This covid merry-go-round is never going to end, is it

[sixtyandsomething]

covid again, oxygen monitors again, off work again, informing all vulnerable contacts again, feeling terrible again. I have had 8 immunisations. Well, at least it isn't anything like as bad as it could be without immunisations. But this is never going to end, is it. Every year, at least 2 immunisations, and at least 2 illnesses, until the one that finishes me off , I suppose. That is without counting the disruption when someone else tests positive, instead of me.

Cannot believe some of the responses on this thread. I'm with you Op, it's shit.

Covid is mostly definitely not over. Dp works in a local hospital, more and more cases coming in, wards closed off, full protection on to shift patients, but this mustn't get out, they've been told. They are expecting are larger wave over the summer.

I've had it 9 times and this time has been the worst. Oxygen levels really low, severe chest pain and all the rest. And agree Op, people don't realise it only takes one time to bring on long covid, it destroys you. My heart is now in trouble being infected so many times, I'm 48 and blood group A, which has being proven that covid prefers blood group A as it attaches easier to this blood cell type.

That sounds really hard, I'm so sorry 🩷

That means absolutely nothing like what you think it does.

I didn’t know that! I’m A - that answers questions

@qpid5tunt that is literally the opposite of what the booster shots and vaccinations general do. The entire point of any vaccination is to strengthen the immune system by introducing stimuli that results in the body building antibodies against that virus. So that if you encounter the real virus, you have a kind of army reserve of antibodies ready to fight immediately.

Think of it like starting a physical training program before entering a race or competition. You will be stronger in the competition if you expose your body to the situation ahead of time than if you just waited on the sofa.

@Aussieland thats not correct. It absolutely reduces the chances of catching Covid. It’s not 100% effective, but people with up to date boosters are absolutely at lower risk of catching Covid,

"but I really don't think there is anything you can add to this thread"

I'll be the judge of that thank you.

Initially yes, but as somebody said earlier in the thread, the more you artificially stimulate the immune response, it's ability to "learn" diminishes.

I like the analogy you used about physical training, so I'll add to that. If you only train for one specific sports event (COVID 19 in this example) then you're body is only primed for that specific event and nothing else, whereas natural immunity is continually learning and evolving by dealing with all and any threats the body is exposed to.

This one isn't a normal vaccine though, is it? I haven't had one. Not anti Vax but I've been since sick twice since 2019. Both times nothing a bit of honey and sleep didn't fix in days. This vaccine isn't working as it should be. How are so many vaccinated from covid getting sick so often?

Unfortunately for the physically vulnerable folk we do have mental health to think about - another few seasons of lockdown would have put further pressures on child development, education, DV, social problems and dare I say the economy.
Perhaps if more of us would wear masks, avoid crowds and social distance when we are slightly unwell it would help but service providers, employers, venues etc will not give refunds or pay wages for COVID any more.
How many swifties (substitute any other performers) would miss a concert if they tested positive but felt reasonably well

You’re putting your trust in this vaccine assuming it’s helping. Maybe it’s the culprit.

It was OP themselves that said they were immunocompromised due to chemotherapy not me. And also that they were fit and healthy prior to 2020. No medical degree required to read.

So you were just "lucky" like I was then?

Most of us that didn't have it are very lucky? Not just me.

Because in order to be eligible for the vaccine to have to be more at risk, which includes a lot of people with weakened immune systems. they are less likely to be seriously unwell from covid because they’ve had the vaccine, but more likely to be ill than a person in full health is.

And for bonus fun, each time a healthy person gets covid they have a chance of moving to the more at risk category.

I can only take it as read!

But if you're immunocompromised you can't get natural immunity
My body can't fight off any bacterial infection because I don't have the blood cells to do it, so I'm much higher risk for a side of pneumonia and also neutropenic sepsis

Suppose we ignore all the people who got ill, died, hospitalised, have long term issues before a vaccine was even available to them or who didn't take it once it became available for whatever reason.

Suppose that since that time - only focussing on those who have been vaccinated and ignoring all others - that people who had one vaccine several years ago or people that have had every vaccine going since - are getting disproportionately battered by covid. What's the answer to that?

Well said

@StarbucksQueen1 she’s had chemo. Chemo suppresses the immune system, so it’s not rocket science, or even high school science to see why she gets sick more often. It’s not new information…OP perfectly fits the definition of an immunocompromised person, the very example of the type of vulnerable people we were supposed to be trying to protect. We were told from the get go that people who were immunocompromised from things like chemo were 1) more likely to get sick if exposed and 2) more likely to get seriously ill or die if they got sick.

There is a large group of people who are also eligible for COVID boosters who are not immunocompromised or vulnerable (ie frail, elderly, otherwise unwell).
These are NHS and care staff - their immune systems will be the same as the unboostered population - and the vaccine should work as intended and perhaps not have the same side effects as claimed that those with weak immune systems have.
Does anyone have any data comparing the two groups?

The covid merry-go-round has definitely stopped. The problem is you don't want to get off!

You immune system is still doing its regular learning though. Its a multitasker. Getting vaccinated is like your immune system doing a side hustle.

Tell me what happens to your 9-5 productivity when you have to put more and more effort into a failing side hustle?

“Why is education around covid so poor?”

Partly because of the numerous threads like this that pop up from time to time, so much misinformation and people sadly very lacking in an ability to think critically and for themselves. Unable, simply unwilling to believe they’ve been lied to.

Plus there’s no arguing with stupid. Go on report me, I don’t care if this gets deleted.