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To opt out of this insane work practice?

378 replies

Acunningruse · 18/06/2024 10:58

I started a new role 3 months ago. Everyone else in the team has been there for years and they are a very established group (but have been very welcoming to me). I discovered the other day, that the "rule" in the team is that when it is someone's birthday, everyone buys them a card, you write it and send it TO THEIR HOME ADDRESS!

I just cannot get my head around this. There are 12 of us in the team. It is just so wasteful- 11 individual cards and stamps whereas we could just send one- or better yet- give it to them in the office!!! We see each other every week!

The waste is huge not to mention the fact that I can barely remember my own family's birthdays, let alone 11 people I've just met?

These are lovely women and the last thing I want to do is cause offence but I really do not want to participate in this. How can I opt out without causing offence?

OP posts:
Biker47 · 19/06/2024 18:34

Sounds like hell, I'd just say you don't want to partake in it, ultimately so what if they don't like that.

Summertimer · 19/06/2024 18:34

I’m wondering if this is another bot type thread. It’s fairly unusual for work team members to send individual cards in the post. The giving out of addresses is wrong, the posting cards feels odd.

Having set up a thread like this, all the people who open cards and then instantly recycle them in the recycling bin without displaying them on the sideboard, the others who don’t wait until the day of their birthday to open cards, all that crowd flock to offer their offbeat approach.

Cards and the environment - just recycle them and don’t stop posting stuff because the postman isn’t Paula Venels and you’d really miss the Post Office if all you got was Evri and Hermes.

godmum56 · 19/06/2024 18:36

Username1010 · 19/06/2024 18:11

Part of working in a team is doing things for the greater good and all round better environment.

I’d take writing birthday cards over a corporate team building day out every time.

No. No it isn't.

Summertimer · 19/06/2024 18:38

DutchCowgirl · 19/06/2024 09:04

We have standard small “feedback cards” lying around with the company logo on it… people can write them if you want to give a compliment or share something .
I’d write one of those as a compromise.

It’s fine to have such a weird cultural thing in your team if everybody enjoys it, but it’s also ok to change things over the years. I’ve had teams were people sang birthday songs and held babyshowers and stagparties … or teams that barely manage to have 1 drink at the pub once a year.

I think you’d risk someone complaining to H R about you if you used a feedback card. That’s offensive

Noodles1234 · 19/06/2024 18:39

Suggest doing one big card and someone brings in cake.

I can’t fathom if it’s sweet and I’m being tight, or it’s a bit overboard for work friends.

not sure I’d like my home address going out to people I barely knew.

Summertimer · 19/06/2024 18:41

YearsofYears · 18/06/2024 22:45

'I don't do cards, so no need to include me.' And repeat and repeat and repeat.

I my workplace we do e-cards for retirement, leaving dos and for special birthdays on the team. It's enough :)

E cards for a retirement 😠 is it an e leaving present as well 😂

Summertimer · 19/06/2024 18:42

CecilyP · 18/06/2024 19:33

It’s a work team not a social club! Long term it will be harder to get out of and OP will be making it easier for new staff who come after her.

It’s old fashioned friendly and team building

Summertimer · 19/06/2024 18:46

Bjorkdidit · 18/06/2024 19:45

Please. Make. it. stop.

Can the people telling the OP how to send birthday cards please explain what pleasure is gained from receiving a duty card like this that wouldn't be achieved with a 'Morning Mary, Happy Birthday, are you doing anything nice to celebrate' conversation?

'Morning Mary, Happy Birthday, are you doing anything nice to celebrate' conversation?

So what that actually says is “I’m just a colleague who doesn’t know why I should give a shit, because no one’s ever explained about the niceties of life”

TheThingsTheySay · 19/06/2024 18:47

I have neurodiversity issues and can barely remember the birthdays of important people, let alone those of strangers. I know it’ll sound bonkers to some people but this commitment would be enough to massively send me into a tailspin. It strikes me as an ‘unregulated’ rule that has been created in OP’s workplace that is in no way official and therefore i don’t think she should feel obliged to take part. It may be another thing if it was mentioned in a job ad or in an interview as a ‘fun thing we do’ but, assuming it wasn’t i wouldn’t have a problem baling out if it. A lot of people are saying it’s only a birthday card (or 12) but being coerced into something other people find nice but you don’t (and it could even cause you major stress) isn’t good work practice. I’d definitely want to chat to my manager or HR about it, especially if I thought I might be treated differently in some way if I ended up saying I didn’t want to take part in it.

Summertimer · 19/06/2024 18:48

Noodles1234 · 19/06/2024 18:39

Suggest doing one big card and someone brings in cake.

I can’t fathom if it’s sweet and I’m being tight, or it’s a bit overboard for work friends.

not sure I’d like my home address going out to people I barely knew.

What my team does is buy a card, a gift and cake collectively. Some colleagues are closer friends and they send me individual cards - sometimes to my address and sometimes given to me at work

myladybelle · 19/06/2024 18:51

Acunningruse · 18/06/2024 11:07

Yes, they are all really sweet, and I do get people saying its only a few pence for a card, which is true, its more the waste particularly in posting it. If I did join in I wouldnt post it I would leave in their tray, that could be a compromise. I think its more the mental load of having to remember 11 extra birthdays, get cards etc. I know its a cliche but I would bet my house that nowhere is there a group of men at work sat around saying "right have you sent John the card for his birthday yet".

Just put it in your work calendar and do it at work. Treat it like a work task. So you now buy your stack of cards, 12 stamps; and then you do it from the office on the relevant day. Maybe you can even mail out from the office?

myladybelle · 19/06/2024 18:51

SerendipityJane · 18/06/2024 12:06

52 replies and no concern about identity theft ?

Are you for real

LilMagpie · 19/06/2024 19:01

TheThingsTheySay · 19/06/2024 18:47

I have neurodiversity issues and can barely remember the birthdays of important people, let alone those of strangers. I know it’ll sound bonkers to some people but this commitment would be enough to massively send me into a tailspin. It strikes me as an ‘unregulated’ rule that has been created in OP’s workplace that is in no way official and therefore i don’t think she should feel obliged to take part. It may be another thing if it was mentioned in a job ad or in an interview as a ‘fun thing we do’ but, assuming it wasn’t i wouldn’t have a problem baling out if it. A lot of people are saying it’s only a birthday card (or 12) but being coerced into something other people find nice but you don’t (and it could even cause you major stress) isn’t good work practice. I’d definitely want to chat to my manager or HR about it, especially if I thought I might be treated differently in some way if I ended up saying I didn’t want to take part in it.

Same. I know that I would probably remember for the first 3 or 4 birthdays that I’m there, then I’ll inevitably forget and it will be even more offensive/embarrassing that I did it for some colleagues and not for others.

Wildmushroom · 19/06/2024 19:16

I agree it seems silly when you could all just sign a card and present it to them at work….maybe put the money you would have spent on an individual card and stamps on a small gift for them?
would you feel able to suggest that?

DutchCowgirl · 19/06/2024 19:21

Summertimer · 19/06/2024 18:38

I think you’d risk someone complaining to H R about you if you used a feedback card. That’s offensive

Really why? We have all sorts with balloons on them and flowers when you want to give a compliment. I cant see anything offensive in it.

Tomasinabombadil · 19/06/2024 19:55

Gazelda · 18/06/2024 11:07

There's no way I'd be sharing my home address with people I barely know.

Agree with you @Gazelda.
I’m retired now but when I was working the only people in a company who knew my full address were the HR & Wages departments, even if I’d worked there for years. Not even my line managers were privy to my address, only my landline home phone number.

godmum56 · 19/06/2024 19:58

Summertimer · 19/06/2024 18:46

'Morning Mary, Happy Birthday, are you doing anything nice to celebrate' conversation?

So what that actually says is “I’m just a colleague who doesn’t know why I should give a shit, because no one’s ever explained about the niceties of life”

yup colleagues....not friends families or besties.

godmum56 · 19/06/2024 20:00

TheThingsTheySay · 19/06/2024 18:47

I have neurodiversity issues and can barely remember the birthdays of important people, let alone those of strangers. I know it’ll sound bonkers to some people but this commitment would be enough to massively send me into a tailspin. It strikes me as an ‘unregulated’ rule that has been created in OP’s workplace that is in no way official and therefore i don’t think she should feel obliged to take part. It may be another thing if it was mentioned in a job ad or in an interview as a ‘fun thing we do’ but, assuming it wasn’t i wouldn’t have a problem baling out if it. A lot of people are saying it’s only a birthday card (or 12) but being coerced into something other people find nice but you don’t (and it could even cause you major stress) isn’t good work practice. I’d definitely want to chat to my manager or HR about it, especially if I thought I might be treated differently in some way if I ended up saying I didn’t want to take part in it.

This. Plain common sense from @TheThingsTheySay

Summertimer · 19/06/2024 20:11

godmum56 · 19/06/2024 19:58

yup colleagues....not friends families or besties.

Classic 😂 where do you people meet your friends? Who lives to not be nice to people?

Summertimer · 19/06/2024 20:12

DutchCowgirl · 19/06/2024 19:21

Really why? We have all sorts with balloons on them and flowers when you want to give a compliment. I cant see anything offensive in it.

Duh as a deliberate act of not buying a card

TortolaParadise · 19/06/2024 20:35

Perhaps keep your address private as you don't really know your colleagues well.

Suzypoo10 · 19/06/2024 20:40

I used to go out and buy a card for the birthday person, get everyone to contribute 10-15p or so to cover the card and get them all to sign it. So everyone gets one card, signed by the whole team.

Newestname002 · 19/06/2024 20:48

keylimedog · 18/06/2024 11:03

I don't think I'd want to give everyone my home address tbh 😂

I'm with you! It's one thing if you make friends outside with one or two colleagues, but having the whole team know where I live/have my address - rather than the general location - isn't something I want. I prefer to maintain a certain distance wherever possible, especially possible dropper inners from my workplace. Also isn't there a data protection issue? 🌹

Summertimer · 19/06/2024 20:50

Suzypoo10 · 19/06/2024 20:40

I used to go out and buy a card for the birthday person, get everyone to contribute 10-15p or so to cover the card and get them all to sign it. So everyone gets one card, signed by the whole team.

This is what most offices do

godmum56 · 19/06/2024 21:00

Summertimer · 19/06/2024 20:11

Classic 😂 where do you people meet your friends? Who lives to not be nice to people?

when (if) any of them became my friends then I would have treated them like my friends. I used to go to work to do a job, not to have a social life.

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