Holly Valance

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Holly Valance from neighbours has donated 50k to reform. The mind boggles.

Used to be a fan and loved the last episode of neighbours where she was in London.

Stop the world I want to get off.

People can hold some strange views about immigration when they are white immigrants themselves.

My uncle migrated to New Zealand in the mid-80s (as an adult, married with children). He moved for better pay. He now refers to Maoris as immigrants, and loses his shit when people my brother and I point out that Māoris are definitely not immigrants to NZ whereas he actually is an economic migrant.

Because the issue for these people isn’t immigration at all, is it, it’s too many non-white people.

I’ve heard him say Andrew Tate is a great role model for teenage boys. I’ve heard him say women should be SAHM and that women in senior leadership roles have only been promoted due to wokeness, not because they are any good, and that he wants to end this. All in the last few months.

Which bits should I be listening to where he expands on his feminist views? I’m sure he also hates trans people and you’ll be able to find evidence of that, but that isn’t quite the same as being pro women is it?

https://www.gov.uk/government/statistics/irregular-migration-to-the-uk-year-ending-june-2023/irregular-migration-to-the-uk-year-ending-june-2023

For those asking for the link and saying that illegal Immigration/sanctuary seekers is increasing across Europe, this may well be true. My point was that Nigel Farage , leader of Reform, orchestrated Brexit, and those sanctuary seekers/illegal immigrants coming across on boats to the UK has increased massively since Brexit (it was practically non existent prior to 2018). This was because France had a duty to process refugees at Calais. They no longer have that duty because we are not in the EU. Therefore illegal Immigration/refuge seekers on boats to the UK has hugely increased (as per the link).

I work in a community with very high immigration. I’ve had several conversations with people who emigrated 20-30 years ago who are very against the levels of immigration there have been in recent years. They say that this is not what they came here for and it’s ruining the country 🤷🏻‍♀️ they also complain about people not integrating.

People are always looking out for their own interests I guess.

Yes that's the essence of it. It is increasing across Europe (and beyond)

(Partly due to climate change, which I note Reform /Holly "don't believe in")

But before Brexit France took the brunt of the work away from us.

This question was put to Rishi in an interview and he didn't deny it, he looked very uncomfortable

These posts focus on one type of entry it’s changed and has been high pre Brexit

If you look it up

‘The annual number of asylum applications to the UK peaked in 2002 at 84,132.’

This doesn’t really make sense

We had very high movement in 2002 as in pp, the method of entry was clamped down on but traffickers built up a new way

It’s not to do with Brexit in the same way the EU migration isn’t

What’s your problem with it? Do you have a problem with other people donating to other political parties? If not, what’s your issue?

Possibly because Reform are just BNP with a barely there veneer of respectability

Possibly because their leader thinks Andrew Tate and Trump are good eggs

Possibly because their policies look like something written by a racist school boy who never studied maths never mind economics

I suspect quite a lot of people have a problem with racists being enabled financially to spread their racism. Don't you?

If you are talking about Reform supporters views generally, then it certainly sounds like that view may be prejudiced/bigotted towards them, you are right.

Absolutely.

No different to donating to the other parties, just because you don't agree with it doesn't mean it's wrong

I remember spending some time in Turkey when the original Turkish song was released. It was very catchy and played literally everywhere. When Holly Valance’s version came out, I felt she’d somewhat ruined it.

She really rates NF too. Ugh.

Another poster who doesn't understand how having opinions works.

Can Heineken be a political party then? This could get interesting - if a trifle confusing.

The definition of bigot is fairly clear. The Reform Party has expressed a number of views that fulfil the definition. Therefore I would assume that anyone supporting them shared the bigotry or lacked the wit to read and understand what Reform were saying. I realise of course those two possibilities are not mutually exclusive.

She choose an awful husband and doesn't appear to be bright enough to recognise her massive (lucky) privilege.

She's just an air head bimbo who's never been talented prancing around naked and that's not even her own song and she isnt anything special now her looks that she relied on have vanished she's tyring to be intelligent something shel be she's just a racist person living of her rich husband claiming it as her money hope they lose all there big houses and flash cars then they can eat from food banks and dead by time they get seen from waiting on an. NHS appointment they have a clue what it's like because her husband as if drowning in money...

It is because the leader wasn't democratically elected.

This is the man you are voting for, and you wonder why people have opinions about that? Yes, you are free to support whoever you like. Other people are also free to have opinions about it.

People who think he is pro women should watch the bit at 6.30...

She's a has been anyway..

What a stupid bitch

@PrinnyPree it still doesn't make it anyone's business how HV spends HER money.

i don't have to agree with her political view to defend her spending her money as she wants (as long as it's legal)

there are donors to all the parties that I don't agree with their political views, but they're still entitled to their views & to spend their money how they want to.

Making horrible comments about people who vote differently to you, doesn't make you look big or clever, quite the opposite.

and just to be clear, I won't be voting reform.

Just shows how not especially bright she is really...