There's no such thing as an independent female

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I'm so wound up! Earlier, DP said to me he thinks I would benefit from signing up to Andrew Tate's academy course or whatever it is (I like learning about making money online, more out of interest than actually doing it myself). I said probably, but I wouldn't want to fund him as I don't like him. He asked why and I said he's not very nice to/about women. He was aghast and we went back and forth, defending him for the most part when I was reading bits off to him from a BBC article to prove my point. I read the following -

In that same video, he described women as "intrinsically lazy" and said there was "no such thing as an independent female".

...and he was like 'yeah, no women can be independent, you need men'. I couldn't believe it! I won't bore you with the heated discussion that ensued but he genuinely believes that not just I would crumble without a man (him), but all women on the planet if men suddenly disappeared. We would apparently perish in good time because we 'cannot hunt, do electrics, fix a roof or change a tyre'. (To add insult to injury I have qualifications in electrical installation and engineering, I'm pretty sure I could also change a tyre if push came to shove).

Also, I said I think there would be less wars without men - he said there'd me more because women are bitchy?? I said I'm pretty sure men have started a lot more wars than women in history. He pointed in my face and told me women didn't even fight in wars til recently. I reminded him that men made those rules.. 😂

He genuinelyyyyyy believes I'd fall apart without him. Our relationship has been rocky lately but this really made me see a different side to him. He really made me feel like a lesser person and it's made me feel really disappointed since. AIBU to be lying in bed awake stewing over this???

Contempt is one of the main predictors of relationship breakdown.

Reading your posts its clear he doesn't respect or appreciate you, and actually his belief in the Andrew Tate gospel is giving you the ick.

It sounds like he used to be supportive and a good partner way back in the past, but his recent treatment of you is unacceptable - why on earth would you want to stay with someone who wants to bring you down?

Not read many PPs but doesn't he know what a terrible reputation Andrew Tate has? Haven't followed the story but he was jailed in Romania - holding women against their will, rape and human trafficking. Only an idiot would ''follow'' him.
What an idiot - what's P's IQ?!

Leave him and prove him wrong. Nothing else for it. He thinks women are lesser, he doesn't deserve a relationship with one.

If there were only men or only women the species would die out very quickly either way. I'm not sure the women would die out quicker than the men though. They might create totally different style end times though.

With advancements in science it's probably soon going to be possible for women to be artificially inseminated with synthetic sperm and reproduce together.

Men don't have the ability to carry or grow the baby.

Life without men in my close proximity is joyful, relaxed, free and fulfilling.
Took a long time to get there.
Full stop.

Sorry, I meant the part where you said "I think it's true men are generally better at some things". I'm curious to hear what things you think men are generally better at than women.

I think the major red flag is listerning to anything Andrew tate has to say .

😁

I'm planning a sit down chat tonight about this and other things

What “chat” do you think will address the fact he’s a misogynist cockwomble?

Don’t chat, run.

We would apparently perish in good time because we 'cannot hunt

He regularly slaughters a mammoth for the kitchen, does he?

Arsehole!

I hear that as "oh you silly woman, you should have just been like me, a big man, and accidentally fallen into a job".

Before you leave him, point out that if he can only see worth in money, his value as a "man" is lower than those who can see value in happiness and family.

Men are generally better at reaching high things , at thumping things hard, throwing things and running fast

Not terribly useful overall and not things to be admired really but they do have their uses

OP I would bet money that you haven’t prioritised your career due to your family. And now he’s wormed worked is way into to essentially the same career as you in order to better you.

dump his arse and start focusing on your career and what you want from it. He’s gone now, any views of you and women that he’s kept hidden so far are now in the open and he doesn’t feel the need to hide anymore

There are still some very simple tribes in various places in the world

They tend to hold women in high esteem and women have a place at the table when it comes to running the tribe

Because the men admit that they would starve if it wasn't for the women managing a regular supply of food - hunting is too unreliable

Anyway time to demonstrate what an independent female looks like

This is more than being misogynistic, his treatment of you is classic gaslighting.

I would leave to protect my DD from this sort of bullshit

'No such thing as an independent female, DH? Why don't we put that to the test and you pack your bags and leave? Cheerio.'

Reaching high things - I'm taller than most men on my family and half the men in DHs so I'm better at that.

Thumping things hard - Nicola Adams

Throwing things - Jessica Ennis-Hill

Running fast - Katarina J-T.

Just off the top of my head.

I actually like men (proper ones who aren't d!cks), but there's always women who can do things better than most men.

If Tate thinks women are intrinsically lazy he should read some of the threads on here. Fox example the one with the poor woman just home from an op whose husband is not lifting a finger to help her. I've seen too many other threads about useless waste of space husbands.

Whatever he pretended to be like when dating, he’s now well down the Andrew Tate rabbit hole. It’s time to start planning for your exit.

Since you describe him as your DP not your DH, you need to be aware you are entitled to child support and assets with your name on them only. If he’s got the savings / the house in his name, you won’t get a penny (unless you manage to show your contributions in court - expensive, lengthy court proceedings and not guaranteed to succeed).

Giving up work will mean you are trapped. If he gets even more abusive, you won’t be able to leave. He sounds like the type to give you a card to make purchases and then check receipts (so you can’t ’steal his money’). Do you want to be begging for money for basic clothes for you and the children? Because this type of man will be happy to make you do so.

Oh dont be daft

On average men are better at strength and speed and the best man will beat the best woman

I stand by that despite your examples which really prove the point

So what? It's just biology and it doesn't make a man better or superior really does it ? Women are better at giving birth - that's biology again

Biology is real - don't deny where it does matter as that just makes you look stupid and so weakens the case for women to be taken seriously where biology doesn't make a difference
Like logical thinking and factual analysis

Is he aware Tate has been charged with human trafficking and rape? https://apnews.com/article/andrew-tate-romania-trial-human-trafficking-rape-4dde5de557094c6eadde73722833327a#:~:text=A%20court%20in%20Romania's%20capital,gang%20to%20sexually%20exploit%20women.

He sounds like he’s got underlying insecurities!!

In the bin!!