Starmer, JKR, what's most important to most women?

[PupInAPram]

In my more than 60 years, decades of being a single working parent, many experiences of being on the bones of my arse, Labour Party policies have made huge beneficial differences in my day-to-day life. Worrying if there is a man in the next toilet or feeling uncomfortable with a trans woman has literally never been on my radar. If I'm making a decision about voting for the politician who can bring about the greatest good for the greatest number, it's Starmer every time. I wish JKR would just pipe down.

Going back to the Ministry of Justice figures, obviously we don't know if men who identify as transwomen are just much more likely to be sex offenders, or if sex offenders pretend to be trans to try to get into women's prisons.

Either way, the evidence is clear that men who identify as transwomen are as dangerous as other men, if not much more.

So you agree men are the problem not trans women

Trans women are also men.

Transphobia is the recent most acceptable form of bigotry- just as racism, sexism and homophobia were in the past

I don't want any men in women's single sex spaces and sports. Not white men, black men, asian men, gay men, disabled men, religious men or transgender men. This is not racism, sexism, homophobia or transphobia. Think about instead of just repeating what you hear.

Why do you think you can do that and a trans woman couldn’t? If the accuser in this situation is a pig headed as some of the posters on here they’ll claim you’re lying anyway.

(The logic screams of the people who say “do I look like a terrorist?” when they’re randomly frisked at airport security. The point is you can’t tell who or what someone is by looking. And you can’t make assumptions.)

Anyone who tries to redefine the word women to include biological males is denying my existence as they are hijacking the word I use to describe my physical reality.

Alex Drummond and Alex drumonds beard will vehemently disagree with you.
Apparently 'widening the bandwith of what a woman is' includes a beard, a very nice beard.

And ok hes clean shaven but philip/pips bunce is a part time trans woman. We can tell even when hes in female mode that hes a man.
See also susie Eddie izzard.

Yeah that’s not what denying someone’s existence means. You just don’t fully understand the term.

Go on then enlighten me.

This is a bit silly tbh I could say the same about the usernames that appear on threads to tell us it’s not important

And if you look outside mn you’ll see it’s headlining on various outlets and radio

I see a lot of pro Labour reasoning from those few but are you ok with men in sports and refuges?

Also not what it means. 👏🏻👏🏻

No because if you see that it's a male nurse you can refuse consent. You can't do that if the male nurse is claiming to.be a woman. Think about it.

Haha yes I’ve already heard that one example. Thanks.
If it helps I’ve got a bit of an tache at the moment, time to book a wax or you won’t let me have a wee.

Why do you think you can do that and a trans woman couldn’t? If the accuser in this situation is a pig headed as some of the posters on here they’ll claim you’re lying anyway

As transwomen are men forcing their way into a female only space, I doubt they would tell the truth. They have no compuction about infringing on other people's rights .

No and it’s weird that you want to even ask me that.

@SergeantDawkins
Here's a post that's just popped up on my Twitter feed.
It's a video of 2 people dressed in similar clothes, posing similarly.
Can you tell which one is the woman and which is the transwoman, or do you just see 2 women?

https://x.com/marycatedelvey/status/1804540090212892946

What are ‘inappropriate clothes’?

Same names that pop up to tell everybody that no one cares about women's rights and continually can't seem to grasp that women's rights doesn't mean anti-trans. It's anti-men in women's spaces. Transwomen are men.

I see the same usernames who appear on every single topic that mentions anything remotely related to trans.

it’s a tiny circle of the same women going on and on making it seem like it’s a bigger issue than it is.

There's 75% of 642 of us on this thread.

Which is 481 and a half posters if you care to do the math. That half a woman needs to pull her weight a bit more 😂

Right so how do you know whether to believe @SnakesAndArrows when “she” claims to be female when confronted in the loos. Apparently saying “I’m female actually” will have the accuser squirming. But how would they tell if it’s true or not? If we think trans women are men lying then why would you believe anyone?

And how are androgynous or masc women protected??

I agree though. What do you think will happen to androgynous women when they are in the ladies loo and mistaken for men? Chased out and accused of being men? Who is protecting the rights of women who don’t look like women? It is impossible to police because we do not all conform to gender norms.

but posters on here INSIST they can tell what gender/sex everyone is on sight . Come on!

In my youth, I was told off by a cleaning lady for entering the ladies. 'That's the ladies!' she cried, then apologised as she looked closer and realised I was female. I was on a building site, dressed in boots and a hard hat, so not a hard mistake to make. Did I cry because I'd been misgendered? Of course not. Better to be stopped, than a man entered the ladies unchallenged.

I'm all for mutual respect, but it has to be MUTUAL i.e. Transwomen need to respect Women as well.

Trans women are trans women.

I find your response odd tbh

It’s a straightforward question which the how can you discuss this posters seem to be avoiding

On the basis that Labour have said nothing about what they intend to do with UC, PIP, workability and affordability of new taxes, the nhs, immigration etc etc etc
I think going in blind is not something I’m prepared to do. Especially when Labour lied and took us into a war with the loss of British lives.

We need a Party and PM who knows their mind, is capable of speaking out and will make the very difficult choices this country needs at the moment.
Starmer isn’t that person and Labour's manifesto says nothing.

JKR is prepared to speak out and she speaks for the safety of 51% of the population.

Are we pretending we don't know what inappropriate clothes are now?

Wearing a miniskirt with underwear that covers nothing and your genitalia peeking out of the bottom is pretty inappropriate in my opinion, how about you?

You didn’t cry because she believed you. But if the accuser is one of these posters who insists they can tell, why would they believe you? You’d have been accused and thrown out because they cannot possibly be wrong.
And just because you looked appropriately girly on closer inspection doesn’t mean all androgynous women will.

Simple solution for androgynous women, just tell all the men ,no matter how they identify, to stay out and then all the women can relax.