Page 3 | Please can someone tell me if my dd is lying? iPhone question

autienotnaughty · 25/06/2024 08:41

It's a very small amount of space. It's not really worth deleting for storage

If she has Snapchat there's location sharing on it

BaronessBomburst · 25/06/2024 08:41

Snapchat: She can share it with you, and only you.
I only share my location with DS. My nieces and nephews don't need to know when I'm at the supermarket!

Peclet · 25/06/2024 08:41

Find my phone cannot be deleted. She has clocked that you don’t track her as a rule and so she doesn’t want to be tracked at other times.

the first time she didn’t follow the rules about keeping in touch or coming home at the agreed time there would be consequences. Please get a bit more confident and firmer about where your red lines are and what the consequences are.

Find my is on and shared or no jogging. If this is a stand off get your running kit on and meet her at 6am and jog together. I would not NOT have find my on. Crazy.

How is the relationship otherwise?

lifeuniverseeverything · 25/06/2024 08:44

Smithhy · 25/06/2024 07:55

’Find my’ takes up about 50mb. Each picture takes around 2mb so it’s the equivalent of 25 pictures.

She is bullshitting you.

Came on to say this! It's the equivalent of about one short video. She's having you on.
You can reinstall it easily from the App Store and ask she keeps it on.

YoMamaOhOh · 25/06/2024 08:46

HappiestSleeping · 25/06/2024 08:01

@F0GGYCAT if it's her phone, that she paid for, with her own money, and also pays for the contract / PAYG with her own money, then it is up to her.

If, on the other hand, you bought it and pay for the contract, then you can have input into what it gets used for.

The other option is for her to have a Google account which can be set up to share her location.

Be advised though, it is possible to spoof the GPS location so it shows her as being somewhere other than where she is, if she so chose.

Edited

Sorry but you can’t allow kids to make the rules up just cos they paid for stuff. Parents still have to parent.

YoMamaOhOh · 25/06/2024 08:50

Also Life360 is a good app for location.

Ihavenoclu · 25/06/2024 08:50

F0GGYCAT · 25/06/2024 07:55

15 years old. Never had it on before but she's going jogging at 6 am and I want it on but she says no

Well she is under age and presumably you are paying for the phone? So she has it on or there is no iphone.

Yesiamtiredactually · 25/06/2024 08:52

Unfortunately for your daughter you can log on to find my iPhone from any computer with the Apple ID and password and switch it on/check what’s going on etc..
it’s up to you if you choose do this, switch it on and let her think it’s not switched on…
Also re: storage, I would bet my bottom dollar that the lack of storage is at least in part due to the evil that is TikTok. The storage that app accumulates due to goodness knows what horrors is unreal.
you need to delete it from the device and you can then redownload if and log back in (or just leave it deleted forever..) and youl have a lot more space on your device.

dontbelievewhatyousee · 25/06/2024 08:53

OP if your dd is in your family with Apple. You can control whether they are allowed to turn off sharing.

haha sigh! I tried to edit all the names out but missed one. And I liked this username too 😂

Please can someone tell me if my dd is lying? iPhone question

RedHelenB · 25/06/2024 08:55

F0GGYCAT · 25/06/2024 07:51

She says she can't have find my iPhone turned on as she deleted it for storage, is that possible?

She doesn't want you tracking her location which is fair enough. Where is she planning on jogging?

flapjackfun · 25/06/2024 09:02

My kids send me a Strava beacon when they are running, it means I can click on the link and track them easily if I need to

support.strava.com/hc/en-us/articles/224357527-Strava-Beacon

Lfw87 · 25/06/2024 09:05

I went jogging a 6am between ages 14-16 as I was training for a trekking holiday, I couldn't have gone later because I wouldn't have made it to school. My mum was a bit nervous about it so I went with a friend, would that be an option? We lived rurally so I'm sure if you live in a more dangerous area that would affect your view.

YouveGotAFastCar · 25/06/2024 09:07

F0GGYCAT · 25/06/2024 08:35

I do think she is jogging. She's very into fitness. At other times maybe she's up to something? She doesn't have a girlfriend or boyfriend as far as I know.
I have older kids and never asked them to turn it on as I wouldn't want to be tracked myself. Just want her to have it on when she's jogging and bloody text me when she's out in the evening to say where she is and when she's back as a minimum but that often doesn't happen

Get her to share her live location on WhatsApp. When she turns it on, it'll ask her how long to share for - 30 minutes, 1 hour, etc. An hour should cover a jog, and it'll automatically turn off afterwards, so she doesn't need to be worried about forgetting to turn it off.

To be honest, I wouldn't want to be tracked either. I shared my location jogging with my husband once recently when a strange man made me feel a bit uneasy, otherwise I just run. But I am older! It's not unreasonable to ask her to use live location. It won't take any additional storage and barely any additional battery.

If she won't agree to that, I'd be talking to her about why.

YouveGotAFastCar · 25/06/2024 09:08

Yesiamtiredactually · 25/06/2024 08:52

Unfortunately for your daughter you can log on to find my iPhone from any computer with the Apple ID and password and switch it on/check what’s going on etc..
it’s up to you if you choose do this, switch it on and let her think it’s not switched on…
Also re: storage, I would bet my bottom dollar that the lack of storage is at least in part due to the evil that is TikTok. The storage that app accumulates due to goodness knows what horrors is unreal.
you need to delete it from the device and you can then redownload if and log back in (or just leave it deleted forever..) and youl have a lot more space on your device.

Depending on her settings, it may well send a message to her phone. Mine always does.

But if she's tech-savvy, she'd notice anyway.

SoupDragon · 25/06/2024 09:08

@dontbelievewhatyousee you can ask MNHQ to delete the photo

Wheelerdeeler · 25/06/2024 09:09

Who is the parent? I've a 15 year old. I track him. I rarely need to but I can. A condition of having a phone.

BodyKeepingScore · 25/06/2024 09:14

HappiestSleeping · 25/06/2024 08:01

@F0GGYCAT if it's her phone, that she paid for, with her own money, and also pays for the contract / PAYG with her own money, then it is up to her.

If, on the other hand, you bought it and pay for the contract, then you can have input into what it gets used for.

The other option is for her to have a Google account which can be set up to share her location.

Be advised though, it is possible to spoof the GPS location so it shows her as being somewhere other than where she is, if she so chose.

Edited

It doesn't matter who pays for the phone. She is a 15 year old CHILD who wants to go jogging alone at 6am. It is the responsibility of her parents to ensure that she is safe in order to facilitate that. Having access to her location is part of that. At 15, she should also be subject to regular phone checks anyway irrespective of who is paying for it.

LazyGewl · 25/06/2024 09:14

F0GGYCAT · 25/06/2024 07:55

15 years old. Never had it on before but she's going jogging at 6 am and I want it on but she says no

At 15 she has no say on this one. If you want it on it goes on - especially if she is jogging alone at 6am.

FlabMonsterIsDietingAgain · 25/06/2024 09:20

SugarandSpiceandAllThingsNaice · 25/06/2024 08:27

It is possible to “delete” find my from your iPhone. Technically it isn’t deleted but a 15yr old isn’t going to know this bit of esoteric info. You remove it like you would any other App so it seems deleted.

If you got an iPhone with say only 64GB storage, she could have a point about lack of storage and/or lack of data allowances as find my uses data when out and not at home using WiFi.

You might want to consider an iCloud+ subscription to add more storage and then activate family sharing so she can access the iCloud+ storage and you can track and see how much is being used.

You also might want to consider upgrading her data allowance on her cell phone package if you want her to have find my active everytime she is out of the house.

Finally, if the objection based on logistics is masking an objection based on privacy, you may have to compromise with her on how to reassure you she is ok without her feeling constantly watched, monitored and tracked. My teens refused find my and with a teen you know they will turn it on as you stand over them and then as soon as they are 5mins away will turn it off. This will then cause battles of will, grounding, defiance, worse behaviour etc.

I instead said how about you send me texts saying you have arrived at friends house, or to gym, or at bus stop with ETA…and told them if after dark and walking to call & we can chat while they walk home.

Be aware if you share iCloud storage and you have your keychain backed up to iCloud that this means your kid will have access to your passwords.

poetryandwine · 25/06/2024 09:21

Can you explain that the issue isn’t your trust in her, it is your knowledge of the world?

Your DD is a teenager, her brain isn’t capable of assessing risk properly yet. Please be the parent. (Yes, her excuse is silly).

clarepetal · 25/06/2024 09:21

Wheelerdeeler · 25/06/2024 09:09

Who is the parent? I've a 15 year old. I track him. I rarely need to but I can. A condition of having a phone.

Edited

This..you are the adult, and she is the child.

HaudYerWheeshtYaWeeBellend · 25/06/2024 09:22

Who pays for her phone?

We pay for ds’s phones, the condition of them having the privilege of the phones is that we have live 360 and snap chat location turned on.

its never been a issue, we don’t “track” them per say, we’ve done it since they first got there phones when starting secondary school.

if they refused us, we would remove there phones/stop paying for them.

They are 14 and 18.

BodenCardiganNot · 25/06/2024 09:24

@HaudYerWheeshtYaWeeBellend

You have the ability to track your 18 year old? When will you stop?
Do you also check what he accesses on his phone?

Hardlyworking · 25/06/2024 09:25

F0GGYCAT · 25/06/2024 07:55

15 years old. Never had it on before but she's going jogging at 6 am and I want it on but she says no

The only jogging she's going on is the horizontal kind with her older boyfriend, hence the lie.

JustRollWithIt · 25/06/2024 09:27

BodenCardiganNot · 25/06/2024 09:24

@HaudYerWheeshtYaWeeBellend

You have the ability to track your 18 year old? When will you stop?
Do you also check what he accesses on his phone?

Edited

I also track my 18 year olds phone. If they lose their phone I won't be buying a new one!!! He is a student and out socialising a lot. It is very reassuring to still have the ability to track. They know I can. They are fine with it. They can also see where my phone is. All good.