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To want to cut off Mother/Ask how to do it?

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CollyWobble99 · 17/06/2024 21:23

I’ve always had a difficult relationship with both of my parents.

My father was a very physical discipline kind of guy, and very sexist, racist, homophobic, all the ‘Isms’ basically but he worked away a lot and I didn’t really see him much.

My mother was.. changeable. Very explosive emotionally, very violent, prone to outbursts and regularly beat the crap out of me. I remember being beaten with pool cues, cricket bats, slapped, punched, kicked, spat on, hair pulled, I had boiling hot drinks thrown on me, I got locked in the front porch with both doors locked so I couldn’t go anywhere or even go to toilet, starved for days etc etc.

I was also sexually abused by my mothers father, a man she had idolised all my life so I wasn’t able to say anything to her or anyone, about it. When he died I got absolutely paralytic at his funeral because I was so fucking triggered by everyone he saying what a wonderful guy he was.

I learned later that actually he had also sexually abused my mother and some (not all) of her siblings. It started with her at a certain age so presumably she thought I’d be safe as I was younger, but she sent me off on holidays with her parents, I spent whole weekends and half terms at their house and they took me away to their caravan in a different country for weeks at a time. I wasn’t safe, obviously.

She made no secret of the fact that she got pregnant with me to get my dad to marry her, so she could leave her fathers house to escape his abuse. Apparently she was ecstatic to learn she was pregnant. But she hated me once I was actually here. Clearly resented me. Anytime my own father stuck up for me she punished him too and he always relented, and let her do whatever she wanted.

She had multiple affairs when I was growing up and to the best of my knowledge I’m still the only one who knows about them. She used me as a cover and told me if I ever told my dad about them, then it would be my fault my younger siblings would lose their father and their home.

I developed a drinking problem as a teenager which I’ve since managed to kick. I’m have always suffered MH issues, anxiety, depression and cptsd all of which I’m seeking help for.

She’s never once been able to see anyone else’s pain or point of view, she is incredibly self centred.
If it doesn’t involve her feelings, then it doesn’t matter.

I had successfully cut her off for years and my older kids had nothing to do with her. Then she got really ill and my siblings didn’t think she was going to make it, so
I went to the hospital to see her. She ended up surviving but is in a horrible state health wise, but now she’s back in my life I don’t know how to get rid of her.

I hate her being around. I can’t stand the sound of her voice. The last time I spent any length of time with her (I went to her house, the one I grew up in, to try and help tidy and declutter for the carers, and ended up going home and attempting suicide. All the triggers were just too much)

I don’t know if she genuinely has any regrets or if she just wants someone to care for her now she’s getting more frail, but I don’t want any part of it.

She’s been doing this weird, smothering thing where she’s messaging me every day now, trying to buy me things, offering to babysit, being complimentary (she denigrated every aspect of my looks and personality growing up) anything and everything to be near to me and imho, make up for some of the shit. I remember literally being beaten just for being a ‘Fucking weirdo’ (I liked to read aloud to myself, I found it comforting. I chewed my hair, I repeated excerpts of tv and films I’d seen that stuck in my mind for some reason. I had tics and did other socially unacceptable things and was often beaten for being embarrassing to her )

I just don’t want it. I have a visceral reaction to her and it genuinely makes me physically sick when she’s around.

She was diagnosed as autistic in her early 60s so I’ve really been trying to cut her some slack. I was ‘late’ diagnosed as AuDhd in my late 30s so I’ve really been trying hard to be gentle with her because of that and what she went through herself as a child, but I don’t feel I can take it, mentally or physically. I have 6 children myself, 4 of which are also ND. All of my energy is going into not repeating generational trauma, trying my hardest to be the parent my kids need and maintaining my relationship with my (frankly wonderful, angelic husband)

I really wanted to try and care for her in the way I know she must have missed out on herself as a child, but after all this time I just don’t feel I have it in me anymore. She doesn’t care about anyone else’s feelings, or the effort anyone else makes, she’s never once been concerned with difficult times I’ve had (or my siblings)

We were left to fend for ourselves from a very young age but she still wants this picture perfect mum and child relationship with us all. I know she is ND. I know she is traumatised. But do I have to keep trying to fight all of my own trauma in order to be a good daughter?

I really want to be able to cut her out of my life for my own peace and safety but I don’t want my siblings to suffer or be put in an awkward position.

I’m not sure what I’m asking. I think I’m asking is it ok to prioritise myself at this point, knowing how hard she has/had it too and didn’t have anyone looking out for her? Will I survive the guilt if I just.. stop? I

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Sparticusoctopus · 17/11/2024 06:17

I’m drinking imaginary champagne and toasting you.

Toxic people steal your mental
health. I think, as women in particular, we are socialised to give and care, give and care, give and care. Be selfless and kind. Pacify and peacemake.

Well I am happy to do that with people that do it for me. I’m no longer prepared to do it for people that don’t spend one tiny bit of their time and energy doing the same.

So if you were my grown up child and you suddenly pulled out of my life you would get a couple of texts asking if you are ok. I might pop round and ask if you are ok. If I kept getting the cold shoulder I would write you a letter. I’d describe what I am noticing. Let you know that I’m wondering if I’d hurt you in any way or upset you and let you know it would be fine to say and I’m happy to chat. If then let you know that I’d be here for you if you need me but that I’ll leave you to come to me. I’d then perhaps send you semi regular cards restating that I I’m happy to talk and here for you.

Because as a parent you are always a parent. Even when your children are grown up.

I have a narcissistic mother. I get it.

Sparticusoctopus · 17/11/2024 06:23

Also;

You sound, understandably, traumatised. Try and get some EMDR - your GP might be able to refer.

Also plenty of people have ND diagnoses or mental health diagnoses or their own childhood trauma but manage not to abuse their children.

Hold tight. Don’t give in to her attempts to worm her way back in.

You matter too and you deserved and deserve better.

ButtonsB · 17/11/2024 06:55

Fantastic update OP.
Now she knows.
You were simple and clear.
Well done.
The opportunity arose and you took it.

There is no need for any further engagement after that.
Tell your children so there is no confusion.
She is not welcome in or near your home.

Tell them adult relationships can be very hard and while it may be difficult for them to fully understand, you have no wish for any further contact with your mother.

Congratulations on your bravery, every step counts.

Slowtopic · 17/11/2024 14:45

Delighted to read this - well done. You don’t need any more upset.

CollyWobble99 · 17/11/2024 21:46

Thank you all so much for your kindness and support, it’s been really helpful and is keeping me focused and strong.

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CollyWobble99 · 26/12/2024 00:11

I did it. I managed a whole substantial event. She completely ignored my kids and they didn’t even notice. I know that she’s probably raging and thinking that she’s giving me the cold shoulder but we’ve had the best Christmas that we’ve had in years .

I actually had a great time.

Youngest brother came over for Xmas eve and no one even mentioned her.Thank you all for helping me stand strong. I hope you’ve all had a wonderful Christmas xx

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mollyfolk · 26/12/2024 00:44

God I am so sorry that your mother abused you.

You sound like you were lucky to survive it with your wits about you. You don't owe her anything just because she gave birth to you. Being a mother is so much more than that.

mollyfolk · 26/12/2024 00:49

@CollyWobble99

She’s as damaged as I am, the difference is I’ve never abused my children as a form of release which is what I see now she was doing to me.

Well done to you for not continuing the cycle. Of course there will be some kind of context to her abuse - abused herself, autistic.... but these are not reasons for you to forgive her. You don't take any responsibility for her behaviour.

It's ok to let her go and mind yourself and your own family.

JennyTals · 26/12/2024 00:57

I don’t thjnk she’s trying to makeshift upto you at all
she use wants to be able to use you now she’s old and unwell

well she can go to hell !!!

get away from her and never go back even the next time dishes in deaths doors

hiws she’s treated is disgusting and all the closure you ever need

sorry you been though this op
wishing you all the best for a new start in 2025
don’t let the bastards grind you down xxxx

therewasafishinthepercolator · 26/12/2024 01:04

That's brilliant. You deserve to feel this newfound peace. You sound like a remarkable person tbh. Strong. I'm so happy for you. Merry Christmas!

Sparticusoctopus · 26/12/2024 07:52

That update has made me so happy. Well done for being so strong.

WidgetDigit2022 · 26/12/2024 08:25

“Mother, you have always been the nastiest influence in my life. I want nothing to do with you.”

Then stop all contact.

OriginalUsername2 · 29/12/2024 14:25

This is huge progress OP!

Nothing better than a toxicity-free Christmas after years and years of shit. It shows you how nice life can be.

ButtonsB · 29/12/2024 15:45

I am so delighted for you and your family.

Shake off this year and bounce into 2025 with nothing but peace and calm to look forward to.

NC is such a blessing.
Every good wish for next year.
Be so proud of yourself and your bravery.
Wonderful modelling for your children and brother.

CollyWobble99 · 15/06/2025 18:59

I’m so sorry to resurrect an old thread but I’ve had a (very minor) issue and am spiralling a bit. I managed Mother’s Day without any contact but did have a bit of a stressful time around that period just because I was so aware of how she would be feeling and wobbled but got through it.

One of my children had a significant event this week and my mother managed to call me from an unknown phone number. I wasn’t expecting it, and I answered the call. I only spoke to her briefly, not even realising initially that it was her as the line was bad and crackly. She made a big show of being sniffly and doing that sad sounding voice that makes you want to feel sorry for her that I’m very familiar with. I said we (me and child) weren’t available to talk as we were busy, which was true but it’s the day after now and although I’ve blocked that number aswell I’ve got that horrible feeling in my stomach again and I’m stressing that she will never leave me alone me and I’ll never really have peace. I’m 100% positive that I’m doing the right thing for myself and my family by not being in contact but I can’t seem to stop the feelings of guilt and shame and being affected by her obvious upset. I feel like the perpetrator even though I know that I’m not and I still feel responsible and like I’m the only one that can make it better. If I do try it will cost me and if I don’t try it will cost me. How do make peace with this? Talk some sense into me please x

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CollyWobble99 · 15/06/2025 19:09

Reading that back I can see I’m catastrophising(?)

This too will pass.

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Pallisers · 15/06/2025 19:27

OP, yes this too will pass. Mind yourself and your loved ones. Not this awful awful woman.

You deserve to have a peaceful life and not have to deal with this. I wish you every good wish as you continue that peaceful life (and do like I do - don't pick up unknown numbers :) )

CollyWobble99 · 15/06/2025 19:32

Pallisers · 15/06/2025 19:27

OP, yes this too will pass. Mind yourself and your loved ones. Not this awful awful woman.

You deserve to have a peaceful life and not have to deal with this. I wish you every good wish as you continue that peaceful life (and do like I do - don't pick up unknown numbers :) )

Thank you x I don’t usually but I’ve been waiting for an important call and thought that’s what it was. It’s sent me into a bit of a tailspin but I keep reiterating in my mind why i did this.

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CollyWobble99 · 15/06/2025 20:04

Is there anyone out there who’s cut off an abusive or emotionally immature parent with any tips on how to handle the aftermath?

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Beautifulbythebay · 15/06/2025 20:30

I cut dm off. She sent Woe Is Me letters which I binned unread bar the first line..
We had been nc for 10 years previously after her childish flounce. Managed 2 years of a basic strained relationship then I went nc.. Been 13 years and not hear a word since 2012....
I barred her number on my mobile and have no other phone.

SpryCat · 15/06/2025 21:18

Next time that ‘woman’ rings you from an unknown number, once you realise it’s her, end the call. You owe her nothing! She deserves you going NC. The reason she reaches out, is because she knows you’re a loving person and good people are easy to manipulate.
I think if you wrote down your childhood with how abusive she was and how she sent you to stay frequently with a paedo, next time she reaches out to your older DC or sends your youngest brother round, let them read it. They would understand that you need protection from her manipulation and instead of you hiding it, you’d bring that shame you’ve felt inside for so long and let it go. The person who should be on her knees, burning in shame because of her inhumane, abusive, savage actions/words toward towards you and how she sent you to stay with your GF knowing he would SA you!
I’m in awe @CollyWobble99 that you are such a wonderful mum even though you have been to hell and back as a child. I can tell by your previous posts, that you don’t feel strong inside but my goodness, you are!!

OhshitSharon · 15/06/2025 21:37

CollyWobble99 · 15/06/2025 20:04

Is there anyone out there who’s cut off an abusive or emotionally immature parent with any tips on how to handle the aftermath?

For me it was time, and therapy! It still unsettles me a bit if contact from her sneaks through, or even if something reminds me of her or I have a dream about her tbh, but it's definitely getting better/easier to handle as time goes on. I've learnt now that the feeling doesn't last, and the less oxygen/thought I give it the quicker it fades, and I've also accepted that this will happen from time to time and that it will pass and I will be ok.

It feels very unnatural to not have a relationship with one's own mother doesn't it but I've come to the conclusion that's mostly social conditioning/expectation because if I really examine the situation, the way she treated me and my true feelings I don't feel remotely guilty, it's more that I feel society expects me to if that makes sense?

The biggest benefit of therapy for me has been validation, I don't know if it's the same for you but I needed to hear someone say over and over that my feelings were justified and that her actions were wrong because I just couldn't shake the doubt that actually I was making a massive fuss about nothing and being horrifically cruel to my 'poor old mum'. I know now that was her voice in my head, years of having my feelings minimised and dismissed but I'm not sure I could have unpicked that on my own. I found that side of therapy incredibly powerful, having someone confirm that my feelings were valid and real and justified.

I've been really pleasantly surprised by my local NHS talking therapies service tbh, waiting times haven't been too long and my therapists (I've had two as I re-referred myself a second time) have both been excellent, although I obviously don't know if it's the same everywhere. Something to think about anyway if you're not already in therapy or can't afford private, it's been invaluable for me.

ButtonsB · 15/06/2025 23:37

OP, I think the difficult thing for many is they hope some day they will move on from it.
Some do but many others do only on a surface level and are unsettled if they run into them.

But that doesn't mean they don't move on.
NC is hard, but the peace is ultimately worth it.

It will become your norm.

Your mother was a true horror, far worse than many.
You cannot have her near your children.

Death is a blessing because it brings a peace knowing you will never have to deal with them again.

Accept this is hard, but for the best.
We are here for you.

Friendtotheanimals · 15/06/2025 23:58

Yes, CollyWobble99, I have gone NC from both my parents. My mother has many very difficult and dramatic personality traits. My father is her enabler.

Very long story (from childhood really) but in the end it was my mental health or my mother's which caused me to go NC. My siblings acted as flying monkeys as well and that led to significant distancing from them.

My mental and physical health are mostly better now. But the feelings of guilt never really go because that's how we were 'trained' from when we were very young.

The thing is to accept that the guilt is a residual hangover from our manipulative parent's training throughout our lives.

When something triggers that guilt reflex, can you mentally say something like, 'ok Brain, I see you're throwing up that old story in response to a trigger.' Then take some time out to do something nice for yourself. Don't cave in to her manipulations and instead commit to doing what is best for you, your husband and children.

I completely validate you. In my own case, I've been accused of being a terrible mental health professional by my family of origin because I am NC with my parents. (Always great to have your credentials undermined by people who have a vested interest in keeping you in line. Oh well. They are mostly still in the FOG.) My husband gets it completely.

Might I also suggest you take a look at the website Out of the Fog? As well as the wonderful support you have been given here on Mumsnet, I believe you will find excellent support there too.

Best of luck. You don't owe her anything. It's your life now.

CollyWobble99 · 16/06/2025 08:52

Thank you, lots of good advice here. I will take a look at the website suggested too. I’m feeling calmer today, it’s scary just how much a simple encounter like that can shake me. Still, it’s over now. Deep breaths and carry on x

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