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Paula Vennells is history but now at the Post Office Inquiry is Fujitsu distinguished engineer Gareth Jenkins - thread 4

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nauticant · 25/06/2024 21:22

A continuation of this thread:

https://www.mumsnet.com/talk/am_i_being_unreasonable/5094266-paula-vennells-was-done-the-other-week-the-post-office-inquiry-is-now-questioning-associates-and-others-thread-3

When the hearings are going on, live-streaming can be found here:

https://www.youtube.com/@postofficehorizonitinquiry947/featured

All of the previous hearings can be found here:

https://www.youtube.com/@postofficehorizonitinquiry947/videos

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DanielGault · 03/07/2024 10:58

Quebeccles · 03/07/2024 10:55

Are we working up to 'I was too trusting'?

I think we're already there tbh. He's unbelievably chilled out, none of it seems to bother him at all.

SparksFlyUpward · 03/07/2024 11:04

'Knowing me better than anyone...'
God this guy fancies himself.

SparksFlyUpward · 03/07/2024 11:12

Now we have the 'I was very busy' defence. What you have to understand is there was a lot going on.

Lunde · 03/07/2024 11:34

Just managed to join . have I missed anything good?

He seems very smarmy and slimy - using the PV defences "I'm not a lawyer" "I can't remember"

DanielGault · 03/07/2024 11:35

Lunde · 03/07/2024 11:34

Just managed to join . have I missed anything good?

He seems very smarmy and slimy - using the PV defences "I'm not a lawyer" "I can't remember"

That's a fairly accurate summary tbh.

Oblomov24 · 03/07/2024 11:43

Seems we are set for more drivel, skirting around the issues, non-answers.
Is this enquiry going to conclude ANYTHING meaningful at all, or is it all a waste of tax payers money?

nauticant · 03/07/2024 11:50

HomelessAngua · 03/07/2024 11:00

This is worth a look

I was looking at that last night. The current run (at Reading) is sold out but it's supposed to be touring next year.

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Quebeccles · 03/07/2024 11:50

Adulatory article on Tim Parker in the Evening Standard in 2013. Funnily enough he doesn’t seem like someone who didn’t have a grip on things.

I don’t love being unpopular, I love to get a job well done and I’m willing to be unpopular,” he says, eyes narrowing. “But actually if you go around and ask people what they feel so many years later, they say we did all the right things and we are doing pretty well.”
After the AA, where he repeated the trick in roadside assistance for his long-time private-equity backer CVC and earned a cool £40 million, Parker was drawn back towards politics. But the idea of being Johnson’s chief executive on a token £1 salary and running Transport for London foundered within a few months when he discovered how many other deputies the mayor retained.
“Had I had the job to do, I could have done a very good job. There is a real need for effective turnaround managers across government and across the public sector but if you really want to manage something, you have got to have the authority and span of control to do it properly.”

Lunde · 03/07/2024 11:50

We have a new catchphrase - "qualified barrister looking at things"

... trying to impress JB? 🙄

SparksFlyUpward · 03/07/2024 12:10

TP says the report was always envisaged and he was advised by General Counsel Jane McLoud that the Swift report was legally privileged. Mr Beer points out it's not marked as such and it does not fit the criteria to attract privilege.

SparksFlyUpward · 03/07/2024 12:12

He's adamant JM advised him it was privileged and there should only be 4 copies and not saved to any hard disk.

Quebeccles · 03/07/2024 12:14

….and Jane McLeod is in Australia and refusing to appear.

nauticant · 03/07/2024 12:14

Did anyone else hear "Those bugs have been generic in the sense that they have the potential to affect any branch, depending on how it is structured" and think, that's systemic, isn't it?

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SparksFlyUpward · 03/07/2024 12:16

TP understood that legal privilege meant that circulation of the report should be restricted to the 4 people in General Counsel's department. And that he should not share it with other board members.

SparksFlyUpward · 03/07/2024 12:20

TP's says his memory is telling him now that they were worried about FOI requests and that coloured how they treated the report.

Lunde · 03/07/2024 12:25

Suddenly his memory returns and his legal knowledge increases?

DanielGault · 03/07/2024 12:53

'maybe it could have been handled a little bit better'. You don't say.

nauticant · 03/07/2024 12:55

This speech by Parker is one of the most telling of the whole Inquiry. Effectively that Post Office were, broadly, doing things right because the massive litigation by the subpostmasters was able to uncover this horrendous scandal.

I wonder if he is aware of what he's saying. Or did he start, think "oh, fuck, I think I can see where this is going to go with this but it's too late to change tack in what I'm saying"?

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SparksFlyUpward · 03/07/2024 13:00

TP is sounding very defensive now. He was very busy at the time.

DanielGault · 03/07/2024 13:00

He's so incredibly cocky 😮

DanielGault · 03/07/2024 13:02

He's giving us a lecture about being an effective chair. You couldn't make it up. Cringe!

SparksFlyUpward · 03/07/2024 13:03

He resents the suggestion that he wasn't spending enough time, one and a half days a week, on PO and wants to tell us now what makes an effective chair. It's about relationships apparently.

DanielGault · 03/07/2024 13:04

SparksFlyUpward · 03/07/2024 13:03

He resents the suggestion that he wasn't spending enough time, one and a half days a week, on PO and wants to tell us now what makes an effective chair. It's about relationships apparently.

It's bordering on satire again now isn't it. He really believes his own hype.

DanielGault · 03/07/2024 13:06

And he seems to think it's all rather funny. What an arsehole. You'd think he could at least pretend to be taking it seriously.

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