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Who should be denied cheap flight set up?

498 replies

Wayda · 20/06/2024 12:54

My younger brother is a pilot. For 5+ years I have been lucky enough to get access to very discounted cheap flights. Appreciate that. Has helped my child and I experience many things we simply would not be able to otherwise (single mum). My brother recently mentioned that I along with our other brother need to figure out who will keep the cheap flights. Pilot brother has 5 spots which he can divvy out. He has recently become serious with a girlfriend who he wants to give the discount to.

My brother (not the pilot) is on a far higher salary than me and does not have kids. Yes, he travels more than me but that is due to him having the time to do so. This brother also loaned my younger brother some money to live off whilst training so I think feels entitled to the discounts. He probably earns £80k. Anyway, when we met at the weekend he told me “you had a good run”! The cheek! Assuming I should give up my spot.

Parents witnessed this and did not say anything about their spots. If I were them I would try and help out a single mother. I know it may seem entitled but I’m more hurt by the lack of consideration.

AIBU?

OP posts:
Riversideandrelax · 20/06/2024 17:11

countcalculia · 20/06/2024 17:07

Why should he pass on the benefit? OP has benefitted for 5 years.

I've not said he should? He has also benefited for 5 years.

OhmygodDont · 20/06/2024 17:11

Maybe the other brother (and secretly the pilot) feel as a family they have all given op enough handouts and help over the last however many years and it’s time she starts being a radiator rather than just a drain.

If ops this entitled over free/cheap flights abroad god knows what else she feels entitled to because she’s a single mum 🤷🏻‍♀️ most people would be thanking the high heavens for even one free holiday in five years not bitching that the gravy train might stop.

MrsMiddleMother · 20/06/2024 17:11

I don't think you are unreasonable at all. But it was wrong of your brother to make you both fight it out, neither siblings should get the discount moving forward.

Riversideandrelax · 20/06/2024 17:12

worrieddaughter97 · 20/06/2024 17:08

Why?

He gave his brother £80,000. Without him there would be no discount

I just don't think like that. I'm maybe less self centred. It seems selfish to me.

iamtheblcksheep · 20/06/2024 17:12

Tel12 · 20/06/2024 12:58

Maybe you should all stop jetting about and reduce your carbon footprint? Especially as you have a DC.

Oh please have a day off

OutsideLookingOut · 20/06/2024 17:13

Why not alternate the tickets, one year you get two, one year he gets two to use as he wishes? Otherwise one ticket each.

worrieddaughter97 · 20/06/2024 17:13

Riversideandrelax · 20/06/2024 17:12

I just don't think like that. I'm maybe less self centred. It seems selfish to me.

Oh please.

She's not entitled to a holiday because she's a single mum.

Summerbay23 · 20/06/2024 17:13

I also think you’re going to have to suck this up. The slots go to you, DB, parents and girlfriend. Unless your parents want to give up one slot or your brother?

Its hard luck but you’ll just have to have cheaper holidays (or less of them).

Arewealljustloosingtheplot · 20/06/2024 17:14

Riversideandrelax · 20/06/2024 16:30

And how is the other brother not selfish for wanting to keep the discount for himself? These replies are wild! I just could never be so selfish. Seems most people on here don't really have any ties to other members of their wider family and would just grab whatever they could for themselves no matter the circumstances.

To be clear, I consider the brother just as bad, but he did lend the money and the OP thinks being a single mother makes her more worthy and it really isn’t anyone’s fault but her own that she is skint and had a kid where her brothers are financially more secure.

I wouldn’t give the discount to either of them.

OutsideLookingOut · 20/06/2024 17:15

Riversideandrelax · 20/06/2024 17:12

I just don't think like that. I'm maybe less self centred. It seems selfish to me.

That is just another form of self-centeredness. You could say the OP is selfish and self-centred for not allowing her brother two tickets since she has been using two tickets for 5 years! Personally makes more sense to alternate the two tickets yearly.

Riversideandrelax · 20/06/2024 17:16

HollyKnight · 20/06/2024 16:55

Not if she wants to go as often and for the same price. Hence why I said go less and for cheaper.

Presumably she can't go any less or cheaper hence her saying she'd not be able to make use of one spot.

Hoppy1985 · 20/06/2024 17:17

Riversideandrelax · 20/06/2024 17:12

I just don't think like that. I'm maybe less self centred. It seems selfish to me.

@Riversideandrelax but how did you know the other brother didn't give up opportunities early on because he lent his hard earned money to little brother so he could become a pilot?

OP shouldn't assume she should get the discount, other brother shouldn't assume she doesn't.

Riversideandrelax · 20/06/2024 17:17

worrieddaughter97 · 20/06/2024 17:09

I think she shouldn't have either - less holidays and more time working on her career, perhaps?

Well, fair enough, if that's your opinion.

AgnesX · 20/06/2024 17:17

Wayda · 20/06/2024 13:08

But my other brother is in his late 20s, no kids, no partner. And earns more than me.

I spend a lot of time out of the house to provide for my child and those cheap holidays are precious as they allow us to reconnect.

Brother would be able to absorb the lack of discount, I won’t. He can still go away often regardless. For me the discount is make or break.

It's like inheritance, circumstances shouldn't count.

One spot apiece is fair.

Riversideandrelax · 20/06/2024 17:19

worrieddaughter97 · 20/06/2024 17:13

Oh please.

She's not entitled to a holiday because she's a single mum.

Where did I say she was? I said I find non-pilot brother selfish and can't understand his attitude.

countcalculia · 20/06/2024 17:19

Riversideandrelax · 20/06/2024 17:11

I've not said he should? He has also benefited for 5 years.

I've not said he should?

Er, you said I don't understand why he wouldn't of his own free will pass on the benefit to his niece/nephew.

He has also benefited for 5 years.

No he hasn't.

countcalculia · 20/06/2024 17:20

Riversideandrelax · 20/06/2024 17:12

I just don't think like that. I'm maybe less self centred. It seems selfish to me.

Seriously, don't praise yourself to randoms, it's embarrassing.

HollyKnight · 20/06/2024 17:20

Riversideandrelax · 20/06/2024 17:16

Presumably she can't go any less or cheaper hence her saying she'd not be able to make use of one spot.

Nah. That's nonsense. She can save up for the price of a child's flight. The money she would save on accommodation, activities and food by not going on one holiday would easily pay the cost of a flight on another holiday. She just doesn't want to give up the holiday lifestyle she has become accustomed to.

Hoppy1985 · 20/06/2024 17:21

countcalculia · 20/06/2024 17:19

I've not said he should?

Er, you said I don't understand why he wouldn't of his own free will pass on the benefit to his niece/nephew.

He has also benefited for 5 years.

No he hasn't.

@countcalculia If you re-read OP's post he has. It's about who will "keep" the cheap flights.

Riversideandrelax · 20/06/2024 17:21

Arewealljustloosingtheplot · 20/06/2024 17:14

To be clear, I consider the brother just as bad, but he did lend the money and the OP thinks being a single mother makes her more worthy and it really isn’t anyone’s fault but her own that she is skint and had a kid where her brothers are financially more secure.

I wouldn’t give the discount to either of them.

How do you know it's 'no-ones fault but her own?' Illness, disability, death. People don't choose those.

countcalculia · 20/06/2024 17:22

Hoppy1985 · 20/06/2024 17:21

@countcalculia If you re-read OP's post he has. It's about who will "keep" the cheap flights.

Ah ok, my bad.

Riversideandrelax · 20/06/2024 17:24

countcalculia · 20/06/2024 17:19

I've not said he should?

Er, you said I don't understand why he wouldn't of his own free will pass on the benefit to his niece/nephew.

He has also benefited for 5 years.

No he hasn't.

Exactly - I said I don't understand why he wouldn't I never said anything about what he should do.

And yes, he has! Re read the OP!

Longtimelurkerfinallyposts · 20/06/2024 17:24

Does your child's father (or the grandparents on his side) contribute towards the costs of their living/ holidays? Could they?

Can you not try 'connecting' with your child in the UK, without taking planet-trashing flights every single year?

Arewealljustloosingtheplot · 20/06/2024 17:24

Riversideandrelax · 20/06/2024 17:21

How do you know it's 'no-ones fault but her own?' Illness, disability, death. People don't choose those.

No. But we can choose how we respond.

Riversideandrelax · 20/06/2024 17:26

countcalculia · 20/06/2024 17:20

Seriously, don't praise yourself to randoms, it's embarrassing.

I beg your pardon? 'Praise myself to randoms?' How odd!

I was responding to a poster asking why I found it hard to understand the brothers desire to keep the benefit for himself.