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To opt out of this insane work practice?

378 replies

Acunningruse · 18/06/2024 10:58

I started a new role 3 months ago. Everyone else in the team has been there for years and they are a very established group (but have been very welcoming to me). I discovered the other day, that the "rule" in the team is that when it is someone's birthday, everyone buys them a card, you write it and send it TO THEIR HOME ADDRESS!

I just cannot get my head around this. There are 12 of us in the team. It is just so wasteful- 11 individual cards and stamps whereas we could just send one- or better yet- give it to them in the office!!! We see each other every week!

The waste is huge not to mention the fact that I can barely remember my own family's birthdays, let alone 11 people I've just met?

These are lovely women and the last thing I want to do is cause offence but I really do not want to participate in this. How can I opt out without causing offence?

OP posts:
Balkanbabies · 18/06/2024 21:34

Buy 12 cards now, write the names on a calender and keep them in your drawer at work?

PrincessTeaSet · 18/06/2024 21:34

Acunningruse · 18/06/2024 11:41

Oh my God I had not even thought about Christmas 😮feel like I should start mentally preparing now..

Urgh I would leave before Christmas

Goinggreymammy · 18/06/2024 21:39

Not sure if you've answered this but how do they know everybody's birthday and home address? Did people ask you for yours? Are you supposed to go round and ask everyone their birthday and address. That's crazy.
If HR are supplying them it's a breach of GDPR.
If you want to opt out....
When people ask for your details say that you are not comfortable sharing addresses so will just do cards at work (if you have to do them at all!)

Bjorkdidit · 18/06/2024 21:51

SaulHudsonDavidJones · 18/06/2024 20:30

Absolutely agree with you. I go to work to do my job. A man wouldn't do this.

Exactly. There's probably barely a man alive who's taken part in this sort of shit to this level at work.

And it's not stopped a single one of them progressing at their workplace or affected relationships with co-workers, male or female.

Bjorkdidit · 18/06/2024 21:52

Balkanbabies · 18/06/2024 21:34

Buy 12 cards now, write the names on a calender and keep them in your drawer at work?

Genius. I don't know how we could have possibly got through over 200 posts and no-one's thought of that yet. Oh wait........

dutysuite · 18/06/2024 21:52

No I couldn’t be bothered with this and it would make me feel slightly stressed. I’d happily just say leave me out of it.

Wotcher · 18/06/2024 21:53

For me it would be the sheer hassle that would do me in. I don’t post things. I don’t buy stamps. I don’t visit the post office.

I’d have to make note to make a special effort to get stamps, then to buy the card, then to write it and walk it to the post box.

ELEVEN TIMES A YEAR!

Nah. Stress I don’t need.

Skyrainlight · 18/06/2024 21:54

'Insane' seems like a bit of an overstatement.

Bjorkdidit · 18/06/2024 21:56

Not to mention the absolute environmental waste of sending 11 cards a year with no real thought or sentiment behind them

And it's not just 11 cards a year, but there's 12 of them at it don't forget. Which would mean 132 cards going round just this one office each year before ending up in the bin.

poolemoney · 18/06/2024 21:59

Bjorkdidit · 18/06/2024 21:52

Genius. I don't know how we could have possibly got through over 200 posts and no-one's thought of that yet. Oh wait........

🤣

swapcicles · 18/06/2024 22:00

My last workplace was like this, I'd noticed pressies given to a couple of different staff on their birthday but didn't really take much notice as presumed they were just extra friendly with each other.
My birthday rolls around and I get a gift from each of the girls, then it's explained that it's a thing they do for everyone's birthday.
I mean it's a lovely thought but I couldn't and still struggle to afford my own shit not to mention 5/6 other people's gifts too, especially at Christmas!
Plus the fact that I hate cards, my family give scratch cards instead.

MadameMassiveSalad · 18/06/2024 22:20

How is posting a card a waste?
I'd just get over it.

Crispsarethebestfood · 18/06/2024 22:20

Acunningruse · 18/06/2024 11:08

Yes I think this would be the compromise. But no doubt they will want my address to post mine!

And that is when you can say ‘no, honestly, give me it in the office like I do for you’.

EdithGrantham · 18/06/2024 22:37

Acunningruse · 18/06/2024 11:07

Yes, they are all really sweet, and I do get people saying its only a few pence for a card, which is true, its more the waste particularly in posting it. If I did join in I wouldnt post it I would leave in their tray, that could be a compromise. I think its more the mental load of having to remember 11 extra birthdays, get cards etc. I know its a cliche but I would bet my house that nowhere is there a group of men at work sat around saying "right have you sent John the card for his birthday yet".

Buy 11 cards and write them all, mark on the envelope "To be opened on your birthday" and distribute them all now. Job done until next year!

YearsofYears · 18/06/2024 22:45

'I don't do cards, so no need to include me.' And repeat and repeat and repeat.

I my workplace we do e-cards for retirement, leaving dos and for special birthdays on the team. It's enough :)

TwixOwl · 18/06/2024 22:56

I don't get why they need to be posted, can you not just hand to the physical person present??

Colinorpercy · 19/06/2024 00:05

I bet there’s an elaborate secret Santa at Xmas….see you back here in 6 months @Acunningruse 😜

Grendell · 19/06/2024 00:21

How do the men in the group feel about this? Do they participate? Or do they get their wives to mail them?

clary · 19/06/2024 00:22

Oh god I couldn't do this. I hate birthday cards and no longer buy them. In my office it's a big thing to sign a card to anyone who has a birthday... there are about 100 people so it's more or less every day, What's the point?

Cards are so wasteful and so pointless, now that it is so very very easy to send a personal message electronically. I would genuinely much rather have that.

And pennies? do you all know how much a first class stamp costs? £1.35 plus a £2 card x 11 is nearly £40! I'd rather buy myself a new pair of shoes tbh.

Tbry24 · 19/06/2024 00:29

Well I actually think it sounds really nice and a friendly place to work, I’d really love that.

It’s probably done this way so if people have the day or week off for their birthday they get their cards.

I would pick out 11 pretty cards once per year kept in drawer with dates, quite easy.

Ohgoodlord · 19/06/2024 01:40

Hell would freeze over before I did this. Nothing could make me participate in such nonsense.

GoneFishingToday · 19/06/2024 02:00

From my own experience I would simply refuse to post them on the grounds that all too often the mail doesn't arrive on time, if at all. I had a card posted 1st class, a full week before my birthday last year, it eventually arrived 6 weeks after the event!

Also, having been in hospital for major surgery, my DM who lived a long way away sent me a 'Get Well' card the minute she heard that I'd got through the operation OK. That one arrived 18 months later!!

It would be a card in their 'in' box or nothing for me OP.

AlwaysTheRenegade · 19/06/2024 02:02

I think I'd just hand them the card, they won't say "you have to post it!!" . What a weird practice! Plus, people saying it's a few pounds, just post the card..have you bought a stamp lately?! 😂 if I've got a fiver left by the end of the month I'm so happy.

CecilyP · 19/06/2024 08:48

I’m trying to imagine it from the opposite point of view. You’re off on your birthday and all the cards come through the letter box. First, you’d be impressing the postman with your popularity, then what?

Ah, here’s one from Carol, how lovely.
This one’s from, Jane, nice card!
Louise, I see she’s gone for the 4 for a pound deal, the cheapskate!
One from Emma, what a nice thought(except you know it wasn’t a thought but an obligation).

And so on, 8 more times. Somewhere in the pile will a card or 2 from friends and family who actually want to send you one!

If you’re at work on your birthday, people will already have wished you happy birthday, then you come home to a whole bunch of unnecessary cards from them!

godmum56 · 19/06/2024 08:51

5128gap · 18/06/2024 21:09

Buy a pack of birthday cards. Sign your name on 11 of them. Keep them in your desk drawer. When a birthday comes round, write the name on the envelope and stick it in their tray. As 'mental loads' go, it's a pretty light one.

As I have already said, thats reducing it to the level of dull life admin like sending in meter readings or booking an mot and thst to me is ruder than politely refusing to join in.