flight I'm sure they had swelled a little bit more. She just looked like a caricature when we landed.

One of the Love Island characters has had so much work done to her teeth and lips that she can't even close her mouth properly.

Pleased to report that my friends/peers are not interested in ‘tweaking’. Many are very beautiful with well cut/styled grey hair and a ‘normal’
amount of make up. No fears of looking ‘frumpy’ compared to the puffy, frankly unnatural looking face of someone with ‘work’ done.

I think fillers are almost always the problem.

I don’t think it’s fair to say Nicole Kidman looks older than she is through. In real life I don’t know a single 57-year-old who looks remotely as young as her, even with her now very strange appearance.

Also, the idea that men naturally age better than women is laughable. The vast majority of men in real life look like chewed-up bubblegum from their early thirties onwards. We just have high standards for women and zero standards for men.

I think it can definitely be done well. There are probably celebrities who people would praise for being "natural" etc, but actually they've just had some very subtle things done.

I'm not saying all of them of course - just that it's definitely possible, and of course if it's not noticeable you can't use them as examples because you don't know they've done it.

There seems to be something where people can't see it on their own face. So they have a small amount of filler think it looks great (which it may well do), but then they decide to have a bit more, then a bit more and their face starts to look odd but they just can't see it on themselves.

watched the film and thought ZE looked so different, but then haven't seen him in anything for years. NK looks ok, just not 57.

kathy bates looks amazing.

Honestly, surgery looks like ... surgery. It's a look all of it's own. One or two tweaks or fills can go un-noticed but they all go too far. Too much ££ and too many people telling them they look fabulous.

For example, N Kidman doesn't look 'younger than her age' after all that surgery - she just looks 'her age with a load of surgery'.

You just cannot replicate youth.

The looks are:
a got old and looks shite,
b got old and looks older but not too bad (luck and/or lifestyle)
c got old and had work done to try and fake being younger.

So many celebs have the money to be b, but the majority are c.

And then take c to stupid levels and all start looking the same - and on the slide to looking like Pete Burns.

There's a BBC reporter, Gary something, and if he were a woman he would have been given the elbow a decade ago.

I think a few tweaks can improve things, Sienna Miller looks amazing now for example. The difficulty is finding the right balance and things start to look odd when you are getting older but have zero wrinkles etc. I think the whole Kardashian/insta face for young women is much more damaging.