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To think the never ending criticism of Rishi Sunak is rooted in racism?

257 replies

FishPhoods · 12/06/2024 13:39

I know he's not perfect as none of our politicians are! But I do feel like people are out to trip him up over personal things as much as possible. This Sky TV thing is Rodin my opinion - Rishi has never claimed to have had a difficult start or to have grown up in poverty. The journalist pressed him for what he went without in order that his parents could afford his private education and he said he always wanted Sky TV and never had it. He was saying it in a fairly lighthearted way he wasn't moaning or complaining!

People can't seem to handle the fact that he's wealthy and also the puns on his name and the claims he's "unpatriotic". I feel a little bit of thinly veiled racism creeping in.

OP posts:
Butchyrestingface · 12/06/2024 14:04

No. I'm Scottish. We are genetically programmed to hate Tories, although there are always a few usually rich who swim against the tide. Grin

I don't dislike Sunak any more than your average Tory PM. He's not Thatcher, for instance. But he's still a Tory.

Simonjt · 12/06/2024 14:06

Boris Johnson is American, he wasn’t born in the UK. Funny that no one ever claimed his culture was a reason for x, y or z. Yet they do for a man born in the UK.

I’m not a supporter or the tories or Sunak, but anyone claiming a lot of the criticism he recieves isn’t racism needs their head testing, the same as those who claimed May wasn’t be subjected to sexism.

crowgift · 12/06/2024 14:06

well, I share his "background" and I find him to be an embarrassment.

Cattery · 12/06/2024 14:06

No. More likely rooted in his decimation of the country and his disconnection from the general population. Oh and it COULD be something to do with him and his cronies lining their pockets with tax payers money whilst paying none themselves. Just saying…

Hoppinggreen · 12/06/2024 14:08

FishPhoods · 12/06/2024 13:43

Liz Truss was well deserved criticism of her performance, David Cameron didn't have people trying to trip him up at every single opportunity like what we are seeing happening here.

Nobody needs to trip Sunak, he's doing a great job of it on his own

whatnnoww · 12/06/2024 14:09

I think at this point there is nothing at all he could say that anyone would like . He’s the scape goat .

I think he was actually being honest . He probably was the poor kid at Winchester relatively speaking and I bet all the other kids did have Sky .

fliptopbin · 12/06/2024 14:10

Nigel Farage's comment was undoubtedly a racist dog whistle, but it is hardly breaking news that Farage is a racist arsehole -we have known that for years.
Yes, Sunak is marginally better than Johnson and Truss, but that is a very low bar.
However, he does represent the Tories which have given us Johnson and Truss, and we vote for the party not the person. So the criticism is directed towards the party as well as Sunak himself. And people want a change.
Also, he has run a shockingly bad election campaign.

YellowHairband · 12/06/2024 14:14

Rishi has never claimed to have had a difficult start or to have grown up in poverty
The journalist pressed him for what he went without in order that his parents could afford his private education

The journalist asked him whether he understood the day to day struggles people had, and had he ever gone without something. Sunak said he had, and was asked what. He could have said he was fortunate enough to not have gone without. Or that he was fortunate enough that the small things he went without are immaterial, which I'd say is the case if Sky is the only thing he could come up with.

DaintyYellowShoes · 12/06/2024 14:21

FishPhoods · 12/06/2024 13:46

I'm not saying he doesn't deserved to be criticised, and I'm sure a large proportion of what we see and read is people's genuine opinions based on his political values and record. But there's an element creeping in that makes me uncomfortable.

But the discussion is never JUST about the policies. Remember when Milliband was criticised for how he ate a bacon sandwich.

Like many on here, I think he's a bit less overtly dreadful than Johnson or Truss. Sometimes I've toned down my criticism because I'm worried that people will perceive me as racist. But I promise it's got nothing to do with his ethnic heritage and everything to do with him being the out-of-touch leader of the party that's done vast damage to this country. I wouldn't want to be in a position where we have to be more cautious about criticising someone due to their membership of a minority group, though.

I'm sure there is plenty of racism towards him, unfortunately. But there are also many, many people who are fed up to the back teeth with the Tories and who have some fairly strong words to say about the matter.

GETTINGLIKEMYMOTHER · 12/06/2024 14:21

I certainly think that some of it is down to very thinly veiled racism. But quite a bit to a general green-eyed hatred aka envy of anyone very rich, not to mention good old class warfare aimed at anyone who went to an elite public school. Any elite English public school anyway - I don’t recall such venom directed at Blair, who attended the elite Scottish Fettes.

peanutbuttertoasty · 12/06/2024 14:22

Absolute bullshit OP, stop race baiting. He gets the same scrutiny and ridicule in the press as all leaders/opposition. Do you think he should get special treatment for some reason? He’s in the most powerful position in the country.

As for being unpatriotic…. His billions are offshore, he is clutching a green card and has one foot out the door of the UK. Many of his policy decisions seem to have vastly inflated his fortunes at the expense of the UK’s interests. If the cap fits…

peanutbuttertoasty · 12/06/2024 14:27

And for what it’s worth, you can be white and British and unpatriotic. See James Dyson, Edward VIII, Anthony Blunt etc…

EatCrow · 12/06/2024 14:29

ll09sm · 12/06/2024 13:41

Are you name changing and starting multiple threads to just fuel race baiting?

Has it occurred to you that he may just be a moron? And an incompetent politician?

Exactly this. So desperate.

EatCrow · 12/06/2024 14:31

I deeply loathed Cameron, I guess he was wearing makeup.

SocoBateVira · 12/06/2024 14:31

Simonjt · 12/06/2024 14:06

Boris Johnson is American, he wasn’t born in the UK. Funny that no one ever claimed his culture was a reason for x, y or z. Yet they do for a man born in the UK.

I’m not a supporter or the tories or Sunak, but anyone claiming a lot of the criticism he recieves isn’t racism needs their head testing, the same as those who claimed May wasn’t be subjected to sexism.

There's a distinction between some criticism he receives is because of racism and the criticism per se is rooted in racism, though.

The first is obviously true. The second isn't. The country is in a mess and he's running an utterly inept campaign. There is no politician the Tories could've put up that wouldn't fail hard. Which is ultimately the reason they finally gave Boris the boot- he was increasingly disliked.

Mojodojocasahous · 12/06/2024 14:32

Nah it’s cos he’s an out of touch Tory and the country have had enough of them

Theunamedcat · 12/06/2024 14:34

Not everything is to do with skin colour

Some people are fundamental cunts who happen not to be white

meetmeatsunset · 12/06/2024 14:35

I don't care what colour his skin is. He's a moron who doesn't live the same reality as most of the people he's supposed to representing in this country and his constituency. He says the most stupid out of touch things and he really doesn't give a shit about you or me. I'm also brown, of mixed Middle Eastern descent by the way, so come at me if you want to find racism in my post.

KreedKafer · 12/06/2024 14:35

There's nothing remotely racist about this. Get a grip.

Downplayit · 12/06/2024 14:37

Sadly I think you may be right. I always try and imagine whether a woman would have got as far as Boris Johnson with a similar unkempt image, multiple relatinships and children by different partners, being unfaithful amd just generally feckless. She'd be crucified before she even got to ballot. The same is probably true for anyone who doesn't fulfil the white middle aged man in a suit profile.

Churchview · 12/06/2024 14:44

You just have to look around you at the state of the country to see that people feel utterly let down by the Conservatives.

Sunak's race, colour, sex are irrelevant if you are on a long NHS waiting list, can't afford a roof over your head, are worse off financially than you were a decade ago despite working hard or are bouncing over pot holes on the way to the food bank.

He and the Conservatives deserve all the criticism they get. They earned it on their own merits.

I also want to add that Keir Starmer gets a huge amount of stick (often from Rishi Sunak) about his background - also people spell his name incorrectly the whole time - I assume you don't believe that is race related?

SocoBateVira · 12/06/2024 14:48

Downplayit · 12/06/2024 14:37

Sadly I think you may be right. I always try and imagine whether a woman would have got as far as Boris Johnson with a similar unkempt image, multiple relatinships and children by different partners, being unfaithful amd just generally feckless. She'd be crucified before she even got to ballot. The same is probably true for anyone who doesn't fulfil the white middle aged man in a suit profile.

Even then, I think it's quite a specific subtype of white middle aged man in a suit. Starmer couldn't get away with it, because he's on the left and not posh enough.

ToWhitToWhoo · 12/06/2024 14:49

No, I don't think most of it is. May, Johnson and Truss also came in for loads of criticism. The thing is that (a) we're going through difficult times as a country, which always leads to criticism of the leaders; (b|) let's face it, Sunak- like his recent predecessors- IS fairly rubbish.

Probably most of the things that Farage says about him have some roots in racism/ xenophobia. Most of the things that Farage says about anything have some roots in racism/ xenophobia!

Justkeepswiimming · 12/06/2024 14:50

He's British born and educated for a start. And I hate that an aversion to ineptitude and cronyism is begin written off as racism.

Nonspecificcheese · 12/06/2024 14:51

Oh please.

Yes, some people won’t like him because they’re racist, and therefore some criticism will be tainted by racism. The vast majority isn’t and is based entirely on the fact that he’s clearly out of his depth, appears to have no political instincts, and is in charge of an incompetent rabble.

The best compliment I can give him is that out of the last three Prime Ministers, he’s the best.