This covid merry-go-round is never going to end, is it

[sixtyandsomething]

covid again, oxygen monitors again, off work again, informing all vulnerable contacts again, feeling terrible again. I have had 8 immunisations. Well, at least it isn't anything like as bad as it could be without immunisations. But this is never going to end, is it. Every year, at least 2 immunisations, and at least 2 illnesses, until the one that finishes me off , I suppose. That is without counting the disruption when someone else tests positive, instead of me.

I really think COVID has made many people deeply deeply cynical about medicine and science more generally. It's probably going to be one of the greatest blows to public confidence in the scientific community we will ever see.

arguably it should be the medical community more specifically, but I don't think most people differentiate much.

And people's cynicicm bleeds out. They see the B's about masking revealed, or 6 foot distancing, or doctors saying if only they locked down harder/sooner COVID would have been really defeated, or the dismissal of the lab leak theory, or that there was dishonesty about how well the vaccine was likely to work, or whether young people should get it, etc. And at that point, they can say all kinds of true things and people won't believe it.

What's more, they tend to think the authorities knew it was all bunk all along, and so look for ulterior motives for their actions. Which in some cases can stray into weird territory.

No they're not delusional. My honest answer is COVID is a bio weapon that has been engineered to do damage on its own, but it's effect is far worse on immunocompromised people that have been weakening their systems for decades through various factors:

1. Lifestyle habits (lack of sun, lack of regular exercise, alcohol, food choices)
2. Repeated vaccinations of all types
3. Excessive use of antibiotics

It's the totality of all these things that mean COVID can be devastating for one person, but for someone else appears as a cold or flu and only last a few days then dissipates.

Once you're in the grip of big pharma, it's almost impossible get out. They want lifetime customers, and they use point 1 above to "on ramp" people. They work in conjunction with big food Inc to get you as unfit as possible, keep you inside, and eventually you'll fall.into their grip permanently. That's why GP:s only prescribe nowadays, they never give homeopathic advice like they did in the past. They are following orders.

If you're honest, you'll know the above is true.

I think you're right about trust. It was already very fragile due to over prescribing for the most basic things.

"I feel really tired and lethargic doctor"

"Here are some SSRIs to fix that"

"Thank you doctor"

"Next!"

But the COVID response has made so many very angry and people feel betrayed to the point they may never trust them again. That in itself could cause massive health problems if people don't go to health services for advice ever again. There's also the mental health aspect of people feeling betrayed by a system that was supposed to be a central plank of our society and has been sold as such for decades

"Save the NHS"
Tiktok nurses

People now feel severely gaslit by the above and it may take years to repair the damage, possibly never.

I don’t think any of that in any way whatsoever.

I'm not immunocompromised because I've been weakening my system
I don't drink, and I exercise regularly
I'm immunocompromised because I have an autoimmune condition that mostly babies and children have. Some are diagnosed at weeks old with it

There are many many people in a state of Stockholm syndrome over the way they've been treated, sadly some aren't even aware of it themselves.

Nobody is shutting down anybody, but surely if you post a video with only a vague description, you can not be surprised if people ask you why it is relevant.

Oc. Yes I’m deluded enough to have Stockholm Syndrome😂

Wtf?😂😂😂😂😂

Being deluded and Stockholm syndrome are two very different things.

l do not have Stockholm syndrome . I just don’t.

I know absolutely no one who thinks like you. We all supported lockdown, don’t think we were being ‘gaslighted’ and think the nhs are great.

That's absolutely fine, and good luck to you. I'm sure your health will get better asap 👍🏻

Unpalatable but true, and I say that as someone who isn't remotely antivax. It's quite clear that on a population level, the experience of the pandemic and the policy responses to it have done a number on public trust. Not all members of the public, but enough members of the public.

It's a truth so dark and uncomfortable some people just simply can't accept it, and will attack anyone drawing attention to it.

You’re so utterly ignorant and offensive to immunocompromised people. You have zero medical knowledge and you have no idea why people are immunosuppressed or immunocompromised.

Thanks for contributing and keeping the thread going, have a great day 👍🏻

This isn’t your thread, so an odd comment.

I am here to support people like the OP and people like me. We should not be blamed for health problems beyond our control. Being born with a genetic condition has nothing to do with choice of diet. However, you can choose to attack unwell people. That is something one could change.
You have the day you deserve. 👍🏻

I never said it was my thread, and also, I think it's great that you are supporting OP, that's exactly what we all should be doing, supporting each other, well done 👍🏻

Well I think the government did a shit job, definitely do not have Stockholm syndrome, but do have long covid. I think the government continue to do a shit job.

I'm annoyed that rather than acknowledge it was airborne, rather than acknowledge the likelihood and existing evidence of longer term harms, rather than educate people, rather than put in some unobtrusive measures in schools after the first lockdown, we have gone down this absolute shitshow of a road.

Vulnerable people are effectively told to go screw themselves, kids are told their health and education are meaningless and the numbers of long term sick are rising dramatically.

In the meantime, some theories that defy any modicum of sanity are being spawned by people who seem incapable of the teeniest amount of empathy.

I am immunocompromised because I have cancer. Inherited cancer. I run marathons, and took antibiotics once in the first 60 years of my life. Ignore anyone saying you are responsible for your health problems they are just very very ignorant - and likely to find themselves on the wrong side of their ignorance one day. and it will be a very long meal, trying to eat so many of their own words

You just have to ignore this poster, just let your eyes slide over any words under that name, you know there will be nothing there with any link to the real world, or any contribution worth the energy it would take to read it

Genuine question please! no jokes about "man flu"

How does this virus distinguish between men and women?

men and women are different physiologically, lots of illness affect them differently

Yep. For example, women much more likely to get and sustain long term auto immune illnesses such as CFS.

Biologists think it may be because (ironically) mother nature endowed women/girls with extra excellent immune systems to help us survive but this strategy can backfire.

Theory is that this is because the survival of women is crucial for nature in terms of species reproduction and survival. You can technically do with fewer men/sperm providers but you do need plenty of women bearing babies.

Disclaimer: I am not a scientist. Theory is just a theory as far as I know.