This covid merry-go-round is never going to end, is it

[sixtyandsomething]

covid again, oxygen monitors again, off work again, informing all vulnerable contacts again, feeling terrible again. I have had 8 immunisations. Well, at least it isn't anything like as bad as it could be without immunisations. But this is never going to end, is it. Every year, at least 2 immunisations, and at least 2 illnesses, until the one that finishes me off , I suppose. That is without counting the disruption when someone else tests positive, instead of me.

Well, I hope you don't impose this rubbish on your children

I was involved in a court case once where two children were removed by social services after using "traditional remedies" had killed their 9 year old sister. She wasn't even seriously ill, she just had a cold, it was the herbal tea that killed her.

I don't suppose you do know if or when you have flu, as you would need a conventional test to find out, and you don't use conventional medicine.

So once again. I'll ask the question.

WHY as someone who has NEVER taken the flu jab, have I only had the flu a handful or less times in my 48 years? I barely get the cold! Possibly once every year and it's very minimal, perhaps a 2 day thing.

Why as an unvaxxed person am I avoiding all this sickness that is all around me, whilst being a parent with school age children?

I'm sorry, but it can't be explained away with luck. Especially when I see people I know who've taken the vaccines losing feeling in their arms, getting heart failure, getting cancer at very young fit and healthy age.

Was this in the UK?

Quite a few posters on here sound like the "uncle Albert smoked 50 a day and he lived until he was ninety" and "auntie Mabel drank half a bottle of gin a day and she has just had her telegram from the queen". Just proves that we are all different.
As over 90% of the UK population over 18 have been vaccinated - probably higher in the older and more vulnerable groups anyone who gets diagnosed with a serious illness eg cancer, heart disease etc is statistically likely to have been vaccinated.
As for so called "turbo" cancers these have always existed - because of screening and awareness and better treatments (not necessarily cures a bit like we can treat type 1 diabetes but cannot cure it) many people find they will live with cancer for a few years unlike the couple of months of old and then occasionally there is someone who feels ill and dies soon after a cancer diagnosis.

Genetics, lifestyle, selective bias, subjectivity of self reporting to name a few.

If you know this many people affected like that, you really ought to be officially reporting it to someone who knows what they’re doing and can research it properly, not just watching quacks on social media where there are absolutely no safeguards or standards for what people say and basing your opinions on the chat function on there.

Seriously, go and study properly, do a degree / MSc / PhD where you can learn to be a critical thinking consumer of information. Maybe you’re right about some of this stuff but the fact that you can’t even interpret a graph properly suggests that if you are it’s more by luck than being properly informed.

Some of the most eminent professors of virology and epidemiology have been smeared as liars and conspiracy theorists

Robert Malone
Geert Van Den Bosche
Delores Cahill

So what is the use trying to get "properly informed" as you so arrogantly put it, when as soon as you go against the government or mainstream narritive, you get slandered as a nutcase or trouble maker?

The level of ignorance expressed by some on this thread is frightening. Such stupidity and yet they can vote.

I mean I've had the flu vaccine every single year and had flu once so..
I don't have heart issues, cancer or loss of feeling in my arms after the vaccines

@Katemax82 That's not how immunisations work! 🤣🤣🤣🤦‍♀️

I've never had Covid. I do have a chronic illness that will be with me for the rest of my life (but doesn't make me clinically vulnerable) yet I've never once had Covid. Yet some people have had it multiple times. So odd.

I also have only had one cold in 13 years 🤨

Perhaps look into how vaccines and the immune system work before posting uneducated opinions on a public forum?

What a condescending remark.
She's only shooting the shit in a public forum, posting on chat forums is different to submitting a doctoral thesis, you see.
This attitude - all over society - is what's causing the push back. Well done.

Also highly interesting

And do you take all the vaccines going?

I'm not sure thats the flex you think it is.

2 cold a year is a lot, and I've never had the flu either but I am younger than you.

This theead seems to have upset you a lot, why don't you go and get some fresh air and stop spewing absolute shite you clearly know nothing about

I work in a hospital and consultants who are positive can still practice if they feel well! So clearly the massive drama about it years ago isn’t such a thing now.

StarbucksQueen1
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work in a hospital and consultants who are positive can still practice if they feel well”

I hope they inform their vulnerable patients prior to their appointments.

The receptionist in our local GP surgery was in work with Covid last week (at the insistence of the doctors - I know her family).

@Rationalmum

I am sure the open university does sone basic maths and statistics courses

Something like 20% of the population have never ( knowingly) had covid

Far more people Have never had covid than have never had the vaccine

How do you explain that ?

I hope you never get a serious disease that requires medical treatment immediately.
”No don’t follow those government guidelines to give antibiotics and intubate me for respiratory failure due to septic shock. I am not a sheep!”

it can happen to anyone.

Yeah one day I was 33, and fine
The next I'm getting a phone call at night that my bloods are deranged and to go straight to haematology

Saying a vaccine weakens the immune system is ridiculous and deserves derision. If you think it’s ok then I will say “I think the sky is actually green.” It’s my opinion and based on my own perception of colour so you should consider it!

Saying you have personal reservations is another matter and perfectly fine and normal. Someone who is immunocompromised doesn’t need a randomer on the internet to give unsolicited dangerous medical advice.

Health is very fragile. There are some very judgmental people on here who have no idea. I bet they wouldn’t be ripping out cannulas and going home if they actually had to face serious illness. Obviously I would never wish it upon anyone but it can happen to anyone and at anytime. I wouldn’t be so smug if I was them!

Wow. Who'd have thought infection control or reducing risk to staff and patients in healthcare settings would be too revolutionary an idea? It's certainly not people like the OP keeping this merry-go-round up.

She questioned it, not stated it.

Nobody should be taking medical advice of randomers off the Internet, thats on them. But chat forums are for chatting. 'Oh I wonder if xyz could happen....'

Unclench about someone on the internet being wrong, fgs!

I dont know if this will help anyone, it is a meta data presentation by impartial objective statistics publisher, and shows quite clearly that without vaccine you are 5-10 times more likely to die from covid. Even as time progresses, you are still far more likely to die without the vaccine, although you do start to benefit from the herd immunity as so many other people around you are vaccinated. It only goes up to August 2023, but there are lots of other sources that show similar. It covers many countries, many age groups, and millions of data pieces. I dont really expect the conspiracy theorists to be swayed by actual data though....

https://ourworldindata.org/covid-deaths-by-vaccination