This covid merry-go-round is never going to end, is it

[sixtyandsomething]

covid again, oxygen monitors again, off work again, informing all vulnerable contacts again, feeling terrible again. I have had 8 immunisations. Well, at least it isn't anything like as bad as it could be without immunisations. But this is never going to end, is it. Every year, at least 2 immunisations, and at least 2 illnesses, until the one that finishes me off , I suppose. That is without counting the disruption when someone else tests positive, instead of me.

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I was much more poorly the last time I had covid (third time) and that was after getting the initial two vaccines. So I can't say they've helped me suffer any less.

How has it stopped? How is OP meant to get off? Not everyone has the privilege of pretending covid isn't causing issues

Isn't it just😁

@Flopsythebunny, no paediatrics, but no one is wearing masks, even on the paediatric oncology ward.

If nurses aren't required to test - as mentioned upthread - there's no chance the general public will be. Seems ludicrous that nurses can still go into work and infect the most vulnerable people

It's an inaccurate opinion. Not how vaccination works.

Nobody died of COVID though. It was discovered that deaths within 30 days of a (flawed) PCR test were listed as a COVID death.

This isn't true though.
Even at the height not all deaths, following a positive covid test, were listed as linked to Covid. Some had Covid listed as additional conditions, but not the primary cause.

I had 3 close relatives die in the early days. Two had tested positive for Covid. Covid does not appear on their death certificates as it wasn't Covid that led to their deaths.

It is just certain parts of the media that insists that anyone who had Covid automatically had their death listed as a Covid death.

However, Covid did cause the deaths of some people. This isn't disputed.

”the more you artificially stimulate the immune response, it's ability to "learn" diminishes.”

This isn’t true! What a load of bunkum.

Yep

It's like my mum had Alzheimer's on her death certificate but the main cause was sepsis. She died with Alzheimer's not from it
If she had covid that would have been on there as she would have had it at her time of death but the cause was sepsis

Dying with covid vs dying of it

It's nor going to go away.

I've not taken the vaccine, and funnily enough, I'm not immunocompromised.

So what about the many thousands of people who were immunocompromised BEFORE Covid hit our shores?

And what about the thousands of people who have had/died of things like blood clots and seizures before Covid came around?

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I'm also curious - what is your scientific background which has led you to your findings that the vaccines are causing so many additional deaths and health complications? Is this your profession? What are your qualifications? Where is your peer-approved scientific research from?

Longma · Today 21:16
Nobody died of COVID though”

You are either very, very stupid or deliberately offensive,

I had it in December 2019

How do you know? It was prior to general testing for most people in the UK.

People died with COVID not from COVID

The only way to know you have COVID isn't only from a test

I was quoting a different poster.

Believe me, this is NOT my thinking at all.
I very much know that Covid was real and has caused long term health complications and deaths.

Covid won't go away. Ever. I think we've only managed to eradicate one or two illnesses over history, It's now another virus for people to deal with. Luckily for most people it is generally a relatively mild illness, like many other viruses.

Unfortunately for some people, due to their compromised immune systems, it can be much more dangerous. Due to its nature it's a little trickier to vaccinate again hence the bi-annual vaccines compared to the annual flu one for particularly vulnerable people. As time goes on hopefully things will continue to improve.

I don't understand why certain posters can't understand that.

And why does it causes them so much distress that other people are happy to take a vaccine that will hopefully reduce their likelihood of becoming much iller if they contract covid?

If they are not immunosuppressed or compromised themselves and don't have to have the vaccine (no one is forced to have it after all) - why worry about strangers who are happy to do so?

Yes. Thousands died “with” but many, many thousands of people died “from”Covid. They would still be here now.

The only way to know you have COVID isn't only from a test

So how do you know for sure then?

Or do you mean you had similar symptoms to those listed and you assume you had it, rather than actually knowing?

The tests to see if you had already had Covid wouldn't have Covid the 2019 period by the time they came out. They only officially covered approx 6 months, so unlikely to be from them.

I have spend hundreds of hours listening to eminent epidemiologists and virologists. I don't take any information whatsoever from mainstream media as they are well known to follow the same narrative of the special interests that own them,.and funnily enough, many of these TV doctors are now backtracking such as Dr Boz below 👇🏻

https://www.youtube.com/live/v3N-uFfvU5s?si=Zysc15J-OOUEr1sX

People died with COVID not from COVID

Some people did, yes.
Though this was often not mentioned at all on death certificates, like my relatives.

Some people DID die from complications brought on due to Covid. Covid was the prime reason they died. They wouldn't have died at that time, had they not contracted covid.

Again - what is your medical and/or science qualifications and credentials that means you can ascertain this?

I am aged 48, I have had a handful of instances of flu in my lifetime. I know what the symptoms are. COVID was the same except much harder on the chest, and I had the metallic taste in my mouth which was a completely new sensation from a regular flu.

I knew it was COVID after the reports in January 2020 came out and described the symptoms.

I have spend hundreds of hours listening to eminent epidemiologists and virologists

No credentials of your own then.
Online research.

I knew it was COVID after the reports in January 2020 came out and described the symptoms.

Assumption then. Which is fair enough, it may have been one of the first cases hitting the UK before it spread too far.

But it's still not fact.
And I think for someone who is very insistent that they are definitely right when it comes to vaccines and illnesses for the immunocompromised the facts can be really important.

Just trying to ascertain what aspects you consider fact and not.

Your logical reasoning is the same as saying alcoholics die due to drinking alcohol when it's actually organ failure that kills them