DS threw bully’s phone in lake

[CandidBeaker]

DS, 13, and his friend were being bullied by some other children in the park yesterday and a girl was filming him having his books thrown on the floor so he grabbed the phone from her and threw it into the lake. She hit him and then they all ran over to the lake and DS and his friend came home.

I received an angry voicemail from her mum this morning demanding that I pay for a replacement. I was fuming. I’m not paying for a new phone when she was the one who caused it herself by joining in harassing my son. It’s called karma. If she thinks I’m buying a new one she can fuck off. AIBU?

I needed an expensive car reparation as a result (2 guys fighting in my street and my car in the way. Electronic wing mirror ripped off and window smashed in). Dealer needed to order the part so I was left without car for over a week... which was extra crap as I have 2 disabled children, weekly hospital appointments and a long commute. Had to cancel appointments as a result. Luckily I was able to WFH. But still, couldn't care less! useless bunch

If the mother and her bully of a daughter pursue the issue, buy her the shittiest second hand phone you can find and say it's all you can afford.

For everyone saying Bullying is not a crime, that is factually incorrect. The law covers these instances:

-violence or assault
-theft
-repeated harassment or intimidation, for example name calling, threats and abusive phone calls, emails or text messages
hate crimes

People should not put up with Bullying. I'd say no and advise if she's wants to take it any further and there any further instances of Bullying, you'll be going to the police.

https://www.gov.uk/bullying-at-school

The only thing we know is that your son threw her phone into the lake yet she is the one getting called a bully.

She didn't assault him she was watching and possibly filming. I suspect if anything he assaulted her in order to get her phone off her, I doubt she gave it to him willingly. She shouldn't have been filming what was happening, but that is no reason to throw her phone in the lake and that was probably the only real evidence of what actually happened. No one comes out shining from this.

I wouldn't be paying. Doubt the police will care and as for insurance chasing you over it 😂 give over.

Give over!!! And what about the little asshole who recorded while he was having his books thrown on the floor?!

Tell your DS WELL DONE!

She did. In OPs post she said the girl hit him after he threw the phone. It might have been after the event, buy she did assault him.

Parents are responsible for damage done by their kids regardless of whether they're 13 or older. That's the law.

Hopefully the bully (and their friends) have learned a lesson. Pretty sure they won’t pursue with police etc as their bullying and video actions are also criminal.

I don't know what it's like in the UK but over here they take someone filming bullying just as serious as those doing the physical harm especially when its for malicious purposes. Lots of kids at our school had been expelled for filming and sharing fights.

Who cares about the sex, girls can be bloody vicious.

Play stupid games: win stupid prizes. I wouldn't be buying her a replacement phone. If her parents want to sue for the cost of it then let them do that.

Only if it can be proven to be the result of the parents negligence. Otherwise, they are not automatically responsible for the financial damage.

Well done to your son!

She won't do it again now will she?

The mum can get fucked. Call it the price you pay for having a little shit of a daughter. Someone who thinks it's funny, or appropriate, to film the bullying of a kid.

How does the mother know your phone number? Do you know her?

This!
The footage of the alleged bullying would solve things.Do phones upload stuff to Cloud immediately?

I don't think it's acceptable to throw someone's phone in the lake, regardless of who or what they were filming. It could be a matter for the police. But I understand why you don't want to pay her.

@CandidBeaker what goes around comes around! no sympathy for her and her drowned phone! she seems the type of person who would film someone being beated up before posting it on the internet!

If filming somebody who is being attacked/victimised in a compromising position - with a device that is capable of storing and disseminating the images/videos across the world in seconds - is not illegal, why all the 'fuss' about things like upskirting and revenge porn?

You got a voicenote?
Id just ignore it. You dont have to respond. Dont delete, but do ignore.
and tell your DS to tell the wee missy take a running jump if she says anything to him again.

The court cost is even lower if the phone was less than £500. Small claims fees start at £35 for a claim of up to £300, £50 for up to £500 and £70 for up to £1,000.

Thats what I don't know.

@ObsidianTree has it. If the footage is retrieved and shows he wasn't provoked, you'll pay.

Well done to your son.

If he is able to pay within 6 years he can be made to do so.

I hope you don't work for the CPS!