Please can someone tell me if my dd is lying? iPhone question

[F0GGYCAT]

She says she can't have find my iPhone turned on as she deleted it for storage, is that possible?

There is a massive difference between an adult parent/guardian of a minor child and a peer boyfriend.

She lying full stop. The app is just to view traceable Apple devices that’s shared. The actual tracking of the device happens with or without the app.

Child would be a it’s on or the phones gone. If she’s an adult DD then you’ve got no say however.

Sixteen isn’t an adult, which is the post cited in this chain. An adult is 18 plus and even then we continue to grow and develop. We grow up an awful lot between 15,16,17 and 18. Freedom and the ability to be self sufficient comes gradually. I got up to some dangerous things at 15/16. There is no way on earth I would want my almost 16 year old to do the same. She is sensible. We talk about things and agree limits. Parenting has changed an awful lot since I was young.

@F0GGYCAT if space is actually the real problem you can pay 99p per month for masses of cloud backup for photos. There’s no way she’s not got room for find my phone.

There is a big difference between limits and literally checking your child's every move. How will they ever become adults if they never learn to take calculated risks?

By time they get to 18 they will be too scared to leave the house.

@Mummyoflittledragon I took many risks I would not want my children to take. Going for an early morning run in your local area just isn't any sort of risk. Unless your local area is downtown LA....

It's bizarre that nobody will tell me what the risks are

Personally we used it to get back a stolen phone. If you want a ££££ phone I want to track it. It’s expensive.

Also though it is handy if they ever get lost or need picking up from a friends and they don’t know the postcode they can just ping and help with directions. So what we couldn’t get that help as kids you can now 🤷🏻‍♀️

Similarly I have apple tags hidden in ds's musical instrument case and he also put one in his backpack.

@OhmygodDont None of which applies in this case.

Yeah, the jogging at that time in the morning on her own is a non-starter unless you can check on her location.

Sounds like she isn't going where she says she's going.

Op should take up joining the morning jog

So if I am able to check where my daughter is when she leaves the house, she will be unable to leave the house?
Why?
Why does someone knowing where she is make her unable to leave??
Ridiculous.

Ok thank you, we share iCloud and this is good to know then.

@ManchesterLu "Yeah, the jogging at that time in the morning on her own is a non-starter unless you can check on her location."

Why?

You’re being ridiculous. Shes a child and could easily get attacked at that time of the morning or have an accident. I repeat she’s a child!

@Lilacapples "You’re being ridiculous. Shes a child and could easily get attacked at that time of the morning or have an accident. I repeat she’s a child!"

It was you brought up Michael Mosley and the young man in Tenerife!

How many people of any age do you know who have been attacked or injured while jogging near their homes? And of them how many would have been helped by being tracked?

So we’ve got two extremes;

a) ‘you’re a helicopter parent if you don’t turf your child out at 4 to walk across broken glass to get to school, it’s pointless trying to protect anyone or find out where they are they will never be a functioning adult if you don’t give them complete freedom, when I was young our parents left us for 2 weeks at a time with only a potato and a dripping tap these kids don’t know they are born’ group

b) ‘well unless I know who they are with at all times and they are live-streaming their conversations so I can see and hear everything then I’ll smash every electronic they own and they will never leave the house unless chained to a parent because they must be doing drugs or in a cult’ group

What about the sensible middle? The technology exists. It didn’t when most of us were younger. It is a good thing overall. It is handy to know where kids are because they are crap at keeping in touch (despite never being further than a fingertip from a device) so you don’t need to pester them to see if they are on the bus because…. you can check. It doesn’t mean you are going to question their every decision. In the OP case; the 6am running is unusual behaviour and the 15 year old child has refused to share their location. That is a worry, but so many people are concerned about their ‘tracking’ worries that they are not helping the OP with this. Another poster has literally said that their child was similar, and was meeting their dealer. I honestly think that if the OP had posted about their OH suddenly going jogging at 6am and not saying where he was going she would have got more sympathy from some (and LTB, obviously).
Come on guys. Put the agendas away and give some support to the actual question asked.

There have been suggestions of a sensible middle (having conversations about awareness etc), but they were shot down. The OP has had the question answered, however it also looks like there are deeper issues of trust here that are outside the scope of the original question. I suspect it is this aspect that has provoked responses outside the original parameters.

Where's your assertiveness? She's 15, she'll do as she's told or she won't go out.

You don't need her permission to parent her. Boundaries are important.

Find My bundles in being able to find the device if lost. It's vital IMHO.

She needs to reinstall it and get the memory back from something else.

Those asking if she pays for the phone... this is irrelevant. Her mother is worrying about her safety.

Nobody has been able to tell me why being trackable on what I presume would be quite a short run in her local area would have the slightest impact on this girl's safety.

Probably because it’s bloody obvious and everyone thinks you are just being a dick.

But ok, I’ll bite. Because if anything happened, at the very least, someone could pinpoint her last known location.

Happy?

Her mother is worrying about her safety.

I don't think that is true. Her mother is worried about her lying about where she is. That's a different problem. If it's true, then find my phone / location tracking won't help as it takes no time at all to set it up to show she is somewhere else.