Paula Vennells was done the other week, the Post Office Inquiry is now questioning associates and others - thread 3

[nauticant]

A continuation of this thread:

https://www.mumsnet.com/talk/am_i_being_unreasonable/5081592-paula-vennels-being-questioned-at-the-post-office-inquiry-followed-by-others-thread-2

When the hearings are going on, live-streaming can be found here:

https://www.youtube.com/@postofficehorizonitinquiry947/featured

All of the previous hearings can be found here:

https://www.youtube.com/@postofficehorizonitinquiry947/videos

Henry loves this "dam"

Audible sighs of exasperation from Mr Henry.

He is such a liar.

Of course he knew POL decided to to disclose to Seema Misra.

Does he think we are all stupid?

I missed this bit as I was making breakfast. What wasn't disclosed?

Not to disclose Gareth Jenkins was a piss poor expert witness.

GJ had given oral evidence in Seemas trial.
Henry is questioning AP if he knew about the decision not disclose to Seema about GJ, so she could appeal.
AP is claiming he didn't know anything about it.

Liar, liar, pants on fire 🔥

Sorry, should say

I think the point Mr Henry is making is whilst AP is not a criminal lawyer, he had a duty to report/flag up that other lawyers were failing in their duties for disclosure.

Because AP didn't do anything about this, he is just as culpable as everyone else and his "nowt to do wiv me guv" excuse isn't good enough.

I think.

Okay I have a Q.

Can someone tell me what everyone around whoever's asking the Qs, looking at their laptops is doing? What is their actual purpose?

I had exactly the same thought @Quirkyme

I assume either taking their own transcript. Or highlighting key pieces of information to prepare for their closing statements.
Or preparing for the next witnesses next week.
Not sure.

Many are the lawyers representing other core participants who - even if they don't have their own questions - will need to monitor the proceedings and potentially may have questions for the parties they represent.

There is also a public gallery (source of most groans)

Second Soght next week.

I for one am looking forward to hearing what they are going to share with the inquiry.

Friday could be a bit of a dark horse day: George Thomson - former General Secretary of the National Federation of Subpostmasters (NFSP).

https://www.postofficetrial.com/2019/04/common-issues-trial-judgment-nfsp.html

As a matter of policy the NFSP appears to think it is far better to throw the odd member under a bus than potentially devalue the product.

Yes @nauticant hearing from George Thomson will be interesting. We've heard a lot about him.

Alan Bates and Lee Castleton have not painted him in a great light, so it'll be interesting what his response to that will be.
I think the current NFSP have completely disowned him.

IIRC there he also made a very nasty comment about a SPMR in an email.to Paula Vennells.

No doubt, that will be brought up.

It's Gareth Jenkins the week after next. Has he still got a job btw?

This Linkedin made me laugh: https://uk.linkedin.com/in/garethjenkins

Following the King's birthday honours just announced, it's now Sir Alan Bates.

That must really annoy a good many people involved including today's prize witness.

How wonderful that the inquiry barristers can now refer to him as 'Sir Alan'.

He learned of it while Paula Vennells was giving evidence.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/c722kzgp90lo

Well deserved Sir Alan Bates.👏

what Karma to learn of it whilst PV was giving evidence.

I am so happy he has been honoured with a knighthood. Sir Alan Bates is fantastic.

I wish all the SPMR could be honoured as they are all incredibly brave and have worked so hard for the last 20 years.

As we've seen they had all the odds stacked against them.
From the investigators, to lawyers, to CEOs, PR and all the way up to Lords.
Incredible.

That's fantastic news 👏

Absolutely delighted for Sir Alan Bates. 👏👏👏👏

Yes, he said he was basically accepting it on behalf of all of Justice for Sub-Postmasters Alliance.

Typically modest!

So pleased for him and them... and what fantastic timing!

I’m loving the serendipity of Mr Gareth Jenkins and Sir Alan Bates.

The timing of the confirmations of titles feels karmic.

Yes!