Paula Vennells is history but now at the Post Office Inquiry is Fujitsu distinguished engineer Gareth Jenkins - thread 4

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A continuation of this thread:

https://www.mumsnet.com/talk/am_i_being_unreasonable/5094266-paula-vennells-was-done-the-other-week-the-post-office-inquiry-is-now-questioning-associates-and-others-thread-3

When the hearings are going on, live-streaming can be found here:

https://www.youtube.com/@postofficehorizonitinquiry947/featured

All of the previous hearings can be found here:

https://www.youtube.com/@postofficehorizonitinquiry947/videos

He doesn't GAF at all. Shows in his body language too.

Yes, his casual language and attitude feels so disrespectful. He's referred very dismissively to the Second Sight forensic accountants who he met personally as 'these guys' more than once.

Is there supposed to be a link in your post? There seems to be a glitch in the latest not improved app that means that links don't always appear for those using the app

Post Office Scandal website (postofficescandal.uk) and Glitch: a play about Pam Stubbs and the Post Office Scandal

And then dropped that to two days a month….

Why does he find it all so jolly? Where did they find these people!?!

I think by relationships TP means trusting the in house lawyers. I'd like Mr Beer to respond 'It would be unkind of me to ask how that's worked out for you '. (Copyright of the magnificent Mr Ben Cooper KC).

He reminds me of a dodgy used car salesman - superficially friendly, great bullshitter ... but very vague on specifics

Hindsight is a wonderful thing 😂

Gosh he sounds like Sir Humphrey - that meeting minutes should reflect what, in hindsight, you wish you had said 😂

I am actually minded to believe his core position: that there were machinations going on that he wasn't aware of, working to hidden agendas, and when the cabal would agree on their goals, they'd be packaged up as something else and presented to him, and he would (largely) cluelessly do what they'd set him to do.

But what an indictment of him and of Post Office.

He doesn't seem like a "details" man - more someone who drifts into meetings and gives a good corporate bullshit speech and then drifts out

What this makes very clear though is why General Counsel Jane MacLeod is taking advantage of being in a jurisdiction beyond the reach of the Inquiry to not be held to account.

I'm behind in my viewing but TP's just said that they ought to have found out how often judges are recused, because they might have gone about things differently.

Well, durr. It's an incredibly risky move to make and as we've seen, it was being orchestrated by the top of the pile lawyers because they were playing some game of their own, which they used Post Office and its money to engage in.

I'm amazed by people like TP.

Complete lack of self awareness.

Mr Henry being more measured in his questioning and it's hit after hit. However, TP isn't being unbalanced by this because he doesn't give a shit.

TP - it all got very adversarial - gee I wonder why that was? 🙄🙄

TP - I thought about making a public apology - but then I said nah and decided not to bother

"I don't remember, it was a long time ago" - everybody drink 🙄

He's returned to his proposition that making the subpostmasters go through the GLO was somehow him and Post Office doing them a favour by getting them to a point where things can be made good. This is one of the worst lines I've heard in any of the evidence.

The lie of this was revealed earlier when TP was asked why, in that case, he'd gone down the recusal route when that would have destroyed the subpostmasters' civil litigation.

Incredible…..

Good grief - he's losing the plot now

It's very clear that he's utterly sick of this now and wants it to end. He's getting grumpy and obstructive.

He gets very irritated when pressed for something beyond his corporate bullshit response