Please can someone tell me if my dd is lying? iPhone question

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She says she can't have find my iPhone turned on as she deleted it for storage, is that possible?

OP if you are paying for the phone you can put what you want on it. If she doesn't like that maybe a conversation about her paying for her own phone is needed.

I got lambasted for a similar sentiment earlier. Make sure you have your flame proof suit ready.

I see 'Find my' as simply a tool that 1000s of families use. It is extremely useful for many reasons. Technology has obviously changed immensely in the last 20 years in good ways and bad ways, but regardless, it has brought a change as to how people navigate day to day lives. I don't see it as a trust issue on the part of the parent at all. A family choosing to share their locations with each other is perfectly common these days. Many many families take advantage of it. It is a useful tool.

@HappiestSleeping I got lambasted for a similar sentiment earlier. Make sure you have your flame proof suit ready.

Ha ha, I don't care but thanks for the warning.

Please will someone explain why she will be safer if she is tracked?

But it doesn't make you safer - the biggest risk running are accidents , and it would be unusual to have the kind of accident/ a heart attack I guess/ where you notice she's someone stationary and can't phone for help and that you can respond quick enough to actually help

The safety gains are marginal but the sense of not being trusted , mummy always watching you would be strong

Teens need to become independent and having mummy watch your every move is not independence

Is it worth forcing something of marginal benefit given the benefit of children growing up

It makes you easier to find if necessary. It makes your phone findable if you lose it.

I share my location with 2 of my 3 children (both over 18). We trust each other not to misuse it. I have used it in both the scenarios I gave above though. Several times in the case of finding a lost phone.

Your sneery use of "mummy" makes if clear you will never understand though so it's pointless.

I agree if running after school in a reasonably populated area. Not at 6.00 am

Life 360 is the free app for location sharing, we have it as a family. Even our adult kids as they appreciate that we don't use it to spy and they feel confident knowing where we are too. Our youngest is 18 and would like it removed as she is in a very abusive relationship and doesn't want us knowing half of the places he makes her go (That's a huge other story) but while we pay for her phone she has no choice really.

Maybe the lad in Tenerife and Michael Mosely would've been found if they had a tracker on their phone. Someone out running could easily have an accident and a young girl out jogging at 6:00 is not necessarily safe.

Michael Mosely wouldn't as he didn't take his phone with him.

True, but you understand my point, I think

Is this really a question?

I do indeed. In the case of the OP though, this sounds more like a trust issue. If that is the case, it takes about 5 minutes to spoof your GPS to make you look like you are somewhere else, at which point the tracker is useless anyway.

@Lilacapples The OP's dd is neither a 67 year old man with a heart condition overexerting himself in 30 degree heat or a young man in complicated circumstances in rough unknown terrain. I have never heard of a young person going for a run near her home having an accident that meant she could not call for help. In the vanishingly unlikely event of her being abducted, a phone will be of no help at all.

Yes it really is a question

Precisely how is being tracked safer / can you provide evidence

People who are tracked are x% less likely to .....

Sorry-my last message was meant for @Conniebygaslight

@Mumtoson123 "Is this really a question?"

Yep. Really a question. Is that really an answer?

I get that op is worried - it's your child smd the world is terrible

But you have to think logically / is this really helping her safety or just making me feel better

And if the later - us it worth fighting over

People who are tracked are x% less likely to ...

• take their phone with them.
• keep their phone switched on.
• have a healthy, trusting relationship with their parents.

Do you have to have data on for it to work though? Her phone, I mean

At the end of the day, if mum would prefer their 15yr old daughter's location was on, hopefully the daughter would be mature enough to respect their mum's wishes, and understand their feelings on their reasons why. Op, I hope you got the answer to your initial question regarding storage, and that your daughter understands x

My children had a thing called HMP- which stood for Humouring Mum's Paranoia. Which meant that they very kindly let me know where they were reasonably frequently. And here were a couple of circumstances where we mutually agreed to put a tracker on. And took it off again the moment that particular circumstance changed. I think tracking young people routinely is appalling.

@JustRollWithIt "At the end of the day, if mum would prefer their 15yr old daughter's location was on, hopefully the daughter would be mature enough to respect their mum's wishes, and understand their feelings on their reasons why. "

What if her boyfriend used the same reasons?