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To want to cut off Mother/Ask how to do it?

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CollyWobble99 · 17/06/2024 21:23

I’ve always had a difficult relationship with both of my parents.

My father was a very physical discipline kind of guy, and very sexist, racist, homophobic, all the ‘Isms’ basically but he worked away a lot and I didn’t really see him much.

My mother was.. changeable. Very explosive emotionally, very violent, prone to outbursts and regularly beat the crap out of me. I remember being beaten with pool cues, cricket bats, slapped, punched, kicked, spat on, hair pulled, I had boiling hot drinks thrown on me, I got locked in the front porch with both doors locked so I couldn’t go anywhere or even go to toilet, starved for days etc etc.

I was also sexually abused by my mothers father, a man she had idolised all my life so I wasn’t able to say anything to her or anyone, about it. When he died I got absolutely paralytic at his funeral because I was so fucking triggered by everyone he saying what a wonderful guy he was.

I learned later that actually he had also sexually abused my mother and some (not all) of her siblings. It started with her at a certain age so presumably she thought I’d be safe as I was younger, but she sent me off on holidays with her parents, I spent whole weekends and half terms at their house and they took me away to their caravan in a different country for weeks at a time. I wasn’t safe, obviously.

She made no secret of the fact that she got pregnant with me to get my dad to marry her, so she could leave her fathers house to escape his abuse. Apparently she was ecstatic to learn she was pregnant. But she hated me once I was actually here. Clearly resented me. Anytime my own father stuck up for me she punished him too and he always relented, and let her do whatever she wanted.

She had multiple affairs when I was growing up and to the best of my knowledge I’m still the only one who knows about them. She used me as a cover and told me if I ever told my dad about them, then it would be my fault my younger siblings would lose their father and their home.

I developed a drinking problem as a teenager which I’ve since managed to kick. I’m have always suffered MH issues, anxiety, depression and cptsd all of which I’m seeking help for.

She’s never once been able to see anyone else’s pain or point of view, she is incredibly self centred.
If it doesn’t involve her feelings, then it doesn’t matter.

I had successfully cut her off for years and my older kids had nothing to do with her. Then she got really ill and my siblings didn’t think she was going to make it, so
I went to the hospital to see her. She ended up surviving but is in a horrible state health wise, but now she’s back in my life I don’t know how to get rid of her.

I hate her being around. I can’t stand the sound of her voice. The last time I spent any length of time with her (I went to her house, the one I grew up in, to try and help tidy and declutter for the carers, and ended up going home and attempting suicide. All the triggers were just too much)

I don’t know if she genuinely has any regrets or if she just wants someone to care for her now she’s getting more frail, but I don’t want any part of it.

She’s been doing this weird, smothering thing where she’s messaging me every day now, trying to buy me things, offering to babysit, being complimentary (she denigrated every aspect of my looks and personality growing up) anything and everything to be near to me and imho, make up for some of the shit. I remember literally being beaten just for being a ‘Fucking weirdo’ (I liked to read aloud to myself, I found it comforting. I chewed my hair, I repeated excerpts of tv and films I’d seen that stuck in my mind for some reason. I had tics and did other socially unacceptable things and was often beaten for being embarrassing to her )

I just don’t want it. I have a visceral reaction to her and it genuinely makes me physically sick when she’s around.

She was diagnosed as autistic in her early 60s so I’ve really been trying to cut her some slack. I was ‘late’ diagnosed as AuDhd in my late 30s so I’ve really been trying hard to be gentle with her because of that and what she went through herself as a child, but I don’t feel I can take it, mentally or physically. I have 6 children myself, 4 of which are also ND. All of my energy is going into not repeating generational trauma, trying my hardest to be the parent my kids need and maintaining my relationship with my (frankly wonderful, angelic husband)

I really wanted to try and care for her in the way I know she must have missed out on herself as a child, but after all this time I just don’t feel I have it in me anymore. She doesn’t care about anyone else’s feelings, or the effort anyone else makes, she’s never once been concerned with difficult times I’ve had (or my siblings)

We were left to fend for ourselves from a very young age but she still wants this picture perfect mum and child relationship with us all. I know she is ND. I know she is traumatised. But do I have to keep trying to fight all of my own trauma in order to be a good daughter?

I really want to be able to cut her out of my life for my own peace and safety but I don’t want my siblings to suffer or be put in an awkward position.

I’m not sure what I’m asking. I think I’m asking is it ok to prioritise myself at this point, knowing how hard she has/had it too and didn’t have anyone looking out for her? Will I survive the guilt if I just.. stop? I

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Atethehalloweenchocs · 18/06/2024 18:30

But do I have to keep trying to fight all of my own trauma in order to be a good daughter?

No. It is no ones fault if your needs mean you cannot meet her needs.

I really want to be able to cut her out of my life for my own peace and safety but I don’t want my siblings to suffer or be put in an awkward position.

Unfortunately I dont think this will be possible. Any kind of estrangement has an impact on the family and there is no easy way round that.

I’m not sure what I’m asking. I think I’m asking is it ok to prioritise myself at this point, knowing how hard she has/had it too and didn’t have anyone looking out for her? Will I survive the guilt if I just.. stop?

It is VITAL you prioritise yourself. Estrangement is very very hard though and you may feel very guilty about it for a long time to come. Lots of people regret estrangement. But sometimes it is for the best. FWIW, autistic mothers are often convinced they are brilliant mothers with no concept of how what they do affects their children.

CollyWobble99 · 27/06/2024 21:29

Hi everyone. I’m sorry it’s taken a little while to come back but it all got a bit much and I needed a breather. It took a lot for me to spill all of that out in one place, and I have horrible anxiety which got the better of me after a few posts and I retreated back into my shell.

I wanted to say thank you to you all, I didn’t imagine for a moment that I might not actually, really be the one in the wrong. I’ve been made to feel responsible for all of her feelings forever and the guilt I feel at just imagining cutting her off has been overwhelming. I realise now that I do have to do it though.

A few questions have been asked and I won’t remember all of them off the top of my head but someone referenced the point I made about husband looking to move - Yes, I would be really happy to. I want to get away from here and never look back.

My children have a large age gap between them, the older children are pretty much adults (20, 18 & 17 with plans of their own to move on with their next steps, all with our full support) and the younger ones aren’t old enough to have established friendships/hobbies etc so moving house and changing schools is probably best done now rather than later. We still intend to buy somewhere with enough space for all of them so they’ll all still have their own rooms and be welcome home anytime they like.

I did leave home but I didn’t wait until I was 18, I left at 15 which is a whole other story in itself. I was only drawn back in by her Ill health and have been kicking myself ever since.

I have a new therapist who I start seeing properly as of next week and for the first time (partly in response to this thread and your replies) I feel capable of being truly and completely honest about everything. I’ve hidden so much in past sessions which was never going to help but I was genuinely too afraid to say so much of what I’ve said here out loud.

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PTSDBarbiegirl · 27/06/2024 21:37

The weird thing about it is you just stop engaging with them. That leaves a feeling of missing some sort of announcement or closure, it's strange but just stop. Be free, you were not protected but we're harmed. Get therapy and you will move on. Lots of good support here.

Member984815 · 27/06/2024 21:39

Well done on seeking therapy and making steps to get away , I wish you all the best for your future . Don't let anyone tell you to back down and let her back into your life.

itsmylife7 · 27/06/2024 21:53

You sound an amazing Mother OP.

Go and live your life with your children and lovely husband.
You deserve it.

Atethehalloweenchocs · 27/06/2024 22:11

I am so glad you have found a place to talk about these things. And that you can see that it is ok to be completely open about our experiences. Thank you for taking time to update us - I feel quite excited for you and your future without this horrible burden. Take care.

ButtonsB · 27/06/2024 22:17

You left home at 15?
You poor child.
So glad you have a new therapist.
Well done on deciding to be 100%honest.

Go for it with the move.
It sounds as if it could be enormously positive and freeing.

Sparticusoctopus · 27/06/2024 22:23

Wow. You are amazing. You’ve been through so much but you are so thoughtful about your kids.

Your needs matter too. Just as much.

Your first priority is your children as you brought them into the world and it sounds like you are doing a fantastic job.

In order to keep doing that, your other number one priority is your well-being. Your health and mental health. Being in contact with her sounds detrimental to that and re-traumatising.

You didn’t cause her issues and you can’t fix them. She’s desperately trying to keep you in but if that’s not best for you and your children (and it doesn’t sound like it is), then you have to keep her away.

Any energy you have after that put into friendships. Ones that nurture you.

You owe the woman who gave birth to you, nothing - NOTHING. Duty is a concept that keeps us in chains. She didn’t put you first when you were a gorgeous, perfect baby and child. You owe her zilch.

It’s helpful to understand her history of abuse and her functioning, so you know that it was that that led to her doing such an awful job, not anything about you. You deserved better. But understanding where the abuse of you came from IS NOT AN EXCUSE. She was fully responsible and accountable and she abused you horribly.

Understanding where the abuse came from might help you let go of any self blame and might mean you can let go of some anger, and even may be forgive her, but don’t mistake that for a good reason to stay in touch. Each contact with her sounds like you are being burned on top of already burned skin. Don’t keep going back to the fire. You can’t put it out. You can only avoid it.

Your brothers (flying monkeys) may try all sorts to lure you back in but don’t let them sway you. The fire wasn’t started by you, it’s not your job to put it out and there are people out there whose job it is and won’t find it retraumatising.

Therapy is an excellent idea.

Mostly, be as kind to yourself as you would a best friend in the same situation. You have done so well to get through all this and being the mum you are. Truly inspiring. 💐

kittybiscuits · 27/06/2024 22:24

I sent a text about my decision and then blocked. No regrets. She's dead now. She never loved me. You have very many reasons to go no contact. You've been through so much at the hands of your mother. She made unforgivable choices. Please liberate yourself from this terrible, toxic relationship. You deserve peace and to be around people who love and protect you.

mrssunshinexxx · 27/06/2024 23:08

Cut her out and never look back. Tell
Your siblings EVERYTHING.
Concentrate on healing and being the opposite mother to the role model you had. I'm so sorry for what you've endured . She sounds like a monster

RogueFemale · 27/06/2024 23:13

@CollyWobble99 100% support you.

sevsal · 27/06/2024 23:36

kittybiscuits · 27/06/2024 22:24

I sent a text about my decision and then blocked. No regrets. She's dead now. She never loved me. You have very many reasons to go no contact. You've been through so much at the hands of your mother. She made unforgivable choices. Please liberate yourself from this terrible, toxic relationship. You deserve peace and to be around people who love and protect you.

That's how I did it too and have had many happy years without her in them since

CollyWobble99 · 28/06/2024 19:46

Thank you to everyone for your kind words and advice, and especially to those who’ve shared your own experiences of similar parents and situations. I do hope you’ve been able to heal, move on and find some happiness for yourselves too x

It will take a little bit of time to work out how to manage it but I am going to make the break. If I don’t it will be me that breaks and Ive come too far and have my own loved ones that will suffer if I allow that to happen.

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Sparticusoctopus · 29/06/2024 20:42

CollyWobble99 · 28/06/2024 19:46

Thank you to everyone for your kind words and advice, and especially to those who’ve shared your own experiences of similar parents and situations. I do hope you’ve been able to heal, move on and find some happiness for yourselves too x

It will take a little bit of time to work out how to manage it but I am going to make the break. If I don’t it will be me that breaks and Ive come too far and have my own loved ones that will suffer if I allow that to happen.

Best of luck lovely. We all stand right behind you. 💪

TammyJones · 29/06/2024 21:18

Good luck
You've got this op.

CollyWobble99 · 06/07/2024 22:21

Hi everyone, me again. So I took the first step a week ago and blocked her on socials (except one that she told me she didn’t use anymore). I also blocked her phone number on my phone so she can’t call or text me.

It’s actually been a really positive move, I’ve felt so peaceful at times this week which is something I didn’t think I was even capable of anymore. My husband has told me how much calmer and relaxed I seem. The simple thing of just not even seeing her name in messages etc has made so much more difference than I would have believed!

The thing is, I think she knows now as the one SM I didn’t block her on shows that’s she’s leaving groups that we’ve been in together. She’s done this exact sort of passive aggressive thing before and she does it so I know she’s upset with me.

I’ve got that horrible familiar knot in my stomach now and that awful sense of having done something truly horrific just because I know she isn’t happy. I’m trying not to fixate on it and tell myself that I’m prioritising my own feelings and that I’m not responsible for hers.

The next step I imagine she will take will be to involve my brothers. I guess here is where the road gets bumpy.

If anything though, the sheer relief I’ve felt for the last few days compared to this feeling today just because she’s made her presence felt has demonstrated that it really is the right thing to do.

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ButterCrackers · 06/07/2024 22:54

CollyWobble99 · 06/07/2024 22:21

Hi everyone, me again. So I took the first step a week ago and blocked her on socials (except one that she told me she didn’t use anymore). I also blocked her phone number on my phone so she can’t call or text me.

It’s actually been a really positive move, I’ve felt so peaceful at times this week which is something I didn’t think I was even capable of anymore. My husband has told me how much calmer and relaxed I seem. The simple thing of just not even seeing her name in messages etc has made so much more difference than I would have believed!

The thing is, I think she knows now as the one SM I didn’t block her on shows that’s she’s leaving groups that we’ve been in together. She’s done this exact sort of passive aggressive thing before and she does it so I know she’s upset with me.

I’ve got that horrible familiar knot in my stomach now and that awful sense of having done something truly horrific just because I know she isn’t happy. I’m trying not to fixate on it and tell myself that I’m prioritising my own feelings and that I’m not responsible for hers.

The next step I imagine she will take will be to involve my brothers. I guess here is where the road gets bumpy.

If anything though, the sheer relief I’ve felt for the last few days compared to this feeling today just because she’s made her presence felt has demonstrated that it really is the right thing to do.

Absolutely and continue as you are doing. You’ll fell better and better. No matter what your brothers you are focusing on your wellbeing.

Cherrysoup · 06/07/2024 23:49

So block her on that one too and move on with your life. You have done totally the right thing.

CollyWobble99 · 06/07/2024 23:59

Cherrysoup · 06/07/2024 23:49

So block her on that one too and move on with your life. You have done totally the right thing.

I forgot to say when I posted but when I noticed what was happening I did block her there too. The relief is pretty huge I won’t lie. It feels like the spell is finally breaking.

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ButtonsB · 07/07/2024 00:22

You have got this.
Keep posting.
We are here for you.

CollyWobble99 · 07/07/2024 07:36

ButtonsB · 07/07/2024 00:22

You have got this.
Keep posting.
We are here for you.

Thank you all for the helpful suggestions and supportive words. It sounds daft but the posters here and my husband are really helping me not to waver x

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InterIgnis · 07/07/2024 07:52

She’s trained you to be scared of her reactions, and to do anything to avoid her displeasure. It’s a Pavlovian response, frankly, and when you examine it you’ll realise that despite your fear there’s nothing she can do to you. So she’ll be angry…and? What does that mean to you? Nothing. The only power she has over you is that which you give her. You’ve done well taking the steps you have, don’t allow your fear of her to take you backwards and hurt you.

CollyWobble99 · 07/07/2024 18:57

So even sooner than I expected, I’ve had a visit from youngest sibling today to tell me that mums unhappy with me and is feeling hurt, she doesn’t understand what she’s done wrong and doesn’t know why I’m avoiding her. I wimped out tbh and said I’m having a break from my phone as it excerbates my adhd symptoms (this is actually true to an extent and I’m looking to buy an old phone that just calls and texts and nothing else)

I really don’t want to put my brothers in an awkward situation. She has my husbands number and my older kids numbers too so I’m not unreachable as such. I’m just not there at her beck and call.

My husband is pretty pissed off about my brother turning up this afternoon doing my mothers grunt work and upsetting me and is furiously searching how we can sell up, put distance between my family and I and still work (he’s self employed so has built up a whole business)

Im feeling pretty fucking crappy that my decision to do this is affecting other people so much already, but I don’t see how I can make things better for myself (and my immediate family) without hurting anyone else 😕

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theonlygirl · 07/07/2024 19:05

CollyWobble99 · 18/06/2024 07:59

I do have other siblings. They’re all younger, and all male. She’s just so different with them it makes me feel like I’m going crazy. She actually wanted them though which is probably the difference. I was a means to an end. I just want out.

Please, please prioritise yourself. She's just continuing to torture you but in a different way. You owe her nothing. You are not responsible for her trauma. Let your siblings deal with her. Presumably they know how you were treated? Prioritise yourself, your husband and your children. 💐

CollyWobble99 · 07/07/2024 19:26

theonlygirl · 07/07/2024 19:05

Please, please prioritise yourself. She's just continuing to torture you but in a different way. You owe her nothing. You are not responsible for her trauma. Let your siblings deal with her. Presumably they know how you were treated? Prioritise yourself, your husband and your children. 💐

They’re all younger so know some of it but not all. We did not have the same mother at all, and a lot of things such as the sexual abuse situation she let me go into, the affairs, a good amount of physical abuse they don’t really know about. I’m the oldest and have kept so much to myself.

They do have their own issues with her, she’s never really been a ‘good’ parent to any of us, but they see her as small and vulnerable and complicated and hard work but feel sorry for her. They’ve been manipulated too but having not suffered the same abuse as I have, seem to think it’s a fairly normal relationship and are quite protective of her and her feelings.

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