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Niece chucked her life away - anyone experienced this pain?

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Corianm · 27/06/2024 02:36

So my half sister has the most wonderful daughter who just turned 19. She is one of the loveliest girls to have ever walked the planet - she’s so kind, sweet, caring and hilarious in the most charming/endearing way. She has a lot of very young half siblings on her dad’s side and gosh the way she interacts with them is just incredible. She is adored by them.

I was always excited to see where her life would take her. My niece always expressed a desire to experience the world e.g. she hoped to live in Italy for a year and learn the language. The world was truly to be her oyster. I’m know I’m very effusive just out of a desire to convey her loveliness. Trust me my family have not been blowing smoke up her behind for the past 19 years. She very much is has her feet on the ground. Never placed on a pedestal or anything like that.

Anyway, niece recently told me she is expecting. Of course I congratulated her and expressed enthusiasm when she told me. But truth be told I am gutted. The father is a nice enough guy but is quite happy living quite an ignorant life. We once had a conversation which involved the bf arguing how boring art galleries are. I’m just heartbroken for my niece, she’s actually interested in the world and wanted to experience it. But she has completely changed her life plans (no uni now) for this boy.

I’ll always be there for her but my heart aches. It’s obviously her life to live. I’m very aware of not being inappropriate re boundaries.

Has anyone else experienced a similar situation?

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WhatThenEh · 27/06/2024 06:47

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NCgoingdry · 27/06/2024 06:47

@Whothefuckdoesthat Yeah I did actually! My first child's "father" was a total waster with no ambition. I bought the house we lived in, I paid the bills. It took a year but I ended the relationship when I could see how much he was holding me back and I took my child to a festival abroad for a week whilst planning my next move.

I lived my life with my child and then met my now husband and had two more kids. Who embraced by ambitions and dreams and we do it together.

EnidSpyton · 27/06/2024 06:48

Wordsmithery · 27/06/2024 06:46

The critical thing here is, SHE is not disappointed.

She’s 19. She hasn’t got the life experience to understand the consequences of what she’s done.

CeruleanDive · 27/06/2024 06:48

I get it, OP. Of course it's disappointing and worrying.

If you had added some of the important context and dialled down the emotion in your OP, you might have got a slightly more balanced response. But this is AIBU so probably not. It's full of posters just waiting to dismiss and mock.

As you have a good bond with her, are you able to gently ask about her previous plans being dropped like this?

Gingerdancedbackwards · 27/06/2024 06:48

YouHaveAnArse · 27/06/2024 06:35

I know people living with parents into their thirties because rent is high and student debt is crippling.

but he can still afford to go to the pub after work...

Chickenuggetsticks · 27/06/2024 06:49

The point is her niece wanted to live a life with different experiences, travel, learn a language a big life. This is the direct opposite of that.

Also the idea that mums who have children in their teens go on to have fabulous lives is just not true. I’m delighted when someone does but it doesn’t always work out like that.

LovesGladdies · 27/06/2024 06:49

EnidSpyton · 27/06/2024 06:45

I get it, OP.

The women on here taking umbrage at your feelings are women who feel upset at the idea they’ve missed out on anything by having children very young.

The reality is, having children very young means you lose the opportunity to spend your teens and twenties finding out who you are.

Going to uni as a twenty or thirty something with a child or children is a very different experience to someone going to uni as an unfettered teen. A very different experience.

Moving abroad with a spouse who has no qualifications? Not going to happen. You need visas for Europe now we’re not in the EU and they won’t be giving one to a £6 an hour labourer. If the OP’s niece still wants to go to Italy in a few years’ time, she’ll have to find a career that will allow her to take her partner and child with her. Far from easy. Not impossible, but the barriers in place will be much higher than if she did it without a family in tow.

Not to mention the partner is on a very low waged job and from a family that seems to lack ambition. So what are her chances of being able to afford university and childcare in the future? How much encouragement will she get from said partner to pursue her academic goals?

Having a child young doesn’t mean you won’t make anything of your life. However it makes making something of your life much more difficult, and it means you missing out on a really wonderful stage of life where you should have no responsibilities and loads of freedoms to explore the world and try out new things without needing to support or look after a child.

There’s a good reason why the average age of first time mothers has been going up for years. Pretending that having a child at 19 is something that won’t hold the OP’s niece back from pursuing dreams of travel and a career is nonsense.

OP I sympathise. As an aunt I would be devastated if the same were to happen to one of my nephews/nieces. I want them to have the chance to explore everything before they settle down. Having a child when they’ve only just left school is not something I’d ever dream of for them.

Well said I agree totally.

TooLateForRoses · 27/06/2024 06:50

It's her life, let her live it

KimberleyClark · 27/06/2024 06:50

I get it OP. You went to university against the grain of your family background. You’ve encouraged and nurtured your DN’s ambitions for a life beyond getting a man’s dinner on the table when he comes home and a full time mother in her teens. But she has chosen that life anyway. I understand completely why you’re gutted. I would be too.

LazyGewl · 27/06/2024 06:50

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Great post! Putting money away for her is good advice as you can be sure that she is going to need all the support - financial and emotional - that she can get. Trust your instincts about this man, op and be there for your niece when she needs you.

AstonMartha · 27/06/2024 06:50

You sound like you’ve been a great supporter for her. You can continue to support her to reach her goals with a baby. She will just need to be patient and work harder than before.

Is she happy?

Feeeqq · 27/06/2024 06:50

Tbh OP, I don’t think you’re wrong. I think she has thrown her dreams away and I would be disappointed for her too.

But - as you know and have done - all you can do now is be supportive. She may really need you one day. Make sure you don’t say “told you so” though!

NoSourDough · 27/06/2024 06:50

I hear you OP. You have an intuition on this that one day, as much as your niece will make a fantastic mum and will love her child to bits, she may regret settling so young and her partner may not be supportive when the time comes and she wants to start “spreading her wings”.

As previous posters have said, some here have had children young and made a career and life for themselves which is fantastic.

i think the worry is that she is with a potential partner who is going to cage her or clip her wings. I too would worry but as others have said, she needs to take the journey, learn the lessons and have the experience herself with your full support, which I’m sure she has.

Osco · 27/06/2024 06:50

I’d be very disappointed for her too. Can understand how you feel.

Iaskedyouthrice · 27/06/2024 06:51

Fucking hell the replies, again. Why can't people answer honestly instead of being arseholes to the OP? It is tedious. The absolute bullshit in these replies.
I would be gutted too @Corianm, your neice has made her life 10x harder than it needed to be, especially if she's saddled herself with a shit bloke.
Thats the reality. I don't get the lying in the replies on threads like these.

FrenchFancie · 27/06/2024 06:51

I do get it, OP. I remember being 19 and madly in love with someone who, had I stayed with them and had babies, would have definitely ruined my life. I would feel sad for her too.

but (and not to one up you). It could be worse. I have a family member who was similarly bright, had the world before them, privately educated, outgoing. Went to uni. Is now addicted to drugs at 21, dropped out of uni and is sort-of missing (in that he occasionally pops up to someone asking for money before disappearing again for weeks at a time).

Tontostitis · 27/06/2024 06:51

Whothefuckdoesthat · 27/06/2024 06:43

When your baby was old enough to talk about his future life and what he wanted to do with it, when he was deciding whether to be a footballer, or an astronaut or a firefighter etc, did you say ‘Son, have you considered forgetting university for the next 20 years, forgetting having the uni experience while you’re still young enough to enjoy making new friends, going on holidays with your friends, seeing new places, getting a job that’s going to pay enough to give you secure housing and a nice life? Instead, have you considered earning £6 an hour, staying at home with me for the foreseeable and fathering some children instead? Was that scenario an option you presented to your son? I’m not talking about reassurance that everything will be fine if things turn out that way, because it worked out for you, but presenting it as an alternative option. And, if not, why not?

Really not sure I understand this reply but I finished Uni as did both my dc. My dc father did a physical job and was initially a low earner but together we built an amazing business. My point was having a child young does not ruin your life. Not sure what your is tbh but i think it's disparaging of the young man in question which seems odd.

Whothefuckdoesthat · 27/06/2024 06:53

Wordsmithery · 27/06/2024 06:46

The critical thing here is, SHE is not disappointed.

Could that possibly be connected to the fact that she’s still a teenager, presumably has strong feelings for her boyfriend, and doesn’t know what she’ll be missing out on or how incredibly bloody difficult her life is going to be from here?

Chickenuggetsticks · 27/06/2024 06:53

I think I would also be checking if she actually wants the baby. Thats the first question I’d be asking my DD in that situation or if she is just expected to keep it. She really needs to understand that a child is for life.

BestZebbie · 27/06/2024 06:53

I'm 42 and I have ~15 years of reasonably 'full-time' parenting left (at minimum). She, on the other hand, will be free of childcare responsibilities by the time she is around my age, plenty of time left to learn Italian and get a job.

Gummybear23 · 27/06/2024 06:54

It don't always work out great.
Great it has for the few posters on here.
The reality is different for some.
It is that life the op is worried for her niece about.

fieldsofbutterflies · 27/06/2024 06:55

I'm not sure what the early responses here were all about Confused but I get it OP.

I also suspect all these posters saying "it's fine, it's her life" would feel very differently if it was their daughters!

Willmafrockfit · 27/06/2024 06:55

of course it is disappointing. an unplanned pregnancy at 19 op@Corianm

fieldsofbutterflies · 27/06/2024 06:56

TooLateForRoses · 27/06/2024 06:50

It's her life, let her live it

The thing is, at nineteen she has no idea what she's letting herself in for and how much she's going to be limiting herself.

It's a bloody shame imo.

Gummybear23 · 27/06/2024 06:56

BestZebbie · 27/06/2024 06:53

I'm 42 and I have ~15 years of reasonably 'full-time' parenting left (at minimum). She, on the other hand, will be free of childcare responsibilities by the time she is around my age, plenty of time left to learn Italian and get a job.

But I assume you had built your career and financially secure before having your children?
No point being 'free' at 42 when you have no money or career.
It will be tough however you package it.

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