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Colleague has said I'm vain a few times

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Spottttty · 12/06/2024 06:56

Well not said it, but heavily implied it. I could understand if I'm going around saying 'Look at me I'm soo beautiful' but obviously this isn't the case.

She's said this because I sometimes put make up on or use a mirror at work at lunch. So what? Like it's not affecting her in any way.
She's made comments about 3 times, I've just laughed but next time I'll say something maybe?

It might just be friendly ribbing as she's nice otherwise but not sure what her goal is. She's someone who doesn't wear a scrap of make up and that's up to her, I'm not someone who can do that and that's just me.

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HysteriaOfTheWanderingWomb · 12/06/2024 08:33

ineedsun · 12/06/2024 08:30

People are explaining why she might be noticing and directing attention to you reapplying make up. It’s an unusual thing to do in public, but rather than accept that some people might find it odd and a bit uncomfortable to watch someone doing this you’re getting very defensive.

What would be a better way to let someone know that you are making them feel uncomfortable by applying makeup in a public place?

Fine. Public make up application is out of order, sorry, common (pp innumerable)
Still don't think colleague is justified in mimicking and disparaging op.
Colleague should remember her manners if social etiquette is her beef and ask op politely, to do it elsewhere.

Spottttty · 12/06/2024 08:34

Offensive, very weird, very unprofessional.. any more?

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WavingTree · 12/06/2024 08:34

Anyone with true class would not refer to someone as “common”.

Old snobbery about makeup and the actions of others is what’s unpleasant.

Petitedress · 12/06/2024 08:34

Spottttty · 12/06/2024 07:04

Nope it's a group of us at lunch sitting together in the canteen. Some talking, some on their phones, some reading. I don't see how me putting on a bit of concealer or mascara is so offensive 🤣

I love makeup but I only reapply lipstick and lip balm throughout the day. I wouldn't do this in a canteen though. Just go to the toilets and do your makeup by the sink? I think it's odd to reapply mascara and concealer. Maybe look up better makeup brands that are long wearing?

Spottttty · 12/06/2024 08:34

If she wants, she can go to my manager and complain that spotttty put some concealer on on her lunch break in the rec room and how unprofessional it was? Fine by me

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Spottttty · 12/06/2024 08:35

It's not a canteen, it's a break room.

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Mothership4two · 12/06/2024 08:36

Spottttty · 12/06/2024 08:32

I might be stupid but I really fail how that could make her or anyone else terribly uncomfortable?

I doubt she feels terribly uncomfortable but, as a few of us have now said, we'd find it a bit odd/unusual. I wouldn't comment or mimic you though!

A rec room is a social space.

Frasers · 12/06/2024 08:37

I’m in two minds, she shouldn’t say anything, but I always find it a bit odd when someone sits and does their makeup like this, I think go to the loo. There is no real reasoning behind this though, other than personal grooming is normally done in private.

Spottttty · 12/06/2024 08:37

If they think it's a bit weird then I understand that. But like you've said no need to mock/make jibes.

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HysteriaOfTheWanderingWomb · 12/06/2024 08:37

This thread has been very entertaining, need to get to work now though, hope I don't see colleague who puts her make up on at her desk... I'll be so confused how to respond now. 😁

DanielGault · 12/06/2024 08:37

Toastandbutterand · 12/06/2024 08:33

If someone put on their make up in front of me every day at lunch time in public I would think they were
a) a bit of a vain Instagirl.
b) very insecure about their appearance.
c) making a flourishing obvious dig about the fact I never wear make up.

My response would be based on other aspects of their personality, not just the applying of make up in public.

It's an unusual enough action that I would wonder why you were compelled to do it. I probably wouldn't say anything though.

That says an awful lot more about you than it does about them tbh. Why does makeup scare/offend you this much? Why do you think anyone would care enough to make digs that you don't wear it? This is crazy stuff. I don't wear it either btw, but I'm not freaked out by the fact that others do.

goingdownfighting · 12/06/2024 08:39

I'm going to stick up you here OP.

The colleague hasn't complained about hygiene, appropriateness of make up application. She's commented on the values aspect of it.

OP just ignore her and carry on. If she does have a PA point to make then she needs to get better communication skills.

HysteriaOfTheWanderingWomb · 12/06/2024 08:40

Just a quick one before I go... To pp who prefer using the loos... When using make up in the loos aren't you bothered about the airborne bacteria getting on your make up, it doesn't seem very hygienic to me?

tuvamoodyson · 12/06/2024 08:41

Spottttty · 12/06/2024 08:35

It's not a canteen, it's a break room.

Oh! I see! When you said it was a group of sitting at lunch in the canteen, I thought you meant the canteen!! Much clearer now….

ineedsun · 12/06/2024 08:41

Spottttty · 12/06/2024 08:32

I might be stupid but I really fail how that could make her or anyone else terribly uncomfortable?

I’ve been trying to think how to articulate this and I know this sounds ridiculous but to me, it feels like a cross between someone acting like a 1950s film star (which makes me feel like a) it’s old fashioned and b) promotes stereotypes of women that I find uncomfortable) and it puts me in mind of when gorillas preen and pick fleas out of their fur and food out of their teeth.

I wear make up so am perhaps being hypocritical but it’s pretty minimal and I find anything which is very ‘in your face / obvious’ sad and not as attractive as when I see the same people without make up.

It’s none of my business though and I wouldn’t comment, I’d just make a point of not sitting near you if possible.

21ZIGGY · 12/06/2024 08:41

upthespoutagain · 12/06/2024 07:01

Personal grooming should take place in private. Is she in the bathroom with you when you are doing these things? She is probably trying to tell you that you shouldn't be using a mirror to fix your face in public.

What an odd point of view. You can put make up on in public

DanielGault · 12/06/2024 08:43

21ZIGGY · 12/06/2024 08:41

What an odd point of view. You can put make up on in public

Also 'fix your face'. So fifties (or earlier!)

MrsPelligrinoPetrichor · 12/06/2024 08:43

Spottttty · 12/06/2024 07:04

It's also not for her to dictate where I do it

Social norms dictate you don't apply make up in a canteen. Go to the bathroom and do it if her comments bother you.

ru53 · 12/06/2024 08:44

I don’t know why you’re being given such a hard time OP but I have to say I’m finding it all quite entertaining. It seems some people have a very emotive response to the idea of makeup, perhaps they think it’s somehow shameful and should be hidden away. Personally I probably wouldn’t reapply makeup in front of colleagues but it wouldn’t even occur to me to be bothered by someone else doing it.

I’d also be more embarrassed about calling somebody ‘common’ than discretely looking in a mirror in the staff room.

I saw a man clipping his fingernails on the tube once - now that was disgusting.

Toastandbutterand · 12/06/2024 08:45

DanielGault · 12/06/2024 08:37

That says an awful lot more about you than it does about them tbh. Why does makeup scare/offend you this much? Why do you think anyone would care enough to make digs that you don't wear it? This is crazy stuff. I don't wear it either btw, but I'm not freaked out by the fact that others do.

I don't care.

I just think it's sufficiently unusual enough that I'd wonder why they were doing it. And I'd base my conclusion on other aspects of their personality.

That's it.

I probably wouldn't say anything to them. It's not really necessary or my business.

BardsAreAssholes · 12/06/2024 08:45

Refreshing your lipstick is fine, getting out a mirror to reapply concealer and mascara etc in public in the break room is a bit off.

I can understand someone commenting if you do that regularly.

It’s certainly performative, rather than doing your makeup in the toilets in front of a mirror like most people.

KimberleyClark · 12/06/2024 08:45

Theydogethystericalovertheslightestthing · 12/06/2024 07:50

Because it is just common. Read the other posts, very few think this is socially acceptable.
It's as offensive as people walking through foreign resorts in just beachwear, or going to supermarket in night attire.
Common, lazy, acts cause offence

Or coming down to hotel breakfast in your PJs and dressing gown!

I did wear a little make up when I was working, but once it was on that was it. Never did any retouching at all. OP did you get your make up bag out and put it on the table?

ChinaBlueBell · 12/06/2024 08:46

upthespoutagain · 12/06/2024 07:01

Personal grooming should take place in private. Is she in the bathroom with you when you are doing these things? She is probably trying to tell you that you shouldn't be using a mirror to fix your face in public.

Eh? Even our late Queen reapplied her lipstick in public.

DanielGault · 12/06/2024 08:46

MrsPelligrinoPetrichor · 12/06/2024 08:43

Social norms dictate you don't apply make up in a canteen. Go to the bathroom and do it if her comments bother you.

It's not 'social norms' for everyone though as the thread shows. I genuinely wouldn't bat an eyelid about this and have never come across anyone who's had a problem with it.

ineedsun · 12/06/2024 08:49

ru53 · 12/06/2024 08:44

I don’t know why you’re being given such a hard time OP but I have to say I’m finding it all quite entertaining. It seems some people have a very emotive response to the idea of makeup, perhaps they think it’s somehow shameful and should be hidden away. Personally I probably wouldn’t reapply makeup in front of colleagues but it wouldn’t even occur to me to be bothered by someone else doing it.

I’d also be more embarrassed about calling somebody ‘common’ than discretely looking in a mirror in the staff room.

I saw a man clipping his fingernails on the tube once - now that was disgusting.

I’d view both in the same way to be honest

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