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This covid merry-go-round is never going to end, is it

548 replies

sixtyandsomething · 09/06/2024 20:39

covid again, oxygen monitors again, off work again, informing all vulnerable contacts again, feeling terrible again. I have had 8 immunisations. Well, at least it isn't anything like as bad as it could be without immunisations. But this is never going to end, is it. Every year, at least 2 immunisations, and at least 2 illnesses, until the one that finishes me off , I suppose. That is without counting the disruption when someone else tests positive, instead of me.

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Rationalmum · 18/06/2024 18:14

Coffeeinsunshine · 18/06/2024 17:46

They haven't rebranded covid as the flu. They both exist. wtf?
Some people have taken it upon themselves to rebrand covid as a cold (only covid, not other illnesses that can initially present like a cold).

It's there in black and white government statistics

Some folk just don't want to accept it

Something to do with cognitive dissonance

CassandraWebb · 18/06/2024 18:18

Coffeeinsunshine · 18/06/2024 17:56

Some people inform others they've been in contact with if they have come down with an illness. It can be anything from covid to chickenpox to 'don't eat x/y/z, it's been recalled'. It gives those other people a choice on what action to take/a warning.

Exactly. Same with giving people a heads up before coming into contact with them if they are contagious (whether a cold or worse). It seems like a basic etiquette to me. I wouldn't show up at a friend's house with a cold without checking they were ok never mind something worse

wombat15 · 18/06/2024 18:34

Rationalmum · 18/06/2024 17:31

No. It's because they've rebranded the flu as COVID

That's why flu cases disappeared during COVID

Flu disappeared during lockdown because the measures to reduce the spread of covid were even more effective against flu. This is because flu is not as contagious as covid.

Coffeeinsunshine · 18/06/2024 18:37

@Rationalmum govt data shows covid separately to flu and pneumonia which are linked together. If anything, some covid will be in the flu figures if someone's covid has led to pneumonia.

@CassandraWebb agree.

sixtyandsomething · 18/06/2024 18:39

Rationalmum · 18/06/2024 17:31

No. It's because they've rebranded the flu as COVID

That's why flu cases disappeared during COVID

flu cases disappeared during covid because of lockdown, and you can't rebrand flu as covid, the flu test picks up flu, and the covid test picks up covid, they are separate viruse

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Rationalmum · 18/06/2024 18:43

wombat15 · 18/06/2024 18:34

Flu disappeared during lockdown because the measures to reduce the spread of covid were even more effective against flu. This is because flu is not as contagious as covid.

That is patently absurd, no offence.

sixtyandsomething · 18/06/2024 18:45

O dear. Back to screening out posts from the ridiculously, determinedly, wilfully ignorant.

carry on posting, I'll just carry on ignoring

some contributions are not worth the amount of glucose it uses up to run your eyes over their words

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Rationalmum · 18/06/2024 18:49

sixtyandsomething · 18/06/2024 18:39

flu cases disappeared during covid because of lockdown, and you can't rebrand flu as covid, the flu test picks up flu, and the covid test picks up covid, they are separate viruse

And yet they share the same symptoms

This covid merry-go-round is never going to end, is it
Riversideandrelax · 18/06/2024 18:54

greengreyblue · 09/06/2024 20:49

I work in primary. There have been so many cold like viruses going around this last 6 weeks. But nobody is testing obviously. Must be awful for you OP but it’s in the past for everyone else. Hope you get well soon.

I've unfortunately come across this attitude at school. It certainly is not in the past for everyone else! A ridiculous statement!

So many DC have been affected by Long Covid and it is still affecting many now. My Dd's Primary didn't want to know. She has been waiting for the LC clinic for over 2 years. We've had no support whatsoever.

Lucky you that it isn't affecting you, but your I'm alright Jack attitude is awful.

HappierTimesAhead · 18/06/2024 19:52

Rationalmum · 18/06/2024 17:31

No. It's because they've rebranded the flu as COVID

That's why flu cases disappeared during COVID

I'm rebranding you IrrationalMum

Seriously though, we are all entitled to our different views but some of what you have espoused on this thread is incredibly offensive to disabled people and people with chronic health conditions.

Rationalmum · 18/06/2024 19:55

HappierTimesAhead · 18/06/2024 19:52

I'm rebranding you IrrationalMum

Seriously though, we are all entitled to our different views but some of what you have espoused on this thread is incredibly offensive to disabled people and people with chronic health conditions.

You're equally entitled to your opinion

Coffeeinsunshine · 18/06/2024 20:16

@AIfunguy I think Covid has just highlighted how vulnerable CEV patients are.

Yes, I think it has.
I hate the amount of othering that has gone on in recent years by some, or maybe I wasn't as aware of it before the pandemic. Some seem to see 'disposable' instead of 'vulnerable' which is awful.

Coffeeinsunshine · 18/06/2024 20:19

@Riversideandrelax I'm sorry about your DD

Tryonemoretime · 18/06/2024 20:38

Rationalmum · 18/06/2024 17:31

No. It's because they've rebranded the flu as COVID

That's why flu cases disappeared during COVID

As i understand it, flu disappeared during Covid because people were isolating / wearing masks etc. And washing hands and not cramming themselves into public transport also prevented the spread of flu. You only have to travel on the tube during rush hour to see the number of people who are now coughing and spluttering over everyone as if flu and Covid have disappeared. Standards of hygiene have collapsed again.

Fluffyhoglets · 18/06/2024 21:03

I've got it the second time after attending a large scale outdoor event. I test whenever I get cold symptoms as I don't want to risk killing my parents with it. The particularly clinically vulnerable parent was very ill last and only time they had it and I think it triggered a new health complication which now makes them even more vulnerable.
It's clearly much more contagious than flu and normal colds.
It will never be over and as we get older I worry each infection will have a worse impact.

wombat15 · 18/06/2024 21:05

Rationalmum · 18/06/2024 18:49

And yet they share the same symptoms

They don't share all the same symptoms at all.

Flopsythebunny · 18/06/2024 21:35

TempestTost · 18/06/2024 17:37

I'm not sure what your point is. If people want things that will entitle them to medications etc, why would they think they are going to get to stop testing?

And I am not sure that's the OPs situation anyway as she would not need to be informing contacts to get antivirals.

I'm just not understanding what the OPs expectation is here.

The cev won't be able to stop testing unless they choose to chance going through covid without the antiviral medication. For someone with certain blood cancers its very risky

Flopsythebunny · 18/06/2024 21:38

Rationalmum · 18/06/2024 18:49

And yet they share the same symptoms

The symptoms of covid and flu may be similar, but the effects on the vascular system and internal organs due to covid are vastly different

Tryonemoretime · 18/06/2024 21:55

@Riversideandrelax
I'm so sorry about your daughter. It's outrageous that she's having to wait so long for help from the Long Covid clinic. I have LC, too, but where I live I didn't have to wait too long before support kicked in. Do you know anyone else with LC? DM me if you think I could help in any way.

TempestTost · 18/06/2024 22:36

Flopsythebunny · 18/06/2024 21:35

The cev won't be able to stop testing unless they choose to chance going through covid without the antiviral medication. For someone with certain blood cancers its very risky

I don't think you are getting my point at all, and I'm not sure what your comment really has to do with the OP either.

Yes, if a person has blood cancer, and is vulnerable to illnesses, dealing with common viruses is a bit shit and must seem neverending.

Flopsythebunny · 18/06/2024 23:01

TempestTost · 18/06/2024 22:36

I don't think you are getting my point at all, and I'm not sure what your comment really has to do with the OP either.

Yes, if a person has blood cancer, and is vulnerable to illnesses, dealing with common viruses is a bit shit and must seem neverending.

I don't think that you quite get it.
Most viruses don't affect the body in the way that covid does

TempestTost · 19/06/2024 00:45

Flopsythebunny · 18/06/2024 23:01

I don't think that you quite get it.
Most viruses don't affect the body in the way that covid does

Viruses impact the body in lots of different ways. COVID is by no means the worst.

sixtyandsomething · 19/06/2024 07:22

TempestTost · 19/06/2024 00:45

Viruses impact the body in lots of different ways. COVID is by no means the worst.

Obviously covid is not the worst virus to have. I am very glad to have covid not rabies., for example. But I am not very likely to get rabies.

In terms of time off work in the last 2 years, covid has been the worst for me.

In terms of level of illness covid is the worst for me

In terms of length of incapacity covid is the worst for me

In terms of ongoing issues once I have recovered from the infection covid is the worst for me

In terms of number of friends and relatives dead in the last 4 years covid is the worst for me

In terms of fear and guilt of passing it on covid is the worst for me

In terms of disruption dues to colleagues being off sick covid is the worst for me.

In terms of fears of what is most likely to end my life in the next few years covid is the worst for me

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Rationalmum · 19/06/2024 08:02

NHS medic wins discrimination case for being branded "anti-vaxxer" by colleagues.

This covid merry-go-round is never going to end, is it
wombat15 · 19/06/2024 10:28

sixtyandsomething · 19/06/2024 07:22

Obviously covid is not the worst virus to have. I am very glad to have covid not rabies., for example. But I am not very likely to get rabies.

In terms of time off work in the last 2 years, covid has been the worst for me.

In terms of level of illness covid is the worst for me

In terms of length of incapacity covid is the worst for me

In terms of ongoing issues once I have recovered from the infection covid is the worst for me

In terms of number of friends and relatives dead in the last 4 years covid is the worst for me

In terms of fear and guilt of passing it on covid is the worst for me

In terms of disruption dues to colleagues being off sick covid is the worst for me.

In terms of fears of what is most likely to end my life in the next few years covid is the worst for me

Yes, people like to use the fact that there are other viruses to dismiss the impact of covid on the CEV but it's just not the same. In the last four years I have only had covid and no other virus. Nothing else is as infectious and prevalent and therefore almost impossible to avoid.