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Colleague has said I'm vain a few times

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Spottttty · 12/06/2024 06:56

Well not said it, but heavily implied it. I could understand if I'm going around saying 'Look at me I'm soo beautiful' but obviously this isn't the case.

She's said this because I sometimes put make up on or use a mirror at work at lunch. So what? Like it's not affecting her in any way.
She's made comments about 3 times, I've just laughed but next time I'll say something maybe?

It might just be friendly ribbing as she's nice otherwise but not sure what her goal is. She's someone who doesn't wear a scrap of make up and that's up to her, I'm not someone who can do that and that's just me.

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Calliopespa · 13/06/2024 20:15

andHelenknowsimmiserablenow · 13/06/2024 20:10

I agree, the mimicking and mocking from plain jane colleague is far far worse behaviour than touching up your make-up.

I think we can all agree the mimicry was off.

I don’t agree it means she is plain however. I was not very embracing of make up in my teens, twenties and thirties precisely because I wasn’t plain. Sadly I need a bit in my forties 😐. But I apply it in … the ladies!

( Actually I mostly do it at home and don’t think it needs much fiddling with through the day).

Buzzardbird · 13/06/2024 20:17

Spotty, get yourself some tubing mascara. You won't need to re-apply at all and offend the people wiping their mouths on the back of their hands after eating their sandwiches. Setting spray is also really good for keeping your concealer in place...that way you can use your mirror simply to admire your gorgeousness :)

Teddybear23 · 13/06/2024 20:30

I always wear makeup because I don’t think I look good without it. I have had my looks criticised a lot while I was younger. I have always thought that people who don’t wear makeup must think they look good without it so if anything they are the ones who are vain (out of the two). I think people who wear makeup don’t have a lot of confidence (like me) and it just makes us feel a bit better.

Isometimeswonder · 13/06/2024 20:31

If you're supposed to only put your lippy on in the loo, why can you buy little foldaway mirrors for your handbag?

Calliopespa · 13/06/2024 20:32

Teddybear23 · 13/06/2024 20:30

I always wear makeup because I don’t think I look good without it. I have had my looks criticised a lot while I was younger. I have always thought that people who don’t wear makeup must think they look good without it so if anything they are the ones who are vain (out of the two). I think people who wear makeup don’t have a lot of confidence (like me) and it just makes us feel a bit better.

I wear it more now I’m not in the first flush of youth

And yes, I agree it probably was vanity that gave me the confidence not to.

But I honestly haven’t seen this thread as being about vanity . To me it’s about respectful use of shared space.

EverythingYouDoIsaBalloon · 13/06/2024 20:38

This thread has a really unpleasant whiff of 'Women! Under no circumstances draw attention to yourselves, you brazen trollops!' in places.

I mean, saying hand cream's OK because the act of putting it on is less noticeable? Calling a quick lick of makeup a performance? Scrub that nasty muck off, girls, and get back in your place. Oh, and don't forget to avoid looking at any and all shiny surfaces on the way.

I mean, really.

I mean, seriously.

Calliopespa · 13/06/2024 20:48

EverythingYouDoIsaBalloon · 13/06/2024 20:38

This thread has a really unpleasant whiff of 'Women! Under no circumstances draw attention to yourselves, you brazen trollops!' in places.

I mean, saying hand cream's OK because the act of putting it on is less noticeable? Calling a quick lick of makeup a performance? Scrub that nasty muck off, girls, and get back in your place. Oh, and don't forget to avoid looking at any and all shiny surfaces on the way.

I mean, really.

I mean, seriously.

It really isn’t that if you read the whole thread. It’s about personal grooming, male or female.

The people who want to say it’s appropriate are trying to make it a gender issue; but it isn’t.

PinkFishies · 13/06/2024 20:49

Teddybear23 · 13/06/2024 20:30

I always wear makeup because I don’t think I look good without it. I have had my looks criticised a lot while I was younger. I have always thought that people who don’t wear makeup must think they look good without it so if anything they are the ones who are vain (out of the two). I think people who wear makeup don’t have a lot of confidence (like me) and it just makes us feel a bit better.

That’s really sad to hear that you’ve had your looks criticised in the past and I hope you’ve managed overcome that. People who criticise other people’s appearances are more than likely unhappy and insecure. Bullies feel the need to tear others down to make themselves feel better or superior.

However, not all people who wear makeup are lacking in confidence. I wear makeup as I enjoy putting it on and experimenting with different techniques, styles, products and colours. To me it is an art form. And I quite happily go to work, run errands, go out for meals and to the pub without any makeup on at all.

HappyMe6 · 13/06/2024 20:50

Why not go to the cloakroom and do it, if you feel the need to reapply a lot of us do I’d take myself off and reapply in private

PeonyAndBlushSuede · 13/06/2024 20:53

EverythingYouDoIsaBalloon · 13/06/2024 20:38

This thread has a really unpleasant whiff of 'Women! Under no circumstances draw attention to yourselves, you brazen trollops!' in places.

I mean, saying hand cream's OK because the act of putting it on is less noticeable? Calling a quick lick of makeup a performance? Scrub that nasty muck off, girls, and get back in your place. Oh, and don't forget to avoid looking at any and all shiny surfaces on the way.

I mean, really.

I mean, seriously.

👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻 All of this!

Really don’t get the whole, “grooming, preening and primping should be done in private” or in the bloody toilets malarkey. Makes me cringe reading all this archaic trash.

AliceOlive · 13/06/2024 21:07

PeonyAndBlushSuede · 13/06/2024 20:53

👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻 All of this!

Really don’t get the whole, “grooming, preening and primping should be done in private” or in the bloody toilets malarkey. Makes me cringe reading all this archaic trash.

Being thoughtful to others and showing self restraint is never going to be archaic unless we are heading toward another dark age.

Nanny0gg · 13/06/2024 21:13

Spottttty · 13/06/2024 12:34

There's an enormous level of snobbery around make up, hair extensions, Botox, fillers and so on because it's seen as 'classy' to present as 100% natural and men expect you to be naturally beautiful 🙄

Why is snobbery?

I don't like botox or fillers. I've seen so many pretty girls spoil their looks. I don't like Turkey teeth. I don't like 'obvious' extensions.

But I have no issue with 'natural' looking fake nails coloured hair or makeup.

It's not snobbery, it's personal preference

Nanny0gg · 13/06/2024 21:15

AliceOlive · 13/06/2024 21:07

Being thoughtful to others and showing self restraint is never going to be archaic unless we are heading toward another dark age.

Sadly sounding like my mother (dead this many a year) i sometimes I think we are. For lots and lots of reasons.

But I do hate the very much 'Me' culture which is only getting worse

PeonyAndBlushSuede · 13/06/2024 21:24

AliceOlive · 13/06/2024 21:07

Being thoughtful to others and showing self restraint is never going to be archaic unless we are heading toward another dark age.

This world is such a sad place for women.

You must do makeup in private.
You must show self restraint.
You must be thoughtful to others, as in, don’t you dare look into a mirror or touch up your concealer where other people can see you.

So fucking sad.

Calliopespa · 13/06/2024 21:39

Nanny0gg · 13/06/2024 21:15

Sadly sounding like my mother (dead this many a year) i sometimes I think we are. For lots and lots of reasons.

But I do hate the very much 'Me' culture which is only getting worse

The frightening thing is they don’t even see it for what it is.

Illegally18 · 13/06/2024 21:40

Teddybear23 · 13/06/2024 20:30

I always wear makeup because I don’t think I look good without it. I have had my looks criticised a lot while I was younger. I have always thought that people who don’t wear makeup must think they look good without it so if anything they are the ones who are vain (out of the two). I think people who wear makeup don’t have a lot of confidence (like me) and it just makes us feel a bit better.

so true

Illegally18 · 13/06/2024 21:41

FlissyPaps · 13/06/2024 17:59

I love how after 32 pages of complete nonsense no one has been able to give a coherent explanation of why lipstick is totally fine to apply in public, but concealer and mascara aren’t.

Funny old world eh.

true

TriesNotToBeCynical · 13/06/2024 21:43

Calliopespa · 13/06/2024 21:39

The frightening thing is they don’t even see it for what it is.

Perhaps we should have slightly more of a "me" culture for women, and just a little less for men??

AliceOlive · 13/06/2024 21:46

PeonyAndBlushSuede · 13/06/2024 21:24

This world is such a sad place for women.

You must do makeup in private.
You must show self restraint.
You must be thoughtful to others, as in, don’t you dare look into a mirror or touch up your concealer where other people can see you.

So fucking sad.

For perspective, 4.5 billion people in the world don’t have indoor plumbing. I think the rest of us can survive popping into the loo to check our lipstick.

PeonyAndBlushSuede · 13/06/2024 21:53

AliceOlive · 13/06/2024 21:46

For perspective, 4.5 billion people in the world don’t have indoor plumbing. I think the rest of us can survive popping into the loo to check our lipstick.

For perspective, 1.49 million people in the UK are unemployed. I think the rest of us can survive if one of our colleagues takes out their compact mirror whilst sat in the canteen.

AliceOlive · 13/06/2024 21:53

I can’t stop laughing at this whole topic now. Is that really what these women thought feminism was supposed to do for them?

It reminds me of that idiot running in a race with blood running down her leg, as if she was some kind of genius. As if the hard part of being a woman is not sharing absolutely everything with absolutely everyone.

AliceOlive · 13/06/2024 21:53

PeonyAndBlushSuede · 13/06/2024 21:53

For perspective, 1.49 million people in the UK are unemployed. I think the rest of us can survive if one of our colleagues takes out their compact mirror whilst sat in the canteen.

No one said they couldn’t survive. Do whatever you like. Some will find you rude. But you don’t care about that anyway. Who cares?

Calliopespa · 13/06/2024 21:55

PeonyAndBlushSuede · 13/06/2024 21:24

This world is such a sad place for women.

You must do makeup in private.
You must show self restraint.
You must be thoughtful to others, as in, don’t you dare look into a mirror or touch up your concealer where other people can see you.

So fucking sad.

You really think that’s what’s sad in the world?

TriesNotToBeCynical · 13/06/2024 21:56

AliceOlive · 13/06/2024 21:53

I can’t stop laughing at this whole topic now. Is that really what these women thought feminism was supposed to do for them?

It reminds me of that idiot running in a race with blood running down her leg, as if she was some kind of genius. As if the hard part of being a woman is not sharing absolutely everything with absolutely everyone.

Clearly she should have been in purdah.

Illegally18 · 13/06/2024 21:57

andHelenknowsimmiserablenow · 13/06/2024 20:10

I agree, the mimicking and mocking from plain jane colleague is far far worse behaviour than touching up your make-up.

very true

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