This covid merry-go-round is never going to end, is it

[sixtyandsomething]

covid again, oxygen monitors again, off work again, informing all vulnerable contacts again, feeling terrible again. I have had 8 immunisations. Well, at least it isn't anything like as bad as it could be without immunisations. But this is never going to end, is it. Every year, at least 2 immunisations, and at least 2 illnesses, until the one that finishes me off , I suppose. That is without counting the disruption when someone else tests positive, instead of me.

Well yes but that clearly had very particular circumstances - the previous allergic reactions

So if someone doesn't have allergy it's ok to bully them. Is that what you're saying with your "yes but no" statement?

Elderly friends, a couple in the States, have just caught Covid for the first time after the woman, 68, flew to another state for a wedding and came home already coughing and sneezing to the man, 89 and frail. On her first day back, coughing and sneezing, she invited neighbour couple over for lunch, which she cooked and served herself. They noticed her coughing and asked if she'd tested for Covid; she said 'No, why are you always so negative?' The neighbours - one has serious COPD - are now also ill. Elderly couple finally tested themselves, got antiviral meds and are doing all right so far. Two days in, still coughing, the woman rang the neighbours' son to ask him to come over and help her with something. He said, but don't you have Covid? She replied, sure, but it's mild so you won't mind.

The extraordinary thing about all of this is that hardly anyone still finds such behaviour extraordinary. Making an effort not to give scary viruses to vulnerable people is apparently, like, so 2021 - so, as a vulnerable person myself, I find it continues to be necessary to take precautions. No judgment on anyone who makes any decision for themselves personally - it's your body etc - but to make that decision for others, especially others you know to be vulnerable, still seems bizarre and I just can't get my head around it.

'to make that decision for others, especially others you know to be vulnerable, still seems bizarre and I just can't get my head around it.'

Yep

The deliberate withholding of choice for something that has had and continues to have a devastating impact on so many lives.

She won the tribunal because due to her chronic health condition she was put at a disadvantage compared with her colleagues.

In due time, all who were coerced and manipulated into taking a medical procedure they didn't will win. Or their families. It all comes out in the end. Anyone that has had atraZenica and had any clots of heart issues should start into seeking legal procedures now! It will all come out. Seek Dr. Aseem Maltoura a cardiologists advice. It has already begun.

The case was centred around her being bullied for not having it. Nothing to do with allergy. If people had just respected her decision for not having it regardless of any justification, there would be no case at all.

Obviously bullies don't like a light being shone on their behaviour.

The case wasn't "centred" around her being labeled an anti vaxxer. That was just one example of how she was treated negatively and unfairly because of her disability/chronic health condition. The tribunal accepted that her allergies counted as a disability under the equality act.

Exactly.

But I don't think "rational" "mum" wants to let the facts get in the way of a good story

I see what you're doing here. You're attempting to play down the bullying, I suspect because you yourself regularly use the slur "anti-vaxxer". It's a common tactic used in identity politics to shut down debate or unwelcome opinions. This women was clearly made so miserable by it that she filed a lawsuit against it.

Yeah he sounds like someone I want to get advice from

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Aseem_Malhotra

I'm not attempting to play down anything. I am just giving the facts which are that she sued under the equality act. She could only do that because her refusal of the vaccine and face masks was due to her allergies.

You don't know how vaccines work do you

https://www.thecourier.co.uk/fp/news/dundee/5008016/nhs-tayside-anti-vaxxer-discrimination-case/

People wernt bothered about allergies. at the time. There were plenty of "there is no excuse not to wear a mask" threads on here and "everyone should wear one" I can easily find them

I’ve had Covid twice.

The second time I got severe long Covid. A year later I’m still in a wheelchair and too exhausted to do anything.

Just had community occupational therapy round to organise a bath lift. (I’m too exhausted to sit or stand in a shower)

It’s totally destroyed my life.

The Workd Ecomonic Forum issued a warning about long covid affecting productivity.

3m sick with it in UK.

Covid leaves its spectre behind in 3 m people. Your chances of it increase after every infection.

Whats the exponential rise of long COVID? 3m is a lot of people. Are we just going to let infections repeatedly happen until 5 or 10m have got it? 3m in 3 1/2 years.

@ArseInTheCoOpWindow I hear you. I have has CFS since 2013. I have had covid twice, and each time I have been so ill I have been signed off work for 3 months at a time. e.g. Cannot sit upright in bed for 10 minutes per day, cannot walk to the end of the road.

So far, I appear to have recovered to my usual (50% of other people) standard of health. But honestly? It worries me, as I am already functionally impaired and can only work p-time and have 1 social visit per week. I have to self-limit and pace to protect what function I have left. It's a half-life, but I have to accept it.

Most people around me are considerate and will let me know if they are testing + for Covid or suspect they have it (DS has SEND and his school transport staff let me know - however their manager said to them just crack on, we made other arrangements for 2 weeks).

A long standing friend of mine who had recovered from CFS got Covid and now has long Covid. It has cost him his job. He was really fit and active before - walking 6 to 8 miles regularly. Now he has to step count and not go over a certain amount each day, as medical advice from long Covid clinic.

Covid is like an ice berg, there's a lot going on that many people are oblivious to. Lucky them. For the rest of us, it's the worst merry go round ever. Despite the fact we would love to get off, we can't.

I wonder about some people being able to fight it off or not get it - DH has lived in a small flat with me and DS having Covid x 2 and he never got it.

Could be a useful line of enquiry.

I've just gone back to work after being off with COVID again - I'm CEV and I've had all the boosters but it still knocks me out. Funnily enough apart from a couple of mild colds, COVID is the only infection I've had in the last 2 years.
I work with the public including school groups - I love my job, I don't want to leave but I'm feeling I can't keep repeating this cycle. I'm also a widow and my daughter is absolutely terrified something is going to happen to me too. I just don't know what to do for the best. I'm really angry that I have my illness - it's already taken so much of me I don't want it to have my job too.
Sixtyandsomething - I am glad you are feeling better and hope you continue to improve - look after yourself

Exactly.

And the number of LC cases will keep rising. Until someone somewhere thinks something has to change.

It reminds me of the Great Stink that drove the introduction of sewage systems. It’s a public health issue that hasn’t been tackled and and is ignored.

But as more fall into LC ( and they will) something will have to happen.

Thr country has no money. How or 5 or 6 million disabled going to help that?

A trend I've noticed in this thread is the people on the pro vaccine side are quick to dish out judgement and slurs instead of engaging in any kind of rational discord or debate,.in much the same way I expect as the women in their respective work places were also treated leading to their subsequent lawsuits that have been posted above.

Please listen to Dr David Cartland currently working in the NHS in England and what he has to say about the NHS working environment below which he recorded this morning, in the NHS hospital where he works 👇🏻

x.com/Andy66202501/status/1803466969569456359?t=mCNdBGKWGYE4MeO7zL5rqw&s=19

What is the relevance to this thread?

Did you watch it?