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Coconutsandpalmtree · 23/06/2024 17:33

How do you live? Ie how big is your home and what’s your set up?

how much do you earn gross and net monthly?

i know it’s super invasive but we’re all friends/ anonymous strangers here. My reason for asking was the fact I was absolutely slaughtered by some poster about my tiny tiddly 4 bed home by some posters on my other thread, so I’m genuinely wondering if I’m delulu for considering a 3rd

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LovedmyRaleighChopper · 23/06/2024 20:06

3 children, four bedrooms, two sitting rooms. All three have now left leaving myself and husband rattling a bit. Would quite like to downsize but then where would everyone go for Birthdays, Easter, Christmas?

Coconutsandpalmtree · 23/06/2024 20:13

StopInhalingRevels · 23/06/2024 20:03

3DC. One 16, twins, 4.

Largish 5 bed. DH circa £150k. Me £30k part time.

Currently renting. Buying nice house soon. Mortgage will be over £3k a month. Probably £900 a month had we bought and fixed pre COVID. Fuck. We trip over each other a bit even in this size of house. 5 peoples stuff, clothes, school bits, hobbies, plus all the furniture and fittings a house needs, for 5, take up a lot of space. Dining table? Seats 8. Frankly that's not big enough if we just have my parents over and I want to put the side dishes in the centre of the table.

It depends on your aspirations. I couldn't just "survive" with 3DC. I need the big house and the nice car, and to show them all the countries and cultures and experiences we can on this brilliant planet we only get one shot on. We earn nearly £200k and I still buy nearly everything second hand because it's not enough money to have the life experience we want and buy everything new. I buy quality, eg duresta sofas but search high and low for a bargain, and buy an "as new" suite for £1,500 instead of £15,000.

I'm honestly in awe at people having 3DC on a combined income of under £50k. How you afford anything decent socially is beyond me. The pantomime this year, the five of us, tickets only, £196. Day out at the beach, took all our own lunch, but arrived and all had a hot chocolate etc, £28, ice-creams mid afternoon £22, three portions of fish n chips at the end of the day to share, £38. That's £90 on a day where the activity was free.
Meal out with drinks? £150 minimum. Was gifted tickets to the circus, not even a very good one, which would have been £160 had I bought them, that's without the popcorn and candyfloss. I can only imagine people on low incomes have a very very favourable mortgage.

But then if you don't really want to go out much, that beach day is £90, but only once a month. Greggs for all of us is £16. Walking in a park is free. Some museums are free. But it all depends if that's enough for you in life. Yeah, there's a lot of us and we could have saved £90 not buying ice-creams at the beach and sharing a chippie on the harbour wall...but we don't want that life, where it's nearly always "sorry, not today sweetheart" because of finances. Or cram round a dining table every night because it's the only table that fits in the dining room of a little house. Life's for living.

I love having a big family, the hustle and bustle at Christmas and BBQs, but I wouldn't want to do it struggling. That would not be fun at all, especially for the children.

You earn well, maybe your dh a little too well, lose tf childcare over 100 and personal allowance At 120 don’t you?

rates will come down if that makes you feel better, definitely by 2025 so if you buy maybe look at a tracker ?

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89redballoons · 23/06/2024 20:14

Have two, trying for a third.

Income is around 100k between us before tax. We both work part time. Mortgage is £1200 per month, likely to go up in September when our fixed rate ends.

We have a 3 bed terrace with a loft conversion. The children currently have a bedroom each, then there's our bedroom, and we use the loft conversion as a home office and occasional spare room.

If/when DC3 comes along we'll see if our older two are up for sharing a room. At the moment they love the idea but they keep each other awake like anything when they share on holiday. If sharing doesn't work we would use the loft conversion as our bedroom and convert our garden shed to a home office.

Coconutsandpalmtree · 23/06/2024 20:18

89redballoons · 23/06/2024 20:14

Have two, trying for a third.

Income is around 100k between us before tax. We both work part time. Mortgage is £1200 per month, likely to go up in September when our fixed rate ends.

We have a 3 bed terrace with a loft conversion. The children currently have a bedroom each, then there's our bedroom, and we use the loft conversion as a home office and occasional spare room.

If/when DC3 comes along we'll see if our older two are up for sharing a room. At the moment they love the idea but they keep each other awake like anything when they share on holiday. If sharing doesn't work we would use the loft conversion as our bedroom and convert our garden shed to a home office.

rates will come down a bit by then or you could go on a tracker

the markets are predicting 2 cuts this year, one likely in august. Swaps are down and inflation is down too

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Caffeineneedednow · 23/06/2024 20:18

I have a 12 yo DSS ( with us 40% of the time) and 2 preschool age boys. We have a 3 bed end of terrace house. Original plan was for younger ones to share but for a variety of reasons we decided not to. We split the master bedroom so we now essentially have 3 box rooms for each of the boys and a double for me and DP.

Household income of approx 80k. So monthly take home of about 5k a month between us. Its pretty tight right now with both in full time nursery but my 4 yo is starting school this year and my 18 mo will get funding from September so it will become easier soon.

We live in an area where the average house is the national average house price. Our mortgage is 1200 a month

StopInhalingRevels · 23/06/2024 20:28

Coconutsandpalmtree · 23/06/2024 20:13

You earn well, maybe your dh a little too well, lose tf childcare over 100 and personal allowance At 120 don’t you?

rates will come down if that makes you feel better, definitely by 2025 so if you buy maybe look at a tracker ?

When the rates dip, the prices will rise.

DT are at school from September though, so bloody awful double childcare is over.

Eldest was public school. DT we have been incredibly lucky and got them into a tiny state primary that is getting better results then the local public pre-prep, insanely competitive so no idea how we got two of the places, but frankly thank god because £7k term fees for the two of them, plus this impending mortgage would be impossible.

89redballoons · 23/06/2024 20:33

Coconutsandpalmtree · 23/06/2024 20:18

rates will come down a bit by then or you could go on a tracker

the markets are predicting 2 cuts this year, one likely in august. Swaps are down and inflation is down too

I know, I was hoping there would be a rate cut by now and we'd have tried to lock in a new fix, hasn't happened yet though and getting a bit nervous!

We will be ok though, my eldest starts school in September so we won't be paying for childcare for him anymore. I was hoping not to have to put the money we'd save straight into the mortgage but such is life.

Polelpuv · 23/06/2024 20:34

StopInhalingRevels · 23/06/2024 20:03

3DC. One 16, twins, 4.

Largish 5 bed. DH circa £150k. Me £30k part time.

Currently renting. Buying nice house soon. Mortgage will be over £3k a month. Probably £900 a month had we bought and fixed pre COVID. Fuck. We trip over each other a bit even in this size of house. 5 peoples stuff, clothes, school bits, hobbies, plus all the furniture and fittings a house needs, for 5, take up a lot of space. Dining table? Seats 8. Frankly that's not big enough if we just have my parents over and I want to put the side dishes in the centre of the table.

It depends on your aspirations. I couldn't just "survive" with 3DC. I need the big house and the nice car, and to show them all the countries and cultures and experiences we can on this brilliant planet we only get one shot on. We earn nearly £200k and I still buy nearly everything second hand because it's not enough money to have the life experience we want and buy everything new. I buy quality, eg duresta sofas but search high and low for a bargain, and buy an "as new" suite for £1,500 instead of £15,000.

I'm honestly in awe at people having 3DC on a combined income of under £50k. How you afford anything decent socially is beyond me. The pantomime this year, the five of us, tickets only, £196. Day out at the beach, took all our own lunch, but arrived and all had a hot chocolate etc, £28, ice-creams mid afternoon £22, three portions of fish n chips at the end of the day to share, £38. That's £90 on a day where the activity was free.
Meal out with drinks? £150 minimum. Was gifted tickets to the circus, not even a very good one, which would have been £160 had I bought them, that's without the popcorn and candyfloss. I can only imagine people on low incomes have a very very favourable mortgage.

But then if you don't really want to go out much, that beach day is £90, but only once a month. Greggs for all of us is £16. Walking in a park is free. Some museums are free. But it all depends if that's enough for you in life. Yeah, there's a lot of us and we could have saved £90 not buying ice-creams at the beach and sharing a chippie on the harbour wall...but we don't want that life, where it's nearly always "sorry, not today sweetheart" because of finances. Or cram round a dining table every night because it's the only table that fits in the dining room of a little house. Life's for living.

I love having a big family, the hustle and bustle at Christmas and BBQs, but I wouldn't want to do it struggling. That would not be fun at all, especially for the children.

£90 for a beach day! You’re choosing to spend that much, it’s not how much it costs. We live near the beach and go regularly in the summer. Today we went and it cost nothing. We walk or cycle down, we tend to bring snack or beers and picnic dinner. Might get an ice cream occasionally sure, but generally have hours of fun and definitely don’t spend 90 quid!

Honestyy · 23/06/2024 20:34

HateThese4Leggedbeasts · 23/06/2024 17:55

I have 3 and live in a 4 bed house but dh and I both wfh so 1 room is needed as a home office. As dc get older they are finding it harder to share a bedroom though. ( Dc1 and 2 shared for a while and now dc2 and 3 share. dc2 now wants her own space). By the time dc2 starts secondary we will need to have found a solution.

Are they the same sex? I know loads of same sex siblings that shared a double bedroom growing up. Or you and DH could work elsewhere in the house so each child has their own bedroom?

Mummysgonetobed · 23/06/2024 20:34

3 here - single mum on about £38k
4 bed semi detached house (recently moved from a 3 bed). All have own rooms, 2 reception rooms and a conservatory. We all rub along ok, there’s enough space

strungouteyes · 23/06/2024 20:36

A tiny 4 bed house? 🤣 No they need to mind their own business.

Coconutsandpalmtree · 23/06/2024 20:39

StopInhalingRevels · 23/06/2024 20:28

When the rates dip, the prices will rise.

DT are at school from September though, so bloody awful double childcare is over.

Eldest was public school. DT we have been incredibly lucky and got them into a tiny state primary that is getting better results then the local public pre-prep, insanely competitive so no idea how we got two of the places, but frankly thank god because £7k term fees for the two of them, plus this impending mortgage would be impossible.

To an extent but the prices never really fell that much all things considered due to the lack of homes here. Generally speaking lower rates make things more affordable.

when rates were low the BTL sector for instance was booming but now those with small portfolios are really feeling it and that’s the rates rather than the price.

it’s not like the rates will fall to 3% and then houses will cost 100k more, it’s an increase over time that will happen if rates are low or high, property generally speaking is one of the few investments that rises faster than inflation, when they are low means they will rise slightly faster.

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ChimneyP0t · 23/06/2024 20:40

3 kids, smallish 4 bed 1 bathroom semi. About to extend to add a bedroom, a bathroom and bigger kitchen. Combined salary 70k. We're not loaded but we're fine!

Coconutsandpalmtree · 23/06/2024 20:43

89redballoons · 23/06/2024 20:33

I know, I was hoping there would be a rate cut by now and we'd have tried to lock in a new fix, hasn't happened yet though and getting a bit nervous!

We will be ok though, my eldest starts school in September so we won't be paying for childcare for him anymore. I was hoping not to have to put the money we'd save straight into the mortgage but such is life.

Don’t panic, we all thought may and then swaps went a bit mental so then June but it looked unlikely. So now august is likely.

you won’t have an erc On a tracker and that will be cheaper than your svr, if you wanted to wait a while. But some are .15 above BBR which is low, so when then goes down you’ll be laughing.

but fixes aren’t based on the BBR they are based on swaps which is different and they are trending down which is why you’re seeing rates now well below bbr.

inflation is a good indicator

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StopInhalingRevels · 23/06/2024 20:45

Polelpuv · 23/06/2024 20:34

£90 for a beach day! You’re choosing to spend that much, it’s not how much it costs. We live near the beach and go regularly in the summer. Today we went and it cost nothing. We walk or cycle down, we tend to bring snack or beers and picnic dinner. Might get an ice cream occasionally sure, but generally have hours of fun and definitely don’t spend 90 quid!

Did you even read my post?

Yes we chose to do so. The point is, what kind of life is it to not have the option, or try and convince ourselves that we're perfectly happy never (or very rarely) having a treat.

We could never eat out and take a packed lunch. Virtually free. Not the life I want for my children. It's not about spoiling them, it's about having the choice. Definitely, they love a picnic. But not because treats have to be so few and far between that it's no ice-cream and packed lunch out of necessity.

Mairzydotes · 23/06/2024 20:53

Justwingingit2005 · 23/06/2024 17:58

Three dcs.
Large 3 bed house. 3 double size bedrooms.
Younger two share.
We have a low mortgage. I would like to move to a 4 bed but honestly nothing I've viewed has made me want to double my mortgage payments.
We prefer a nicer lifestyle.
Kids won't remember how big their house was but will remember travelling and seeing the world.

I agree with you. There are 5 of us in a 3 bed. Being financially secure is better for us than having the extra space.

Polelpuv · 23/06/2024 21:02

StopInhalingRevels · 23/06/2024 20:45

Did you even read my post?

Yes we chose to do so. The point is, what kind of life is it to not have the option, or try and convince ourselves that we're perfectly happy never (or very rarely) having a treat.

We could never eat out and take a packed lunch. Virtually free. Not the life I want for my children. It's not about spoiling them, it's about having the choice. Definitely, they love a picnic. But not because treats have to be so few and far between that it's no ice-cream and packed lunch out of necessity.

But most of us are perfectly happy without spending £90 at the beach. But I guess we’re all different and have different priorities in life.

FuzzyStripes · 23/06/2024 21:28

I must admit that it does feel that a cheap day out these days starts at £50, which doesn’t include fuel or parking. We do have a number of annual passes for places, or parking permits, so that we can visit frequently whilst just having one bigger financial hit for the entry costs.

Caffeineneedednow · 23/06/2024 21:33

Oh the other thing I forgot to mention about the jump from 2 -3 is the cars. Most bog standard vehicles are tough to fit 3 car seats in.

We ended up having to upgrade our car as DSS really struggled to fit between the 2 car seats in the back but have a friend with 3 preschool age children and they have also just upgraded to a minivan

Coconutsandpalmtree · 23/06/2024 21:37

Caffeineneedednow · 23/06/2024 21:33

Oh the other thing I forgot to mention about the jump from 2 -3 is the cars. Most bog standard vehicles are tough to fit 3 car seats in.

We ended up having to upgrade our car as DSS really struggled to fit between the 2 car seats in the back but have a friend with 3 preschool age children and they have also just upgraded to a minivan

Yeah completely agree. We’ve an xc90 (2019) you can have a car seat middle back but no support leg, it’s got no isofix in the middle BUT can take a belted seat, so infant carrier goes there or front (airbag off) , and me in the middle back.

on the school run I do see a lot of really dangerous car set ups over similar issues, the amount of really young children in the front (4/5 year olds) no car seat is scary

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Barrenfieldoffucks · 23/06/2024 21:45

Yes, we have a discovery 4 simply because it has 3 full seats in the back plus the 2 fold ups for extras.

We did have smaller cars when they were smaller, but our secondary kids get taller by the minute.

Mrs1904 · 23/06/2024 21:49

Coconutsandpalmtree · 23/06/2024 17:33

How do you live? Ie how big is your home and what’s your set up?

how much do you earn gross and net monthly?

i know it’s super invasive but we’re all friends/ anonymous strangers here. My reason for asking was the fact I was absolutely slaughtered by some poster about my tiny tiddly 4 bed home by some posters on my other thread, so I’m genuinely wondering if I’m delulu for considering a 3rd

We have three aged 10, 8 and 5.
Earn about 90k between us and have a 4 bedroom house. However one bedroom is V small so my middle and youngest share for now whilst eldest has his own room. Plenty of room and adore being a mum of 3, even if it does chuck allsorts of spanners in the works!

TerrorOwls · 23/06/2024 21:58

Smallish 3 bed semi detached with an ensuite loft which is mine and dh's. All 3 dc have their own room.
It's fine to share when they're young but it's tricky when they're at secondary school and one needs to study late and can't use the desk in their room. Dining table isn't ideal during the day as lots of activity and then annoying if they need to move there due to an exam the next day or something.

I'm not saying it can't work as people make do, but it is hard.

Because we didn't max out on the mortgage, we can afford to take dc to other countries and we do it as cheaply as possible. We've also been all over the uk, including some of the little islands around.

monty09 · 23/06/2024 22:00

We have 5. 3 bedrooms, not very big.
3 girls share, 2 boys share, then one more added in the mix EOW.

PrincessOfPreschool · 23/06/2024 22:05

3 kids
Moved from a 3 bed to 4 bed, which we turned into a 5 bed. I need my own room away from DH so I get some sleep. It's much better now I can sleep, so we have a bedroom each and no spare room.

Income before tax about 80k but we're in South East. Kids in state schools.

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